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  • C [email protected]

    I'm saying that people who have grown up in the world of smartphones and apps are used to files just going into the ether and the app knowing where it is, and they never learned how to navigate a file system.

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    I know what you were saying.

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      I miss when computers did what you wanted them to do and not what the corporation wants you to do.

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        It used to be so much simpler. I remember having a Galaxy S3 and whenever I saved a file I knew exactly where it went. There was a file explorer built in, and downloads went to the downloads folder.

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        Is that not how it still works? When I download a file, it either goes straight to the Downloads folder, or to an app-specific subfolder within Downloads. And there's a Files app that lets you go through the file system (although I'm sure there are some system folders that aren't accessible without rooting). I don't think I've ever been confused about where a file is saved.

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        • K [email protected]

          I suppose those are the same people who make a full screen screenshot in order to share a picture.

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          No, they're taking a picture of the screen with their phone.

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          • W [email protected]

            Like I said, it obviously can only track files installed by the package, if the conf was generated by the executable after, or if you created it, the package system cannot know about it.

            Also, you're still using -S wrong. It takes a file path as argument, not a package name. And does the opposite of -L by showing you which installed package, if any, owns an existing file.

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            And like I said

            this command didn't really do what I wanted it to do then

            I just want to do something like find {package name} | grep "config.conf" or something like that. I normally know what the program is called, I just don't know where it is located.

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              I'm pretty sure this is google chrome issue. When I use Samsung Internet, I can choose the download location

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                i wrote a whole comment but deleted it this comment explains better https://programming.dev/comment/17202550

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                  It's almost as if this is a computer architecture designed for idiots who don't know or care what a file is or for what purposes their data is being harvested. Everywhere I hear people falling over themselves to declare that the tablet smartphone was apple's golden gift to the world. Try to do any serious work on one, it's fucking annoying.

                  Whenever we make technology accessible to stupid people it becomes irritating to use and a privacy nightmare.

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                  It’s almost as if this is a computer architecture designed for idiots human beings who don’t know or care what a file is interact with computers on a non-file oriented basis or have been lied to and systemically unsupported in their education for what purposes their data is being harvested.

                  No hate. No useful conversation starts with calling large swaths of people idiots, is all.

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                    File manager > Recent files

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                      I really lost my shit when Firefox downloaded some Belfort & Lupin subtitles and I could not for the fucking live of me find them.

                      Turns out it put them in the "Movies" folder instead of "Downloads" where it actually put the corresponding video files.

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                      • flatplutosociety@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

                        Is that not how it still works? When I download a file, it either goes straight to the Downloads folder, or to an app-specific subfolder within Downloads. And there's a Files app that lets you go through the file system (although I'm sure there are some system folders that aren't accessible without rooting). I don't think I've ever been confused about where a file is saved.

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                        cc @[email protected]

                        i think there’s lots of different flavors of android or something, such that different phones handle the user-facing file system totally differently. it might also be that nicer phones the devs put more effort into making UX have a more forgiving learning curve but because android isn’t truly open source those developments are inaccessible to other users

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                        • noxypaws@pawb.socialN [email protected]

                          I really lost my shit when Firefox downloaded some Belfort & Lupin subtitles and I could not for the fucking live of me find them.

                          Turns out it put them in the "Movies" folder instead of "Downloads" where it actually put the corresponding video files.

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                          sounds like your pitiful mind cant understand the unix file oriented philosophy and you should stay 10 feet away from all information technology /sarcasm

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                            sounds like your pitiful mind cant understand the unix file oriented philosophy and you should stay 10 feet away from all information technology /sarcasm

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                            Technology and sarcasm?!?!

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                              File manager > Recent files

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                              Recent files > move file where you want itfrom there

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                                Technology and sarcasm?!?!

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                                I've got a bad feeling this might catch on…

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                                  File manager > Recent files

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                                  Mes fichiers » fichiers récent

                                  For any francos looking for this application.

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                                    I'm pretty sure this is google chrome issue. When I use Samsung Internet, I can choose the download location

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                                    Not a fan of google products, but I can't fathom using the phone's stock browser. Is it … good?

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                                      Is this your first file system? It literally does sort it into "videos" if I have a video or "images" if it's an image. What do you crack heads want it to do?

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                                      Tell me you don't understand what you're talking about without saying you don't understand what you're talking about.

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                                        I've got a bad feeling this might catch on…

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                                        Luckily, we technology enthusiasts are all special snowflakes and don't engage in anything as banal as copying other people.

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                                        • buboscandiacus@mander.xyzB [email protected]

                                          and you turn off gestures

                                          Yeah, gestures are horrible

                                          assuming we are only looking at current popular smartphone OS's

                                          I was speaking of every interface to navigate a computer for general use. What would you consider to be the best in that regard ?

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                                          For me its probably KDE, its not my favorate but its what I recommend for people to use. That being said I grew up with desktop computers, but both Android and IOS I complain that it does not work how I think it would be most usable for me

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