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RFK Jr.’s FDA chief says diabetics should take cooking classes instead of insulin

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  • M [email protected]

    No! Stop acting like they're all stupid, that's what they want you to think.

    He was a pancreatic surgeon at Johns Hopkins. It's literally impossible for him to not be familiar with diabetes unless he has experienced serve memory loss recently.

    He's pushing eugenics and wanting to kill off people with chronic illnesses

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    It's always wild to me when I see people with long, often illustrious careers in things like law or medicine, only to pull something like this that is completely antithetical to everything they've ever studied or worked toward, and shit all over their legacy.

    Like why the fuck were you a surgeon in the first place? If you had these views, why would you go into a career that focuses on helping to keep chronically ill people alive? What is going on in these people's heads?

    Same shit with people like Alito and Thomas. You spent your entire life studying and upholding the US Constitution, and then you get appointed to the highest court in the nation, and decide "yeah fuck that thing, let's have a dictator"?

    It's mind boggling. I would really like to just have some insight into what is happening in these peoples' minds...

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    • M [email protected]

      This. It's literally just suggesting "well how about we just let them die", AKA murder. The HHS especially is now just being filled with eugenicists who are, in general, too chickenshit to just come out and say "well we should kill all of them".

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      #53

      Chickenshit? Or just shrewd?

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      • M [email protected]

        As much i love a good trashing of politican the real quote was "Maybe we need to treat more diabetes with cooking classes, not just throwing insulin at people,"

        Better diet really could help prevent type 2 diebetes and personally i think prevention is always better solution than treatment.

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        Oh you mean the thing that we already do? Good suggestion.

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            You wish.

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            • N [email protected]

              People will die because of these fuck holes.

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              "Try not being so fat, you fucking fatties" is a reaction I have heard from people who are themselves overweight. It's genuinely maddening to see how many Americans are sold on the most superficial understanding of "healthy" as "fuckable" rather than "capable and resilient".

              So much of the Trump attitude towards health seems to be geared towards eugenics against old ugly poors.

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              • jagged_circle@feddit.nlJ [email protected]

                Is he suggesting that the US is going to fund free cooking classes that are low in fat and sugar? Because that's a great idea.

                And they should also provide free insulin.

                Maybe we can compromise and say that you have to attend 4 hours of free cooking classes every month to receive your free insulin for the month?

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                Maybe we can compromise and say that you have to attend 4 hours of free cooking classes every month to receive your free insulin for the month?

                Means Testing your Insulin by telling you to spend hours in your car, away from your family, attending state-mandated privately administered lectures put on by the lowest bidder.

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                • G [email protected]

                  Yes and no for US. We have folks lining up for ice cream at Walmart and jabbing insulin with it. Diabetes is a diet disease (T2). My A1C was north of 15 when diagnosed. I did go the diet route and managed it before 5.7 for 4 years and now finally it's creeping up to 5.9. It's a chronic disease and will get worse with time.

                  Other issue I find is it is expensive to eat healthy in US. So either we need to provide cheaper healthier option or we need to provide insulin. We cannot take them both away.

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                  Food that's bad for you is often cheap to transport and preserve for long periods. An apple will rot in weeks, but a twinkie can sit on a shelf for years.

                  The industrialization of agriculture has been highly profitable for a handful of insiders and horrible for everyone else.

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                    Challenge Accepted.

                    Simpsons TV show still where Lisa is holding a book seemingly titled “How to cook humans”

                    We’ll get insurers and Medicaid to fully cover diabetes supplies in no time.

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                    • P [email protected]

                      I mean yes, he is wrong. They'd still need the fucking insulin. Even if type 2 is reversible, it's not going to be immediate.

                      Dude didn't say, "we should be encouraging these people to eat better" because we already do that. Of course we already do that.

                      He said that they should take cooking classes instead of insulin.

                      Stop giving these ghouls the benefit of the doubt. They literally want you dead.

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                      Of course we already do that.

                      How's that working for us?

                      checks how fat America is

                      Oh.

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                        Is a total ban on diabetes medicine on the way? This is an effort to kill anyone who isn't young and fit.

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                        Is a total ban on diabetes medicine on the way?

                        Insulin, anyways. I'm sure semaglutide will still be available, since it's such a weight-loss wonder-drug

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                        • M [email protected]

                          Yeah, I’d say yes. It's a primer and warning shot. They’ll roll it out in phases.

                          It gets a reaction out of us. And not always a logical one. A lot of people’s gut instinct is just to deny whatever “they” say. That does two things:

                          First, it gets their base thinking and talking about how many T2 diabetics are supposedly just consequences of lifestyle.

                          Second, it pushes the left into reflexively denying that even though it’s partly true. So now, when any real conversation comes up, there’s already a schism. And they can use that to sneak more garbage through, stuff that benefits them and their friends.

                          Can we head them off at the pass?

                          No. Never.

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                          Can we head them off at the pass?

                          No. Never.

                          Can it come to pass that their heads come off?

                          “All of this has happened before, and it will all happen again.”

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                          • jagged_circle@feddit.nlJ [email protected]

                            Is he suggesting that the US is going to fund free cooking classes that are low in fat and sugar? Because that's a great idea.

                            And they should also provide free insulin.

                            Maybe we can compromise and say that you have to attend 4 hours of free cooking classes every month to receive your free insulin for the month?

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                            They're not going to fund anything. Nothing is free.

                            It's a great idea, and they'll just talk about it while killing the presently funded programs, then do nothing.

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                              Yes and no for US. We have folks lining up for ice cream at Walmart and jabbing insulin with it. Diabetes is a diet disease (T2). My A1C was north of 15 when diagnosed. I did go the diet route and managed it before 5.7 for 4 years and now finally it's creeping up to 5.9. It's a chronic disease and will get worse with time.

                              Other issue I find is it is expensive to eat healthy in US. So either we need to provide cheaper healthier option or we need to provide insulin. We cannot take them both away.

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                              it is expensive to eat healthy in US

                              Expensive and inconvenient.

                              If you're not cooking for yourself, 95%+ of what's available for "low effort" is sugar coated salty fat bombs. That's what "free market" competition in restaurants gets you: hyper-attractive foods.

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                              • underpantsweevil@lemmy.worldU [email protected]

                                Food that's bad for you is often cheap to transport and preserve for long periods. An apple will rot in weeks, but a twinkie can sit on a shelf for years.

                                The industrialization of agriculture has been highly profitable for a handful of insiders and horrible for everyone else.

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                                The industrialization of agriculture has been highly profitable for a handful of insiders and horrible for everyone else.

                                Industrialization of agriculture is what keeps enough calories flowing from the farms to the people.

                                Commercialization of foods - processed foods, fast food restaurants, chain restaurants, ex-tobacco industry leadership of the food companies, that's the biggest driver of "horrible" - unless you're profiting from the healthcare costs that are ballooning with American waistlines.

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                                • M [email protected]

                                  Can we head them off at the pass?

                                  No. Never.

                                  Can it come to pass that their heads come off?

                                  “All of this has happened before, and it will all happen again.”

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                                  Splendid turn of phrase.

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                                  • E [email protected]

                                    nonononono that's communism

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                                    Yes. All the food should be free too, of course

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                                    • P [email protected]

                                      I don't understand why people are still so insistent on being charitable to these scumbags.

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                                      Its just basic statistics

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                                        Syringes for me, but not for thee.

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                                        • G [email protected]

                                          Yes and no for US. We have folks lining up for ice cream at Walmart and jabbing insulin with it. Diabetes is a diet disease (T2). My A1C was north of 15 when diagnosed. I did go the diet route and managed it before 5.7 for 4 years and now finally it's creeping up to 5.9. It's a chronic disease and will get worse with time.

                                          Other issue I find is it is expensive to eat healthy in US. So either we need to provide cheaper healthier option or we need to provide insulin. We cannot take them both away.

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                                          Diabetes is a diet disease

                                          Poor diet can increase likelihood of developing T2, and good diet can help manage, but diet does not prevent onset of T2.
                                          Also prevalence of gestational diabetes is often a precursor to T2 later in life even when diet and lifestyle otherwise "healthy".

                                          Diabetes is sometimes a diet disease, good diet is not a panacea

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