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do you think freewill truly exists?

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    when we're talking about the kitties doing something cute or what we wanna have for dinner that's not small talk.

    What else do you imagine is part of "small talk"?

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    No. Small talk is what you do with people who are unfamiliar. It's not the bits you exchange with someone who is intimate. That's just catching up. Small talk takes effort for an introvert (which I am). Catching up is just shooting the breeze.

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      I do exactly this ! Hi honey how was your day ? Kids were restless ? Ok. Does that affect your stance on education through play ? is punishment sometimes advisable ? you haven't read your copy of Foucault's Discipl.... hey where are you going ?... baby ??

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      • O [email protected]

        I would eat shit for a down payment of the house I would want and manage to pay back with interest.

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        Done, I'll pay you 100 local currency for a downpayment on a shared ownership (me and my 500 partners) permanent leasehold with renewal charges every 5 years for a 4 sq meter "house" in the middle of the desert with high background radon gas

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          Because relatedness is a fundamental psychological need and sustained meaningful relationships are the best way to achieve that

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          Can get that from a chat at the bar. Sustained meaningful relationships are the best way to lead to depression and severe physiological trauma. Fuck that shit.

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            At the same time, you claiming/thinking you have free will doesn't make "the universe" enable it for you. You do not have meta powers.

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            It doesn't matter. If there is no free will, the illusion is strong enough to make me think that there is.

            There is no way of proving if it's chemistry, physics, will of god or actual free will. I feel like I have free will, it doesn't matter what the truth is because the truth cannot break the illusion.

            A brain can only make me feel free will and that's all that matters practically.

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              Not spelled like that, no.

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                Can get that from a chat at the bar. Sustained meaningful relationships are the best way to lead to depression and severe physiological trauma. Fuck that shit.

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                "physiological" trauma? Like diabetes from all the PDAs?

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                  How do you get married to someone if you never started with small talk?

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                  Because that way "I see you as a friend!" lies. At least that's why I'm single.

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                    Not spelled like that, no.

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                    Fuckin' got 'em.

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                      I hate small talk, because you (a stranger) do not interest me and I don't care about trying to connect with you. I have neither the need nor the energy to try and am very comfortable just being in silence.

                      I small talk with people that I interact on a daily basis and need to communicate with (coworkers). Even then it heavily depends on how much energy I have.

                      I small talk with my friends and SO because I want to connect. So I put effort in to be present in the conversations.

                      It's not right to lump small talk with a cashier, cab driver or a haircutter together with small talk with a friend or a partner.

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                      I hate small talk, because you (a stranger) do not interest me and I don’t care about trying to connect with you.

                      Pretty much sums up all our problems as a civilization in one paragraph, thank you.

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                        Small talk is the equivalent of dogs sniffing each others ass. The topic isn't really the point, it's just a quick and easy way to gauge another person's mood and attitude towards you. It's a skill worth developing. And I say this as someone with social anxiety.

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                        So small talk is a horrible name then.

                        Could one, instead, just ask "Hey, are you willing to get into a big deep metaphysical conversation right now?" Then ask the question?

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                          I hate small talk, because you (a stranger) do not interest me and I don’t care about trying to connect with you.

                          Pretty much sums up all our problems as a civilization in one paragraph, thank you.

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                          Listen man, we (as individuals) can't care for or help everybody. Connect with the ones you care about and don't harm everyone else. The fact that I don't care about you, doesn't mean we can't coexist or even help each other.

                          Looking form another angle, why not wanting to socialize in stranger small talk is bad? Why I am expected to accommodate? Why can't we just enjoy the silence in this hypothetical situation?

                          I see this sentiment more often than not. Me, as the less social party, is expected to move out of my comfort zone, but the person trying get me into a conversation isn't expected do the same and just keep to themselves.

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                            No, we just stfu when we don't have anything interesting to talk about. It's not complicated.

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                            So like when you get home from a normal and boring day at work you just walk into your house in silence and sit down?

                            No "hey honey how are you" or anything like that? No ranting about crappy coworkers? No comments about how you saw 6 silver accords in a row on the way to work?

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                              I think I like it more than most but not just to hear words out loud. If you have a story about the weather impacting your day that's much more interesting than just commenting on it in general.

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                              It's raining in south latvia btw

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                                Rolling a Quantum dice is not freedom.

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                                We're harmonics in the differential equation called life

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                                  I hate talking small. I'm not good at it. It's one of the reasons I have a limited number of profound friendships rather than being liked by everybody. I'm an introvert. I'm ok with that. My partner can chat when we see each other after work because when we're talking about the kitties doing something cute or what we wanna have for dinner that's not small talk. That's talking about things with very low impact or consequences.

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                                  I think that's smalltalk

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                                    I think that's smalltalk

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                                    No. Small talk is what you do with people who are unfamiliar. It's not the bits you exchange with someone who is intimate. That's just catching up. Small talk takes effort for an introvert (which I am). Catching up is just shooting the breeze.

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                                      So like when you get home from a normal and boring day at work you just walk into your house in silence and sit down?

                                      No "hey honey how are you" or anything like that? No ranting about crappy coworkers? No comments about how you saw 6 silver accords in a row on the way to work?

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                                      I would love to walk into my house in silence and just sit down. I'm usually stressed AF when I get home and the last thing I want to do is talk to someone. Unfortunately I rent from a couple of retirees who spend all day camped out in their living room watching TV and it's impossible to enter the house without going through there and having to have a tedious conversation with them about what their dog did today or whatever stupid thing.

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                                        You're assuming quantum indeterminism is random in the sense that there is no agency behind it, but there is no evidence of that. If anything, the fact we feel like we have free will suggests there might be some agency somewhere, and if it manifests anywhere, that is as indeterminism at the fundamental level.

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                                        If there is an agent who is deciding it then that would show up in the statistics. Unless you're saying there exists an agent who decides the outcomes but always just so happens to very conveniently decide they should be entirely random. lol

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                                          Can get that from a chat at the bar. Sustained meaningful relationships are the best way to lead to depression and severe physiological trauma. Fuck that shit.

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                                          You're clearly in need of therapy and a proper support network, I hope you get the help you need before it's too late

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