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the amount of self righteousness and lack of empathy from some non smokers really makes me glad that I will never have to hang out with those types of people.
Youre seriously trying to guilt trip non-smokers here? Sure, addiction is horrible and some people are really struggling, but the majority of smokers I know dont give a shit that theyre actively killing others by blowing smoke into their faces on the street. Its ignorant and toxic behavior which is tolerated because of decades of brainwashing by the industry.
I have very little empathy for people who choose hurting others for their own convenience. Maybe start with empathy for poor people that struggle surviving because they are being exploited, or people that are systemically suppressed, then move on to empathy for smokers and other criminals.
I hope you get better, but your struggles dont excuse the millions of smokers actively harming their environments without a care in the world.
Would you like me to analyze your ethical decisions and judge you publicly? I am certain we can find some unethical behaviors that you partake in every day that hurt the environment and the people around you. I don’t have time in my day. It’s just a really weird thing to pick out and have a moral battle with. It’s a personal choice. It’s an addiction. There’s plenty of bad people out there. The cigarette smokers are not trying to hurt you intentionally.
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Yeah, it was fun for a while. The good thing is, so many people stopped smoking in the last few years, that smoking stopped to be this special social thing.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]I never smoked, but had to hang out with smokers outside the office building at my first job, if I wanted a bit of break and chat with colleagues. I usually brought a glass of water with me.
Happy that this is not the case anymore.
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What does smoking a cigarette here or there has to do with addiction?
Where did I or the original post mention anything about occasional smokers? This post is offensive to those struggling from lifelong addiction to cigarettes, which is almost never a choice.
Also wouldn't it be the best advice against addiction find the will in oneself to stop doing it? If addicted smokers know what their cigarettes do for themselves and others, then they might want to try search for help, to get them off their addiction?
Gee, that's such great advice! Why didn't the lifelong addict think of that one themselves? You just singlehandedly solved addiction.
Noone chooses being addicted to cigarettes. It's a mental health disorder just like being addicted to fentanyl or heroin, and a crippling one at that for some. Please educate yourself about what addiction is before defending posts like this. What you are doing is similar to shitting on people for "choosing" their sexuality or gender.
Where did I or the original post mention anything about occasional smokers? This post is offensive to those struggling from lifelong addiction to cigarettes, which is almost never a choice.
Where did they mention addiction?
They mention cigarettes, and their bad affects on the people using them and the people around that. Stating that they are bad should not be offensive, because that is stating the facts.
If they are offended by that... IDK. That is something they have to work through themselves.
Gee, that's such great advice! Why didn't the lifelong addict think of that one themselves? You just singlehandedly solved addiction.
You are misrepresenting what I said. I said that to get over an addiction you first have to want it. And you say: Just wanting to stop is not enough, and I agree.
Noone chooses being addicted to cigarettes. It's a mental health disorder just like being addicted to fentanyl or heroin, and a crippling one at that for some. Please educate yourself about what addiction is before defending posts like this. What you are doing is similar to shitting on people for "choosing" their sexuality or gender.
True, however people don't just wake up one day and be addicted. They have to take it first (willingly or unwillingly), putting a social stigma on the act of using these addictive substances, can at least prevent some people of getting accidentally addicted.
So I would be in favor of supporting people getting out of their addiction, while preventing people to get addicted, by showing what is bad about these drugs and trying to fight against the social component of "taking them makes you cool".
What are you fighting for? Finding ways of being offended?
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I smoked from the time I was 15, until I was 33. I got a prescription for something called Chantix that worked really well for me to quit permanently.
It worked well for a few people I knew, but one guy said it made him really depressed / suicidal.
Chantix isn’t available anymore because of something that was in it that might cause cancer, but there’s a generic form of it called varenicline that may or may not be available in your country. Ask your doctor maybe if there’s a pill that will help you quit.
Yeah, this worked well for me, too. The generic one you mention also had less side effects for me. There's still the vivid dreams / nightmares, but less intense.
From Chantix /Champix I recollect the spider dreams and floor crumbling beneath me.
But hey, anything to quit smoking.
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I thought you wheren't allowed to smoke inside anymore in Germany?
He could mean terraces (outside)? That still bugs me a lot...
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Yeah, I guess things would really suck for the person that only has 1 window too.
Might be that the only one that gets any fresh air into their office is the one closest to the smoker.
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If your lungs are making that much noise you might have a medical condition that you should go get checked out, lungs aren't supposed to be that noisy.
It was clearly a figure of speech
Reading comprehension is one of the first things to go with acute lack of oxygen
Should check that out with doctor, just saying
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I can't hear you over my 100% lung capacity. I am breathing so good right now. You wouldn't even believe.
This guy BREATHS
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Womens choice of clothing doesnt excuse predators, but it still puts many in a tough situation by tempting them (not voluntarily but for them its a temptation).
It is voluntary. Being a creep is a learned behavior and can be unlearned. I'll admit it's systemic but it's our(M/Society) responsibility to change that.
Which is in no way saying the women are at fault but unwanted outcomes can be avoided by their chioce.
The sentence part after "but" is in direct conflict with thee first.
So you could live your life making sure others arent influenced in a negative way by your behavior or you could go to the limits of yoir freedom disregarding any consequences for others as long as youre on the legal side. The answer should be somewhere in the middle of the two extremes, but who can say where exactly. (I mean many do pretend they know, but its obviously subjective)
This should have been a separate paragraph, it's a different idea even if in context. This still let's predators off the hook by assuming their motivations and behavior are "natural" or "innate" in a way that can't change.
Theone thing humans do well is learn. It's one of our few evolutionary advantages. The "limits of your freedom" don't have to include predatory behavior if you don't identify it as part to your autonomy or self.E: pedantism, see strikethrough
It is voluntary. Being a creep is a learned behavior and can be unlearned. I'll admit it's systemic but it's our(M/Society) responsibility to change that.
Definitely
The sentence part after "but" is in direct conflict with thee first.
I dont think it is. You can avoid being shot on the street by not leaving your house. The blame lies with the shooter but you could avoid it if that was your goal.
This should have been a separate paragraph, it's a different idea even if in context. This still let's predators off the hook by assuming their motivations and behavior are "natural" or "innate" in a way that can't change.
Thats not what Im saying at all and I dont think my comment made it sound like that. Im 100% convinced that predators are at fault and should be the ones being punished. Maybe my comment was unclear, Im not a native speaker.
Theone thing humans do well is learn. It's one of our few evolutionary advantages. The "limits of your freedom" don't have to include predatory behavior if you don't identify it as part to your autonomy or self.Not sure what you mean exactly but I wasnt talking about predators' freedom.
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Not everyone has decent ventilation.
Specially this guy
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Would you like me to analyze your ethical decisions and judge you publicly? I am certain we can find some unethical behaviors that you partake in every day that hurt the environment and the people around you. I don’t have time in my day. It’s just a really weird thing to pick out and have a moral battle with. It’s a personal choice. It’s an addiction. There’s plenty of bad people out there. The cigarette smokers are not trying to hurt you intentionally.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Would you like me to analyze your ethical decisions and judge you publicly? I am certain we can find some unethical behaviors that you partake in every day that hurt the environment and the people around you.
I know there is and it is perfectly valid to judge me for those things, just like I am judging others for their hurtful choices. Im not saying all smokers are bad people per se, like I said I know a lot of them and thats a part of them I dont like just like there are parts of me they dont like.
It’s just a really weird thing to pick out and have a moral battle with. It’s a personal choice. It’s an addiction. There’s plenty of bad people out there.
That is some major whataboutism and Im pretty sure you know that.
The cigarette smokers are not trying to hurt you intentionally.
I know but that doesnt really make it better. People driving huge trucks everywhere dont do it just to pollute the environment or hit kids, but its still horrible on a greater scale.
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It was clearly a figure of speech
Reading comprehension is one of the first things to go with acute lack of oxygen
Should check that out with doctor, just saying
Take a deep breath, it was just a joke.
You sound like you need a cigarette.
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It was the primary nail in my mother's coffin and her mother's coffin too.
Knowing that addictive tendencies are hereditary, I hope you are OK & continue to be OK.
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There's still hope. I still chain vape, but the amount of nicotine I use is but a whisper. It's entirely a routine at this point. I'm figuring out positive actions I can do whenever I feel the need to suck on my robot dick.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Asexual non smoker here. I have bad news for you:
The urge of sucking robot dick is truly universal and inevitable.
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As a tobacco fiend I couldn't ever get into smoking cigs. The only time in my life I've smoked consistently was when I was extra depressed and trying to microdose suicide. Guess I'm lucky
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This seems to ignore the important facts that smoking is A.) Cool and B.) Sexy.
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Asexual non smoker here. I have bad news for you:
The urge of sucking robot dick is truly universal and inevitable.
I'm hoping we make First Contact soon so I can make a healthy transition from Robot Dick to Alien Dick.
Sorry, that's insensitive.
Xenophallus.
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Gotta taper the nicotine down, even if you vape like a chimney out of habit, that way when you do try a cigarette again the nicotine is overpowering and gross
True! I was out of my element last year and ran out of juice due to poor planning. Resorted to sharing a smoke and felt like garbage for the next two days.
I do still miss the smell, though. Probably just nostalgia from feeling like a Cool Guy for the first time in my life choking down a Camel unfiltered behind the 7-11.
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Dutch tobacco? the whacky kind?
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Halfsvere Shag. Finely shredded rolling tobacco like Drum or Ball Shag. I rolled my own smokes before I quit. The aroma, in my opinion, is dreamy, especially compared to American cigarettes.
If Bali Shag released incense sticks, I'd seriously consider purchasing them.
