Kid gave a reasonable answer without all the math bullshit
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"This is not possible because..."
This kid is never going to trust teachers again.
He was right. The question is not even worded ambiguously. It was just written very poorly.
Will the teacher admit that? Or is the expectation that this (likely neuro divergent) student should have just understood the expectations based on context clues or something?
This kid is never going to trust teachers again.
If one bad response is enough to turn you off from anyone else teaching you anything ever, then you're carrying some enormous trauma that has nothing to do with a single math question.
If one bad response is enough to open your eyes to the fallibility of individuals and lead you to think more deeply about where you get your information and how you evaluate the correctness of a response, then you're going to go far and develop a much deeper understanding of the world.
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It’s fucking dumb. No where did it say the pizzas are equal size. So the kids answer is just as right as her bullshit answer.
No, the kid's answer is not "just as right", it is the correct and expected answer. The teacher's answer is wrong and proof the teacher doesn't understand the question. The entire point of the question is understanding that fractions of a whole are relative to that whole and you can't directly compare fractions from different wholes like that. 5/6 > 4/6 doesn't mean Luis ate more pizza than Marty, it means Luis ate a larger share of his pizza than Marty ate out of his own.
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How is that possible?
"False"
️By stating the answer given by the problem is wrong, and “showing the work” to demonstrate why it’s wrong.
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The teacher is fucking stupid.
The teacher is likely under-trained, overworked, and under-qualified for the class. Common in districts where the focus of the administration is driving down the cost of education rather than delivering the highest quality.
That is, of course, assuming this is a real homework and not some agitprop churned out by a Facebook group or a social media account more interested in generating outrage than education.
With the choice of marker, I'd say its rage bait.
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"This is not possible because..."
This kid is never going to trust teachers again.
He was right. The question is not even worded ambiguously. It was just written very poorly.
Will the teacher admit that? Or is the expectation that this (likely neuro divergent) student should have just understood the expectations based on context clues or something?
Valuable lesson learned, trust yourself instead of authority ( I hope at least that was it and not start of self doubting ever after)
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"This is not possible because..."
This kid is never going to trust teachers again.
He was right. The question is not even worded ambiguously. It was just written very poorly.
Will the teacher admit that? Or is the expectation that this (likely neuro divergent) student should have just understood the expectations based on context clues or something?
This kid is never going to trust that teacher again.
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In my experience this is how it feels to communicate as an autistic person
Most threads on here remind me of that
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When I was in elementary, my teacher said that "Lutetia" was how the Romans called the city of Liege. As an avid reader of Asterix comics, I knew this isn't true and corrected her and said it was the Roman name of Paris. She insisted that it is Liege. Anyway, the next day, she came back to class and said that she looked it up and that I was indeed correct and Lutetia referred to Paris and gave me a chocolate bar and told me to keep reading comics. Good teacher.
Dang, in which country are you talking about Liège in elementary school?
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With the choice of marker, I'd say its rage bait.
Can confirm. My grad mentor's grad mentor used green because he'd read a paper that green causes more eye strain and he thought it'd be hilarious to grade in green.
I grade in green because it drives my students nuts.
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it’s much easier to just substract 2 from 2000, “IIMM” duh!
For anyone wondering why this is wrong, there are two reasons:
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The roman numeral system only traditionally contains subtractions from the next higher five- and tenfold symbol. So you can subtract I from V and X, X from L and C, C from D and M
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The subtractions only generally allowed one symbol to be subtracted, with a few notable exceptions like XIIX for 18 and XXIIX for 28
Holy shit this is dope!
But how did historians come up with the conclusion that, in the case of XIIX, the Romans substracted from the second X, and didn’t just write 12+10?
Not arguing, just extremely curious
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You introduced a lie as part of the problem
There is no lie or contradiction in the problem, what are you smoking? The kid's answer is exactly correct.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Marty ate more than Luis, that was she lie, in the problem not the answer. That's if the teacher is saying the answer isn't right.
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Marty ate more than Luis, that was she lie, in the problem not the answer. That's if the teacher is saying the answer isn't right.
The teacher didn't write OR understand the question. It's about reasonableness - that is, not just mindlessly solving math. The solution is that Marty's pizza was bigger, so 4/6 of that was more than 5/6 of Luis', smaller pizza.
There is no lie. The teached is just dumb. Or more likely overworked, but wrong nontheless.
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I have an argument like that in my calculus 1 class in college, it was an optimization problem but the professor never said that the optimization variable was a constant, so you couldn't differentiate it to zero and do the normal process that you typically do. So I just wrote that given that the perimeter wasn't a constant the area to optimize goes to infinite Givin x -> inf; y -> 0, without loss of generality. He marked me zero we discussed about it and I said that I don't care because I'm going to get a 10 next test if he didn't fucked up the question. At the next exam I made some stupid error but he still gave 9/10 for the overall class because he came to accept that he wrote the question wrong and I was the only in the class actually caring and giving the class some dedication.
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Holy shit this is dope!
But how did historians come up with the conclusion that, in the case of XIIX, the Romans substracted from the second X, and didn’t just write 12+10?
Not arguing, just extremely curious
The general rule is that the larger symbols come first in Roman numerals, so 12+10 (22) would be written as 10+10+1+1 or XXII.
If you literally meant the arithmetic 12+10, I'd assume they used some symbol for addition, so it would be written as XII+X, but I can't say for sure.
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Is there any reason at face value why the teacher’s answer is correct? From my perspective the teacher is an idiot and missing some basic math skills.
Marty ate 66% vs the other kid’s 83%, no way “marty ate more” with the information given.
reasonableness
This is likely a question about some topic on reasonable questions and answers, rather than a maths question.
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reasonableness
Every time this gets reposted, everyone misses this first word.
This isn't a maths question.
It's asking the student to read the question and make an observation if it's a reasonable question and answer.
And with the information provided it's not.
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I'm pretty sure the kid's answer was how it was supposed to be answered
Honestly I suspect the question was phrased poorly. It should have simply said "who ate more pizza" not stated who ate more and request to explain how
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Marty's pizza is larger. 4/6ths of a 3kg pizza is more than 5/6ths of a 1kg pizza
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Interesting, I'm autistic and what frustrates me here is that the question specifically asks you to posit "How is it possible" and the teacher insists that you're supposed to just say that it's not. Makes me want to just Calvinball the whole damn exam. 5 + 7, what is the answer? Purple. Obviously.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]And it’s not even some crazy stretch to make the premises work. Like if it had said the pizzas are the same size, I’d have to try to come up with something ridiculous to meet the requirements of the question, and would probably just leave it blank. But people order different sized pizzas every day.
The “correct” answer contradicts the requirements set out in the question.
Am I autistic? Or do I just have basic reading comprehension?
If the “correct” answer is valid, so is “actually neither of these people exist”, because we clearly aren’t expected (or allowed!) to accept the premises for sake of argument.
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reasonableness
This is likely a question about some topic on reasonable questions and answers, rather than a maths question.
If I saw two people order different sizes of pizzas, my mind wouldn’t be blown, and nobody would consider the situation unreasonable.
