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    On top of that, even if you did manage to migrate your account, the M$ Minecraft accounts get deleted without warning after some time (2 years?) of inactivity. Guess how I found that out.

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    #45

    The MS or MC account?
    Because my MC account is very dead, while my MS is semi active.

    Edit: (Dead meaning not deactivated)

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    • blackn1ght@feddit.ukB [email protected]

      It's not like internal build servers are 100% reliable, scaleable and cheap though. Personally I've found cloud based build tools to be just a better experience as a dev.

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      Jesus Christ, can you not even conceive of the idea of building on your own machine?

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        Jesus Christ, can you not even conceive of the idea of building on your own machine?

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        I'm talking about in a professional environment. You basically need a team to manage them and have a backlog of updates and fixes and requests from multiple dev teams. If you offload that to something cloud based that pretty much evaporates, apart from providing some shared workflows. And it's just generally a better experience as a dev team, at least in my experience it has been.

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        • blackn1ght@feddit.ukB [email protected]

          I'm talking about in a professional environment. You basically need a team to manage them and have a backlog of updates and fixes and requests from multiple dev teams. If you offload that to something cloud based that pretty much evaporates, apart from providing some shared workflows. And it's just generally a better experience as a dev team, at least in my experience it has been.

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          #48

          In a professional environment, I've never had remote-only build systems, with the exception of release signing of locked-down compiler licensing. Otherwise, there's always been a local option.

          Edit: is my personal experience wrong somehow?

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          • lena@gregtech.euL [email protected]

            https://www.githubstatus.com/

            Edit: seems like they fixed it, it works for me

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            #49

            It works on my machine!

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            • lena@gregtech.euL [email protected]

              https://www.githubstatus.com/

              Edit: seems like they fixed it, it works for me

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              Interesting - I've been retired a few years but the way we used github was git commit, git push, usually at the end of the day. How has the workflow changed so people constantly need it to do any work?

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                What do they mean by "Carry On."?

                It's already over. The guy in the left had both, the High Ground and the higher posture.

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                In this case it means "nevermind".

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                  He's liable to get top-heavy and just fall over. Guy on the right has a nice center of gravity.

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                  He sacrificed sure-footing for a killing stroke.

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                    Interesting - I've been retired a few years but the way we used github was git commit, git push, usually at the end of the day. How has the workflow changed so people constantly need it to do any work?

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                    GitHub added CI/CD pipeline functionality (called GitHub Actions). If it's down I can't merge code or deploy code anywhere since company policy requires analysis builds to run, and our deploys use the GitHub Actions to ship the code.

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                    • douglasg14b@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                      There's a reason we value the local development environment.

                      You can run everything locally, the only use for the cloud environment is for CD.

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                      I'll be honest. I just enjoy seeing my auto updater script work whenever I push to main and the Web page updates itself. FEELS SO GOOD TO JUST DO A PUSH AND HAVE YOUR CHANGES UP IN 3 MINS.

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                        Interesting - I've been retired a few years but the way we used github was git commit, git push, usually at the end of the day. How has the workflow changed so people constantly need it to do any work?

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                        GitHub actions is crazy convenient, but it's a huge pain to run a copy locally. I try not to depend on it too much, but sometimes it is simplest to just go refill my coffee while it figures itself out.

                        (And it's almost never down. This week was unusual, to me.)

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                        • lena@gregtech.euL [email protected]

                          https://www.githubstatus.com/

                          Edit: seems like they fixed it, it works for me

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                          This thread pivots hard from version control jokes into a somber discussion of the future of Minecraft.

                          I have found my people. You all are amazing.

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                            People forget git is a DVCS, you can send PRs to each other without relying on Github.

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                            Wait what

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                              Interesting - I've been retired a few years but the way we used github was git commit, git push, usually at the end of the day. How has the workflow changed so people constantly need it to do any work?

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                              Unfortunately, the ecosystem around github has evolved so that most folks centralize their testing and deployment code into being executed on github infrastructure. Frankly a perversion of the decentralized design of git.

                              Fortunately for my team, it doesn't matter because our process requires stuff that can't be done from github infrastructure anyway, so we have kept the automatic testing and deployment on premise even as github is the 'canonical' place for the code to live.

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                                Wait what

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                                Yeah dog pretty much everything on the github website is an interface to display info held in the .git folder of the website.

                                Thats how theres github, gitlab, gitea, gitlab, forgejo, etc etc. There are even applications you can download to visualize info in git that run on your local machine, and only see youe local filesystem.

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                                  Yeah dog pretty much everything on the github website is an interface to display info held in the .git folder of the website.

                                  Thats how theres github, gitlab, gitea, gitlab, forgejo, etc etc. There are even applications you can download to visualize info in git that run on your local machine, and only see youe local filesystem.

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                                  Maybe what I misunderstood is where git ends and github starts. I know there are other hosting platforms, and I've used a lot of git visualizers. But what I've never tried to do is use git with multiple developers without connecting to some 3rd party server. Is there some peer to peer functionality built into git or did I totally misunderstand your original comment? Or are you literally sharing the git folder via network file system, thumb drive, etc?

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                                    Maybe what I misunderstood is where git ends and github starts. I know there are other hosting platforms, and I've used a lot of git visualizers. But what I've never tried to do is use git with multiple developers without connecting to some 3rd party server. Is there some peer to peer functionality built into git or did I totally misunderstand your original comment? Or are you literally sharing the git folder via network file system, thumb drive, etc?

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                                    Git doesn't have a concept of a preferred repository; your local copy is exactly as valid to git as a git server hosted on github.

                                    The originally intended workflow as I understand it involved generating patches which would be shared via a mailing list.

                                    In practice there will generally be a repository that's considered "canonical" for a project, whether that's the one on the computer of the lead maintainer or some hosted solution.

                                    A basic git server is essentially just a repository owned by a restricted user with SSH access granted to maintainers.. This can allow users to push and pull from a centralised or semi-centralised repository in much the same way as GitHub.

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                                    • lena@gregtech.euL [email protected]

                                      I'll get downvoted for this, but I think they take good care of github and Minecraft. As for the rest though... not so good.

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                                      They deliberately removed code search for not logged in users almost immediately. Just recently they removed cloning without an account, so now updating my computer requires signing in to github.

                                      They have been awful stewards.

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                                      • J [email protected]

                                        Unfortunately, the ecosystem around github has evolved so that most folks centralize their testing and deployment code into being executed on github infrastructure. Frankly a perversion of the decentralized design of git.

                                        Fortunately for my team, it doesn't matter because our process requires stuff that can't be done from github infrastructure anyway, so we have kept the automatic testing and deployment on premise even as github is the 'canonical' place for the code to live.

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                                        Wow, that's such a classic Microsoft approach - "Embrace and Extend."

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                                          GitHub actions is crazy convenient, but it's a huge pain to run a copy locally. I try not to depend on it too much, but sometimes it is simplest to just go refill my coffee while it figures itself out.

                                          (And it's almost never down. This week was unusual, to me.)

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                                          I still use github for personal projects but have never looked into what the Actions do, since github serves my minimal needs as-is. But it also did when I was working. I would think if people find that depending on certain features ultimately disrupts their work, the smart thing would be not to use those features.

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