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  • A [email protected]

    Trust them. They're engineers.

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    With epic skill and epic gear.

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      This is the type of thing that I look at say this can't possibly work, and the engineer beside me will look at me a little confused and say this can't possibly fail. Sure enough they're usually right. Usually. I still won't be climbing on there.

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      Well, it's always best to listen to the little voice inside, especially if it says "I might just die here". I completely understand why you would not be climbing on that.

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        Is this Loss?

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          And coming from a well off family, why is it wrong for me to buy stuff?

          Not saying that is the argument you're making/defending. Just don't see a problem with helping people out.

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          It's not wrong, but a lot of people hate being harassed until they buy something.

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            With epic skill and epic gear.

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            But... What the fuck did just happened here? 🎶

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              It's not wrong, but a lot of people hate being harassed until they buy something.

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              No disagreement here.

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                Is this Loss?

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                • F [email protected]

                  "If it's stupid but works, it wasn't stupid" doesn't apply to safety or security.

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                  Well, that's what I said, just with an attempt at humor

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                  • M [email protected]

                    That looks to me like a drawing by the design/architecture team, but there is a real boat like that and it's a pretty close match for the design. Here's a video with drone footage from the launch; 1:39 you can see a view kinda similar to the drawing.

                    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bw4_PUtqdF4

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                    Does it have the slides that terminate over the ocean?

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                    • K [email protected]

                      That's plenty of time for a quick visit though?

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                      I don't know. When I go to a city as a tourist, I typically stay for 4 to 7 days before moving elsewhere, so that I at least have a very vague idea of what the place is like. One afternoon isn't enough time to do anything, you can see a museum and have a coffee, which is nice, but doesn't tell you much about the place.
                      I suppose it's another way to visit, but it's odd to me.

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                        oh my god first ever recorded event of ASCII art in lemmy

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                        Letters, punctuation, and spaces are just about the only ASCII in that art.

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                        • anunusualrelic@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                          I don't know. When I go to a city as a tourist, I typically stay for 4 to 7 days before moving elsewhere, so that I at least have a very vague idea of what the place is like. One afternoon isn't enough time to do anything, you can see a museum and have a coffee, which is nice, but doesn't tell you much about the place.
                          I suppose it's another way to visit, but it's odd to me.

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                          You're there to visit it, you don't need to learn the whole city lol

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                            And coming from a well off family, why is it wrong for me to buy stuff?

                            Not saying that is the argument you're making/defending. Just don't see a problem with helping people out.

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                            I was just explaining a misunderstanding, that being heckler vs hawker... I think you've replied to the wrong comment?

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                              I was just explaining a misunderstanding, that being heckler vs hawker... I think you've replied to the wrong comment?

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                              I think I did too. Please accept my apologies!

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                                I’ve been invited on a few cruises.

                                I was in the navy, and immediately launch into a tirade about how top heavy and unsafe those things are.

                                “Well it’s never been a problem for us”

                                Okie dokie, I took statistics, so hard pass all the same 🙂

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                                I mean the danger of capsizing in a cruise ship is vanishingly tiny, and the Navy has similarly top heavy vessels, like aircraft carriers. They have massive keels, and their displacement is so huge that rough seas mean almost nothing to them. You're far more likely to die in millions of more common activities than to a cruise ship capsizing. I don't really see how taking statistics is helping your argument at all, as statistics are on the cruise's side. Driving or riding in a car is far more dangerous.

                                Now, cruise ships suck for other reasons, like their exploitation of poor countries and massive carbon emissions. Arguing against cruise ships from a statistical safety standpoint is like arguing against airplanes because they could crash, regardless of how likely. The cruise ship excursions and activities on board are more dangerous than their seaworthiness.

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                                  I cannot for the life of me understand how someone could willingly boars one of those monstrosities

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                                  If you are talking about the shape (wider on the top than on the bottom), it's not really a problem.

                                  If you are talking about any other thing, you are probably right.

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                                    Uh, sure. You might also fall on the concrete walk way around the pool, or on the lift, or the lift might fall on you, or any number of things.

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                                    Sure they might fall in the concrete, but that would be really obviously about to happen to have the fall.

                                    Or like others have pointed out, they're using equipment designed for this, and probably nothing will happen lol

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                                      Maxim 43: If it's stupid and it works, it's still stupid and you're lucky.

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                                      the seventy maxims of maximally effective mercenaries?

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                                      • apeman42@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                                        The OP is "just" reckless overconfidence. This is defiance against god.

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                                        I'm from the city which builds these.

                                        We built the previous largest record ships as well. I drove people to an event when Oasis of the Seas launched, iirc.

                                        This somehow seems much taller from this perspective. Bet it's the lense a bit, but also, it's the fact that the ships are so big that driving next to them gives you no sense of their scale. Or height, at least.

                                        Although I know that in comparison to the ferries we actually use, these are humongous.

                                        And even the ferries feel absolutely huge when you're standing on the top deck and looking down at the sea.

                                        I don't have like much thalassophobia or the fear of heights, but leaning over a railing on a cruise ship in the middle of the night to gaze at the abyss really does chill a person a little. I just wonder how that would feel at the top of one of those highers decks. Especially in a storm.

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                                          They're a vacation where everything is taken care of for you. Find a spot, read a book, get all the drinks you want. Need food? Walk over to the chosen food place. Even with thousands of people on board, you can generally find a quiet spot with drinks.

                                          There's all-inclusive resorts, yes, and I've found they're generally more expensive than cruises. If you make your resort hotel float, it's cheaper. I don't know why.

                                          I'd only go anymore if it's a trip that would show things you generally can't see other ways, such as the coast of Alaska or Norway, or going through the Panama Canal. Caribbean cruises are an absolute waste.

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                                          In addition to the stuff the other person said, they can also dodge labor laws and pay people substandard wages, providing inadequate health& safety benefits, and get you close to a high-value location without paying for real estate or contributing to the local tax base.

                                          Cruises are bad. Period.

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