Based muslim child
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Excuse me? If you want one find her yourself.
I answered your question of if my objection was about the subjugation of women, and I pointed out how subjugating women is the problem.
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Actually just has dead, wrapped up Egyptians in his basement.
For when he gets snacky
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Agreed. I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make.
Do you agree? Really? Cause your intimation seems to be that anyone who doesn't agree with you 100% doesn't believe women should have equal rights.
You could expound on your point a bit more, but it'd probably take more than one sentence. Please try.
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The Japanese domestic market?
Jeffrey Dahmer Meats, (Inc.)?
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People confuse polygamy with polygyny.
Polygamy is when one person can marry multiple people.
Polygyny is when one person can marry multiple women.
Polyandry is when one person can marry multiple men.
There's no specific word for when one person can marry multiple nonbinary people.
Polyphony?
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Is the main objection to polygamy that having multiple sex partners is immoral or that the whole arrangement is subjugation of women (because usually it's multiple wives not husbands), or some other reason?
Depends on whose objecting. This arrangement pretty much only works at scale with a combination of religious brainwashing, inequality between and amongst the genders, and a healthy dose of male mortality especially from war.
Inequality among a gender:
For instance if bob and Sam both make 70k 5 women aren't all marrying one or the other in most instances.Inequality between the genders:
Given a complex life path beyond follow in husband's shadow no matter what or become a parish the chance of instability with more people increases with each member added.So the first obvious person to object to broad enactment of this idea ought to be women raised to buy into this when it's not their best option.
Next is society for such groups brainwashing kids.
Then there is the downside of the enabling inequality. Anyone not on the top end of the financial spectrum ought to object to that.
Women ought to object to the idea that they ought to share.
Men not in the top 5-20% ought to object to competing for the remaining women not attached to high status males. Note this is what incels say they are mad about now but there is so much to unpack re their broken brains and it's just not at this juncture real.
Society should be mad at the very large number of unattached men who normally cause trouble.
Some such societies deal with this by trading women like Pokemon cards and driving off excess men. This doesn't work without wars to kill them off or somewhere to drive them to.
Basically everyone but a smallish minority of men would be worse off which is why this is non existent in modern functioning society.
There little net effect on society with a small incidence of polygomy just like with lead in the water.
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Do you agree? Really? Cause your intimation seems to be that anyone who doesn't agree with you 100% doesn't believe women should have equal rights.
You could expound on your point a bit more, but it'd probably take more than one sentence. Please try.
I honestly don’t understand what you’re asking of me. Women having equal rights is a binary thing, they either do or don’t.
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You do think that women should be able to marry more than one person? So above story wouldn't be a problem for you if one of the women had a husband and a wife?
From my personal experience a lot of muslim women do not consent to their husband havinv more than one wife (in Islam the woman has to consent), so it's something that happens only when the women agree to it.
It’s a complicated question to answer. Consent can’t be given under duress, and the rate of abuse in polygamous marriages is astoundingly high. If there was some magical way that the state could verify that everyone is consenting with a true option to say no without their life being ruined, that would be great. However having the state decide who can marry would go really poorly at some point. As a result, I think we’re left with the western status quo where we throw the baby out with the bath water and ban the whole thing. It’s kinda like how some people can be responsible handgun owners but others are murderers and the potential downsides are great enough that nobody gets the privilege. Same for selling cocaine.
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You're making a sweeping general statement.
Polygamy is just Polyamory taken to vows.
There is a problem with a lot of the people that practice polygamy in an unethical way, but not polygamy itself.There is a problem with a lot of the people that practice polygamy in an unethical way
That is what the person you responded to said. There is a problem with the cultural of polygamy here because it's done in an unethical way.
but not polygamy itself.
That is also what the person you replied to said. They clarified specifically that if both genders are free to practice polygamy in the same way there's no issue.
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"one to cook and one to clean" is one of the "joke-y" sayings I heard
Having been on some readings I had not picked up in a second recently, two to poison and be each other's alibi is what went thru my head first lol.
Nothing else to do with the thread. Just the first thought that went thru my head- any rat bastard that lives that shit deserves to be poisoned by both.
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Polyphony?
Didn't they make donkey kong?
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The Japanese domestic market?
Nah mate, Jack Della Maddalena obviously. He's gonna stuff the takedowns and piece islam up on the feet.
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I knew a guy who - about 20 years ago, slept with both women in a lesbian relationship. As in - they cheated on each other with him. And somehow they formed a workable triad out of that that was pretty darn stable for like 10 years. Until he got caught cheating on them (after months, apparently) with someone in their social group - a younger, monogamous, ‘party girl’-type woman.
He didn’t want to break up with anyone, and all of them refused to ‘give up’ so now (10 years after cheating) he has two relationships - the triad, the “new” one, two houses, and now a kid with each woman.He looks and acts sort of like a grown up version of Max from A Goofy Movie (Goofy’s son), is still ‘fixing’ the muscle car he bought in his college years, and has a 99% complete collection of every edition of Playboy magazine.
But to answer your question of what a guy with 3 (or more) wives should look like? Bill Paxton, circa 2011.
My sister-in-law has two moms and a dad, all living together in a stable relationship for more than 40 years. The kids are a Brady Bunch-style grouping as well.
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I honestly don’t understand what you’re asking of me. Women having equal rights is a binary thing, they either do or don’t.
I'm asking you to trade in your blunt instrument for something that can actually affect change. If you just want to shout mindless rhetoric from the rooftops, that's fine. It's just not going to change anyone's minds.
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I'm asking you to trade in your blunt instrument for something that can actually affect change. If you just want to shout mindless rhetoric from the rooftops, that's fine. It's just not going to change anyone's minds.
Can you provide an example of what you would like me to say here?
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Can you provide an example of what you would like me to say here?
Expound upon your point. You want equality for women, what does that mean for you? Does it mean blanket bans of patriarchal polygamy or blanket bans of Islam? Cause your initial case implies the latter, with the former more a vapid excuse for it.
Have an opinion and not just a talking point. No topic is ever truly explained by a single sentence.
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The Japanese domestic market?
Gotta mod dad
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Polyphony?
Sounds good
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Is the main objection to polygamy that having multiple sex partners is immoral or that the whole arrangement is subjugation of women (because usually it's multiple wives not husbands), or some other reason?
If someone supports gay marriage they have no basis for opposing polygamist or incestuous marriages outside of how it subjectively makes them feel. Marriage is historically a religio-cultural institution. Without that context there can be no restrictions that don't also violate foundational secular values such as personal freedom. Secularity and modernism gatekeeping marriage is a hilarious mental gymnastics routine. These days marriage is just something to keep lawyers in business anyway. The government should just get out of the marriage business entirely at this point.
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Probably depends on who you ask. I'm polyamorous and I think in almost all cases where someone says polygamy and not polyamory they're engaging in an immoral power dynamic. My experience being poly though I'd say most people take offense to the multiple partners thing and polygamy is just what they're familiar with as a concept
It's not the multiple partners that are a problem in my opinion (You do you. Polyamory is not for me, but no hate), it's the many-to-one relationships. Even in cases where an immoral power dynamic doesn't exist, you're still setting up for societal shenanigans if it's consistently many women to men, or vice versa, which seems prudent to avoid.
That being said, monogamy in a legal sense has probably only persisted so long because involving more than 2 people would be a massive headache for the courts lol
Probably only works in countries where one "partner" has more rights than others.
