Based muslim child
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Do you agree? Really? Cause your intimation seems to be that anyone who doesn't agree with you 100% doesn't believe women should have equal rights.
You could expound on your point a bit more, but it'd probably take more than one sentence. Please try.
I honestly don’t understand what you’re asking of me. Women having equal rights is a binary thing, they either do or don’t.
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You do think that women should be able to marry more than one person? So above story wouldn't be a problem for you if one of the women had a husband and a wife?
From my personal experience a lot of muslim women do not consent to their husband havinv more than one wife (in Islam the woman has to consent), so it's something that happens only when the women agree to it.
It’s a complicated question to answer. Consent can’t be given under duress, and the rate of abuse in polygamous marriages is astoundingly high. If there was some magical way that the state could verify that everyone is consenting with a true option to say no without their life being ruined, that would be great. However having the state decide who can marry would go really poorly at some point. As a result, I think we’re left with the western status quo where we throw the baby out with the bath water and ban the whole thing. It’s kinda like how some people can be responsible handgun owners but others are murderers and the potential downsides are great enough that nobody gets the privilege. Same for selling cocaine.
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You're making a sweeping general statement.
Polygamy is just Polyamory taken to vows.
There is a problem with a lot of the people that practice polygamy in an unethical way, but not polygamy itself.There is a problem with a lot of the people that practice polygamy in an unethical way
That is what the person you responded to said. There is a problem with the cultural of polygamy here because it's done in an unethical way.
but not polygamy itself.
That is also what the person you replied to said. They clarified specifically that if both genders are free to practice polygamy in the same way there's no issue.
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"one to cook and one to clean" is one of the "joke-y" sayings I heard
Having been on some readings I had not picked up in a second recently, two to poison and be each other's alibi is what went thru my head first lol.
Nothing else to do with the thread. Just the first thought that went thru my head- any rat bastard that lives that shit deserves to be poisoned by both.
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Polyphony?
Didn't they make donkey kong?
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The Japanese domestic market?
Nah mate, Jack Della Maddalena obviously. He's gonna stuff the takedowns and piece islam up on the feet.
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I knew a guy who - about 20 years ago, slept with both women in a lesbian relationship. As in - they cheated on each other with him. And somehow they formed a workable triad out of that that was pretty darn stable for like 10 years. Until he got caught cheating on them (after months, apparently) with someone in their social group - a younger, monogamous, ‘party girl’-type woman.
He didn’t want to break up with anyone, and all of them refused to ‘give up’ so now (10 years after cheating) he has two relationships - the triad, the “new” one, two houses, and now a kid with each woman.He looks and acts sort of like a grown up version of Max from A Goofy Movie (Goofy’s son), is still ‘fixing’ the muscle car he bought in his college years, and has a 99% complete collection of every edition of Playboy magazine.
But to answer your question of what a guy with 3 (or more) wives should look like? Bill Paxton, circa 2011.
My sister-in-law has two moms and a dad, all living together in a stable relationship for more than 40 years. The kids are a Brady Bunch-style grouping as well.
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I honestly don’t understand what you’re asking of me. Women having equal rights is a binary thing, they either do or don’t.
I'm asking you to trade in your blunt instrument for something that can actually affect change. If you just want to shout mindless rhetoric from the rooftops, that's fine. It's just not going to change anyone's minds.
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I'm asking you to trade in your blunt instrument for something that can actually affect change. If you just want to shout mindless rhetoric from the rooftops, that's fine. It's just not going to change anyone's minds.
Can you provide an example of what you would like me to say here?
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Can you provide an example of what you would like me to say here?
Expound upon your point. You want equality for women, what does that mean for you? Does it mean blanket bans of patriarchal polygamy or blanket bans of Islam? Cause your initial case implies the latter, with the former more a vapid excuse for it.
Have an opinion and not just a talking point. No topic is ever truly explained by a single sentence.
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The Japanese domestic market?
Gotta mod dad
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Polyphony?
Sounds good
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Is the main objection to polygamy that having multiple sex partners is immoral or that the whole arrangement is subjugation of women (because usually it's multiple wives not husbands), or some other reason?
If someone supports gay marriage they have no basis for opposing polygamist or incestuous marriages outside of how it subjectively makes them feel. Marriage is historically a religio-cultural institution. Without that context there can be no restrictions that don't also violate foundational secular values such as personal freedom. Secularity and modernism gatekeeping marriage is a hilarious mental gymnastics routine. These days marriage is just something to keep lawyers in business anyway. The government should just get out of the marriage business entirely at this point.
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Probably depends on who you ask. I'm polyamorous and I think in almost all cases where someone says polygamy and not polyamory they're engaging in an immoral power dynamic. My experience being poly though I'd say most people take offense to the multiple partners thing and polygamy is just what they're familiar with as a concept
It's not the multiple partners that are a problem in my opinion (You do you. Polyamory is not for me, but no hate), it's the many-to-one relationships. Even in cases where an immoral power dynamic doesn't exist, you're still setting up for societal shenanigans if it's consistently many women to men, or vice versa, which seems prudent to avoid.
That being said, monogamy in a legal sense has probably only persisted so long because involving more than 2 people would be a massive headache for the courts lol
Probably only works in countries where one "partner" has more rights than others.
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The Japanese domestic market?
Good to know I wasn't the only one to think the same.
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Polyphony?
When your synthesizer can play more then one note at a time
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Thanks, I got the humor, what I'm wondering about is what's the predominant reason people in general object to polygamy, regardless of whether it's Islam or Mormons or whatever.
Just off top of my head.
Inheritance - no explanation needed.
personal time - hard to get quality time and Love is can be selfish.
Issues with accidental incest - my dad side loves cheating. I have lots of half siblings and cousins id never meet all over globe. One uncle had 15ish kids that he knew of. So I dont date my dad's race. Nope train.
The dating market - One less wife available for men leads to anger for those without one. This is why I was told gay men are more accepted in certain cultures than lesbians.
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A bit of both. The Greeks and Romans had a cultural taboo against polygamy which Christianity inherited, which means that Christians have historically been opposed to polygamy (which was not the case in Pre-christian northern Europe) on moral grounds. There is also the issue that historically polygamy has been associated with patriarchal societies in which men are allowed or expected to have multiple wives, but women are not allowed to do the same. Additionally, it is also culturally associated with treating women as property of the husband. Personally I don't have any issue with polygamy if everyone is free to do whatever but the way most cultures practice it, it's unfair to women. Then again, that could also he said of "traditional" marriage in a lot of monogamous scenarios too.
These days there is also a tax reason why you can't marry multiple people. It would have a fair amount of tax negatives as well.
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Actually just has dead, wrapped up Egyptians in his basement.
I know a decent amount of weird historical facts to know that the looted corpses are usually stored in the attic in Europe. There is also a non zero chance that if you live in an old enough house in Europe there could still be a corpse in the attic.
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When your synthesizer can play more then one note at a time
I remember school when the first kid played polyphonic ring signals... Was revolutionary! So much noise
