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  • M [email protected]

    lol you think Democrats lead the revolution.

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    My entire point was that they weren't doing so ...

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      Islam is not a monolithic platonic form, it's the ideas of the people who call themselves Muslim. As people they deserve to be free from bigotry based on their innate characteristics. If you only allow for groups to be uplifted if they're perfect and free from sin, you will always be able to find fault and reason to continue oppression.

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      Islam is not a monolithic platonic form,

      How about American Christianity or Orthodox Judaism?

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      • M [email protected]

        Because you're so fucking obtuse that you confuse the book with the religion, no one knows how to explain this shit to someone this fucking dense.

        Edit: educate yourself on where the current extreme homophobia in the middle east is coming from

        The first is the influence, directly or indirectly, of European powers in the region. In 1885 the British government introduced new penal codes that punished all homosexual behaviour. Of the more than 70 countries that criminalise homosexual acts today, over half are former British colonies. France introduced similar laws around the same time.

        https://www.economist.com/open-future/2018/06/06/how-homosexuality-became-a-crime-in-the-middle-east

        or more carefully studied in one instance here: https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/comparative-studies-in-society-and-history/article/homophobic-muslims-emerging-trends-in-multireligious-singapore/2B06C99F6DB951C400B24AC82C5BF2A9

        the tl;dr is the current severity of the persecution of LGBTQ+ people in muslim countries stems from europe. Not from Islam. Because the stance of one of the largest religions, that is 1200 years old, on any topic has not and never will be as uniquely and clearly defined as you think it is.

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        1885 was 140 years ago.

        Many of these countries have been independent for at least 70 years.

        Why do they still have homophobic British laws?

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          The law means nothing at this point

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          Yep, it's now pure power. Power dictates what happens and what doesn't.

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          • M [email protected]

            Middle Easterners deserve every bit of my sympathy

            Jesus fuck talk about western chauvinism

            for being unintentionally associated with that bullshit

            Guess how many MidDle EasTerneRs are muslim? Also what about north africans? Central and south east asian people? Do you know how LARGE a group muslims are? That statistically there must be 100s of millions of gay muslims?? Quit with this Muslim=arab=Middle easterner="cishet brown person in a police state" bullshit, its racist.

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            How many gay Southern Baptists are there? They might be in the 10 000s.

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              1885 was 140 years ago.

              Many of these countries have been independent for at least 70 years.

              Why do they still have homophobic British laws?

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              Read the paragraph after

              Second, the rise of Islamic fundamentalism in the 1980s coincided with that of the gay-rights movement in America and Europe, hardening cultural differences. Once homosexuality had become associated with the West, politicians were able to manipulate anti-LGBT feelings for their personal gain.

              so it again traces back to the western powers who keep funding islamic fundamentalism as well as the population having such animosity towards the west because of what we did to them that politicians over there can just point at something, call it western, and people automatically assume it's bad.

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                How many gay Southern Baptists are there? They might be in the 10 000s.

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                Yes every muslim across time and space is just like an american fundamentalist from today. You are a very smart person.

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                  Yep, it's now pure power. Power dictates what happens and what doesn't.

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                  Always has been.

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                  • M [email protected]

                    Yes every muslim across time and space is just like an american fundamentalist from today. You are a very smart person.

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                    The ones in power and a majority of the adherents seem to be.

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                    • M [email protected]

                      lol you think Democrats lead the revolution.

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                      They do their part.

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                      • ademir@lemmy.eco.brA [email protected]

                        Always has been.

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                        True, but there was a layer of law below it. So there was at least some documented consistent process for which power was used for the most part. Now it's pretty much anything goes.

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                          Lol you didn't pay attention in history

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                          Fun fact: We aren't living in the past. Modern Democrats have PROVED that they will not stand up to fascism.

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                            They do their part.

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                            Yes, they do their part to help Republicans Waltz the US ever rightward.

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                            • D [email protected]

                              True, but there was a layer of law below it. So there was at least some documented consistent process for which power was used for the most part. Now it's pretty much anything goes.

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                              I see what you mean, I agree with you.

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