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  • haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.comH [email protected]

    You didnt need to prove my point that fast but okay. Thanks i guess.

    Did your country print you the "certified centrist" barcode in your neck yet? 😄

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    #55

    What's that supposed to mean?

    I reject imperalism, I recognize state influence on media (especially in authoritarian nations) is a major threat to society, billionaires are a cancer, and everyone deserves their basic needs met.

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      Wait, you mean north America Americans?

      Because I'm pretty certain there was much more people than that yesterday in the whole continent of America.

      Now, if you mean less than 1.4% of the North Americans, well that might as well be but then again, that's peanuts against the voting population...

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      If he meant north america, then Mexicans would also be protesting?

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        Wait, you mean north America Americans?

        Because I'm pretty certain there was much more people than that yesterday in the whole continent of America.

        Now, if you mean less than 1.4% of the North Americans, well that might as well be but then again, that's peanuts against the voting population...

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        #57

        Fuck off with this pedantry, it's such a white liberal guilt thing to get up in arms about. I've heard of literally no one from Canada, Central, or South America referring to themselves as "American". They identify by their nationality, as we do with ours.

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          What's that supposed to mean?

          I reject imperalism, I recognize state influence on media (especially in authoritarian nations) is a major threat to society, billionaires are a cancer, and everyone deserves their basic needs met.

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          Because you're drinking the koolaid of so called democracies while thinking they're not killing millions of people for profit. What do you think the people do that mine the stuff for your phones, the people around the mines, the people who live near oil extraction.

          Capitalist nations are the greater evil by a huge margin. They kill as many people in three years as all socialist countries in the world ever did.

          Please read something that is not imperialist media. Its really easy to understand. Capitalism is evil.

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            discussion was over before it began man

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            Good you admit it. Nice life.

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            • akasazh@feddit.nlA [email protected]

              but mixing the two is just stupid.

              I know, it just doesn't feel reich.

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              Take your god damned upvote

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                Expect this from corpo-slop. This is New America, where all legacy media bent to threats from a despot instead of doing their fucking jobs. They're complicit, and they should be standing next to this admin against the wall after the fallout.

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                This is New America, where all legacy media bent to threats from a despot instead of doing their fucking jobs. They're complicit

                Buddy have you every read a history book in your life? This isnt new at all

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                • haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.comH [email protected]

                  Because you're drinking the koolaid of so called democracies while thinking they're not killing millions of people for profit. What do you think the people do that mine the stuff for your phones, the people around the mines, the people who live near oil extraction.

                  Capitalist nations are the greater evil by a huge margin. They kill as many people in three years as all socialist countries in the world ever did.

                  Please read something that is not imperialist media. Its really easy to understand. Capitalism is evil.

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                  #62

                  Give some examples of non imperialist media and nations that we should aspire towards.

                  I understand the devistation of nickle, cobalt, and other mines and recently spent several months in countries around their main sources in SEA. I've lived in China for a few years, and I currently live in a country formerly under communist control.

                  I think you are dreaming about an ideal that doesn't actually exist. There are attrocities across the board.

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                    If he meant north america, then Mexicans would also be protesting?

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                    To be fair, there were registered No Kings events in Mexico and parts of South America, as well as Europe and Canada.

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                      WSJ reported "tens of thousands" attending trumps parade which was the most honest thing I've seen from major papers. then next sentence was "hundreds of thousands" attending the no kings protests. While that is technically true, it misrepresenta the 5 million who protested across the country and felt like a concession to not make trump's birthday parade look as bad.

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                      trump's birthday parade

                      Me looking on from the provinces: did sum real "our dear leader" shit.

                      I know we won't, but I really hope we can diversify our security partners somewhat (Australia).

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                      • haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.comH [email protected]

                        Good you admit it. Nice life.

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                        "ADMIT IT!!" man you are so fixated on finger pointing, that's why we can't talk to you. as if discussion is a one way street.

                        but I wanted to at least clarify that intending to get upset doesn't equate to bad intentions. it just doesn't make for good discussion.

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                          Almost like peaceful protests can be ignored by capital owners or politicians.

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                          they were suspicious not mentioned on most MSMs at all, instead they were focused on the coincidence occuration of israels attack on iran at the same time, and the assasinations of the Dems to distract from.

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                            They also work in France because all of those people can very reasonably gather in one place, which isn't feasible for the US

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                            Not all of France is Paris either. This is just one of those excuses not to do anything.

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                              Expect this from corpo-slop. This is New America, where all legacy media bent to threats from a despot instead of doing their fucking jobs. They're complicit, and they should be standing next to this admin against the wall after the fallout.

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                              the msms owners are mostly trump supporters. besides obvious fox, cnn was the template to make it foxlite to trick would be boomers/xers on the fence politically, but not intuitively to actually verify said news.

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                                The revolution will not be televised

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                                it was pretty clear how fast they try to steer of away from bad news making class issues more prominent, when luigi news was suppressed just after 2 weeks of his capture. on reddit, before i came to lemmy, last dec reddit was trying very hard to suppress posts about him, and tried to bombard the msms with trump only news.

                                because the less attention that trump gets on the air, the more people are going to realize he doesnt really do anything without being on air.

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                                • misterfrog@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                                  trump's birthday parade

                                  Me looking on from the provinces: did sum real "our dear leader" shit.

                                  I know we won't, but I really hope we can diversify our security partners somewhat (Australia).

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                                  You might want to have another chat with France.

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                                    Protests are successful in places like France because they carry with them the implicit threat that the elites will sonner or later have their heads separated from their shoulders if they don't address the concerns of the rest of the population.

                                    Meanwhile in the US there is not even the risk of the economic damage of a General Strike, much less of the physical integrity of those who actually control how the country is managed.

                                    Several million Americans walking around in their own time holding boards decrying the current puppet of the elites ain't going to scare the elites into letting go of some of their power.

                                    The murder by a single individual of a Healthcare Insurance company CEO had more concrete impact than this march of millions of Americans ever will.

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                                    thats why they worked very quickly to suppress news about luigi, it also took them a month to come out with a way to propagandize against him.

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                                      Give some examples of non imperialist media and nations that we should aspire towards.

                                      I understand the devistation of nickle, cobalt, and other mines and recently spent several months in countries around their main sources in SEA. I've lived in China for a few years, and I currently live in a country formerly under communist control.

                                      I think you are dreaming about an ideal that doesn't actually exist. There are attrocities across the board.

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                                      Men make their own history, but they do not make it just as they please; they do not make it under circumstances chosen by themselves, but under circumstances directly encountered, given and transmitted from the past. The tradition of all the dead generations weighs like a nightmare on the brain of the living.

                                      I would agree no country is perfect with regards to being completely anti-imperialist. All nation-states have an interest in building empire.

                                      Having said that just because we live in a world that incentives competition between nation-states, that does not mean the world as is, is inevitable or eternal. Just because an ideal doesn’t exist, doesn’t mean it’s not an ideal worth striving for. Things can change and it is worth striving towards a world with better human relations.

                                      Having said that, some examples of more positive relations do exist.

                                      One could point to the international healthcare initiatives from Cuba as a positive example of non-imperialist relations to aspire towards.

                                      While China is far from perfect, they have made small positive steps with the Belt and Road Initiative by offering better terms to developing countries than historical international investments initiatives such as the IMF and the World Bank. If leaders in western liberal democracies want to compete with China and offer developing countries terms with even better environmental and labor standards for mining operations or otherwise; I view that as an unmitigated win for human relations.

                                      Unfortunately, from where I’m sitting, it seems like leaders in western liberal democracies are more interested in competing with China in military terms rather than in labor or environmental terms.

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                                        Expect this from corpo-slop. This is New America, where all legacy media bent to threats from a despot instead of doing their fucking jobs. They're complicit, and they should be standing next to this admin against the wall after the fallout.

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                                        William Fox (who was a monumental bastard of the highest order) went to prison in the 1940s because he thought FDR would allow him to monopolize the film industry in return for helping to convince Americans to join the war effort. Fox founded the March of Dimes. Yes, that was the original "Fox News" I guess you could say.

                                        So what's happening isn't the new America, it's the old America with the worst possible person in charge. Ever since I could vote, I've been voting for FDR even though I know that's not what I'm going to get. If anything good comes out of this disaster, it will be that an Obama-like figure (I don't give a shit what anybody thinks of him, he was objectively a very good president and historians will remember him as such) will win an election and be able to get things done with an FDR-like mandate. Trump has really opened the hatches for all kinds of horrible backlash.

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                                          "ADMIT IT!!" man you are so fixated on finger pointing, that's why we can't talk to you. as if discussion is a one way street.

                                          but I wanted to at least clarify that intending to get upset doesn't equate to bad intentions. it just doesn't make for good discussion.

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                                          Haha did i trigger you by any chance?

                                          You're so fixated on misunderstanding me that you dont get your own mistake. I'm just not willing to help because i am over you being condescending.

                                          Good luck with that attitude.

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