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    National Socialists or just fascists in general?

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    Nazis for Spain is bit of a joke. Franco wanted to suck up to Hitler who put Belgium, Netherlands, and France on German time when he conquered them.

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      Nazis for Spain is bit of a joke. Franco wanted to suck up to Hitler who put Belgium, Netherlands, and France on German time when he conquered them.

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      Close enough, then. Not just fascism, Nazis. Even if the Nazis weren't directly in power, it sounds like they are in the causal chain for the timezone being so much different from solar time. Thanks for the clarification / confirmation.

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      • fristislurper@feddit.nlF [email protected]

        I agree with your timings, but Spain has an obesity rate of over 20%, so I would say seldom is a serious underestimation.

        Also, Spain is not a mystical domain filled with elves, of course people are lazy, over-eat, and snack in excess. They are human after all.

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        Also, Spain is not a mystical domain filled with elves

        Eh, Disneyland, walkable European city -- same difference!

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          There's two reasons for those hours.

          1. Timezones, as mentioned by several people here, you can mentally remove 1 hour for it to make more sense, Portugal is right next to us and their times make a little bit more sense. That doesn't justify all the numbers shown though, and that because...
          2. They are fucking made up. Maybe if you didn't go to touristic hubs you would find more normal timetables. Work starts at 8 so breakfast joints open at 7 if early, people eat at 2, they have dinner from 8 to 9, 10 if it's eating out. At 11 people are preparing to go to bed in most of the country.

          We do have family lunches and dinners occasionally, but that's not an everyday thing, not even a weekly thing. Maybe a yearly thing. Sorry for not having huge houses and doing them at restaurants I guess?

          Restaurants stop serving around 4 and start again after 7-8 because they need to clean between the lunch and dinner service. Wild concept I know. Also it's not feasible to keep the kitchen staff there when nobody goes to eat.

          The way you present the country is pretty racist to say the least.

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          What does race have to do with anything said? Is Spanish (or Spaniard idk what's correct) a race?

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            Spaniard here.

            School starts at 9. Work can vary, but 8-9 is common.
            Typical breakfast is coffee and a pastry, but some people will have something savory instead. Not the most common, though.

            Lunch is at 2pm. Restaurants usually take customers from 1 to 3.30 pm. If you have lunch at home, a proper meal is in order, but lately, less and less people can do this. So snacking for lunch during work days is becoming more common, sadly.

            Dinner is at 9pm but there is a tendency to move this earlier, particularly when eating at home on work days. Restaurants take customers from 8 to 10pm, and a dinner out can last until past midnight.

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            What's interesting is that Spain's colony Mexico has similar meal times, but the big meal is at about 3pm, and the evening meal is just a snack that many people will skip.

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              What does race have to do with anything said? Is Spanish (or Spaniard idk what's correct) a race?

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              It's not only not a race, the whole thing is not even negative. It's a clear example of "everything I personally don't like is racism".

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                Siestas are the one thing I miss back in the time I worked in a country that observed them. Nothing better than having a cup of coffee after lunch, taking a quick nap after, and waking up just in time for the caffeine to kick in. If I do that at my work now, I’sd probably be fired for sleeping on the job.

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                Plot twist: they're a bus driver.

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                  One Summer we went to Spain before the DST issue got solved and because after arriving in Madrid it was 43° C we told ourselves "we'll get up earlier and have a stroll around the city at 6am so it's fresh" - it was DARK for hours 😂

                  Me and friends were joking about it was the country for those vampire movies where the night never ends

                  On the other side, those evenings with still a bit of sun at 10pm were awesome

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                    Sounds perfect. A nation free of oppressive morning people.

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                      There's two reasons for those hours.

                      1. Timezones, as mentioned by several people here, you can mentally remove 1 hour for it to make more sense, Portugal is right next to us and their times make a little bit more sense. That doesn't justify all the numbers shown though, and that because...
                      2. They are fucking made up. Maybe if you didn't go to touristic hubs you would find more normal timetables. Work starts at 8 so breakfast joints open at 7 if early, people eat at 2, they have dinner from 8 to 9, 10 if it's eating out. At 11 people are preparing to go to bed in most of the country.

                      We do have family lunches and dinners occasionally, but that's not an everyday thing, not even a weekly thing. Maybe a yearly thing. Sorry for not having huge houses and doing them at restaurants I guess?

                      Restaurants stop serving around 4 and start again after 7-8 because they need to clean between the lunch and dinner service. Wild concept I know. Also it's not feasible to keep the kitchen staff there when nobody goes to eat.

                      The way you present the country is pretty racist to say the least.

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                      The way you present the country is pretty racist to say the least.

                      Dafuq?

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                        We spent some time in Italy in the summer about fifteen years ago, and you genuinely had to be careful which cities you visited at which times because entire cities would go on vacation at the same time. We went to Bologna at the wrong time apparently because almost everything was closed except for a few things around the train station. While it was kind of nice having the place to ourselves and wandering the parks, it also sucked to have to eat convenience store food. Coming from a place where almost everything is open year round, 24 hours a day, it was wild.

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                          The way you present the country is pretty racist to say the least.

                          Dafuq?

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                          It presents the ever famous image of "lazy Spaniards don't work and have lazy hours.nothing is open ever". That's racist.

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                          • F [email protected]

                            It presents the ever famous image of "lazy Spaniards don't work and have lazy hours.nothing is open ever". That's racist.

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                            Lmao. You need to learn what racist means.

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                              The way you present the country is pretty racist to say the least.

                              Dafuq?

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                              Iberianophobia?!

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                                It presents the ever famous image of "lazy Spaniards don't work and have lazy hours.nothing is open ever". That's racist.

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                                It's definitelly Prejudice, and since it's based on nationality rather than on race, it's not by definition Racism (which is the latter kind).

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                                  There's two reasons for those hours.

                                  1. Timezones, as mentioned by several people here, you can mentally remove 1 hour for it to make more sense, Portugal is right next to us and their times make a little bit more sense. That doesn't justify all the numbers shown though, and that because...
                                  2. They are fucking made up. Maybe if you didn't go to touristic hubs you would find more normal timetables. Work starts at 8 so breakfast joints open at 7 if early, people eat at 2, they have dinner from 8 to 9, 10 if it's eating out. At 11 people are preparing to go to bed in most of the country.

                                  We do have family lunches and dinners occasionally, but that's not an everyday thing, not even a weekly thing. Maybe a yearly thing. Sorry for not having huge houses and doing them at restaurants I guess?

                                  Restaurants stop serving around 4 and start again after 7-8 because they need to clean between the lunch and dinner service. Wild concept I know. Also it's not feasible to keep the kitchen staff there when nobody goes to eat.

                                  The way you present the country is pretty racist to say the least.

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                                  I actually upvoted before reading the last sentence.
                                  Then I read the last sentence

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                                  • F [email protected]

                                    There's two reasons for those hours.

                                    1. Timezones, as mentioned by several people here, you can mentally remove 1 hour for it to make more sense, Portugal is right next to us and their times make a little bit more sense. That doesn't justify all the numbers shown though, and that because...
                                    2. They are fucking made up. Maybe if you didn't go to touristic hubs you would find more normal timetables. Work starts at 8 so breakfast joints open at 7 if early, people eat at 2, they have dinner from 8 to 9, 10 if it's eating out. At 11 people are preparing to go to bed in most of the country.

                                    We do have family lunches and dinners occasionally, but that's not an everyday thing, not even a weekly thing. Maybe a yearly thing. Sorry for not having huge houses and doing them at restaurants I guess?

                                    Restaurants stop serving around 4 and start again after 7-8 because they need to clean between the lunch and dinner service. Wild concept I know. Also it's not feasible to keep the kitchen staff there when nobody goes to eat.

                                    The way you present the country is pretty racist to say the least.

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                                    Also hot weather means you eat later. You can see that comparing say Germany and Italy.

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                                      It's definitelly Prejudice, and since it's based on nationality rather than on race, it's not by definition Racism (which is the latter kind).

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                                      If racisms would be based on race then there would be no racism as we are all one race, the human race.

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                                        One Summer we went to Spain before the DST issue got solved and because after arriving in Madrid it was 43° C we told ourselves "we'll get up earlier and have a stroll around the city at 6am so it's fresh" - it was DARK for hours 😂

                                        Me and friends were joking about it was the country for those vampire movies where the night never ends

                                        On the other side, those evenings with still a bit of sun at 10pm were awesome

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                                        Spain is quite far in the west of a too big timzone. In the summertime the solar noon in Madrid should be around 2:15 pm.

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                                          If racisms would be based on race then there would be no racism as we are all one race, the human race.

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                                          Two points:

                                          • Sadly, in the minds of most people there are several physical characteristics which they see as making people different, so de facto there are various races because most people mentaly divide mankind into such partitions. Good that you don't, but you yourself don't get to deny that a certain way of viewing others that most of people hold exists, just because you don't like or share it.
                                          • Raceism (or in Spanish Racismo) - literally has no meaning if it's root word, Race (or Raza), has no meaning.

                                          Your "argument" is both egotistic and illogical.

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