Spain is not a real place
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There's two reasons for those hours.
- Timezones, as mentioned by several people here, you can mentally remove 1 hour for it to make more sense, Portugal is right next to us and their times make a little bit more sense. That doesn't justify all the numbers shown though, and that because...
- They are fucking made up. Maybe if you didn't go to touristic hubs you would find more normal timetables. Work starts at 8 so breakfast joints open at 7 if early, people eat at 2, they have dinner from 8 to 9, 10 if it's eating out. At 11 people are preparing to go to bed in most of the country.
We do have family lunches and dinners occasionally, but that's not an everyday thing, not even a weekly thing. Maybe a yearly thing. Sorry for not having huge houses and doing them at restaurants I guess?
Restaurants stop serving around 4 and start again after 7-8 because they need to clean between the lunch and dinner service. Wild concept I know. Also it's not feasible to keep the kitchen staff there when nobody goes to eat.
The way you present the country is pretty racist to say the least.
The way you present the country is pretty racist to say the least.
Dafuq?
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We spent some time in Italy in the summer about fifteen years ago, and you genuinely had to be careful which cities you visited at which times because entire cities would go on vacation at the same time. We went to Bologna at the wrong time apparently because almost everything was closed except for a few things around the train station. While it was kind of nice having the place to ourselves and wandering the parks, it also sucked to have to eat convenience store food. Coming from a place where almost everything is open year round, 24 hours a day, it was wild.
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The way you present the country is pretty racist to say the least.
Dafuq?
It presents the ever famous image of "lazy Spaniards don't work and have lazy hours.nothing is open ever". That's racist.
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It presents the ever famous image of "lazy Spaniards don't work and have lazy hours.nothing is open ever". That's racist.
Lmao. You need to learn what racist means.
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The way you present the country is pretty racist to say the least.
Dafuq?
Iberianophobia?!
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It presents the ever famous image of "lazy Spaniards don't work and have lazy hours.nothing is open ever". That's racist.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]It's definitelly Prejudice, and since it's based on nationality rather than on race, it's not by definition Racism (which is the latter kind).
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There's two reasons for those hours.
- Timezones, as mentioned by several people here, you can mentally remove 1 hour for it to make more sense, Portugal is right next to us and their times make a little bit more sense. That doesn't justify all the numbers shown though, and that because...
- They are fucking made up. Maybe if you didn't go to touristic hubs you would find more normal timetables. Work starts at 8 so breakfast joints open at 7 if early, people eat at 2, they have dinner from 8 to 9, 10 if it's eating out. At 11 people are preparing to go to bed in most of the country.
We do have family lunches and dinners occasionally, but that's not an everyday thing, not even a weekly thing. Maybe a yearly thing. Sorry for not having huge houses and doing them at restaurants I guess?
Restaurants stop serving around 4 and start again after 7-8 because they need to clean between the lunch and dinner service. Wild concept I know. Also it's not feasible to keep the kitchen staff there when nobody goes to eat.
The way you present the country is pretty racist to say the least.
I actually upvoted before reading the last sentence.
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There's two reasons for those hours.
- Timezones, as mentioned by several people here, you can mentally remove 1 hour for it to make more sense, Portugal is right next to us and their times make a little bit more sense. That doesn't justify all the numbers shown though, and that because...
- They are fucking made up. Maybe if you didn't go to touristic hubs you would find more normal timetables. Work starts at 8 so breakfast joints open at 7 if early, people eat at 2, they have dinner from 8 to 9, 10 if it's eating out. At 11 people are preparing to go to bed in most of the country.
We do have family lunches and dinners occasionally, but that's not an everyday thing, not even a weekly thing. Maybe a yearly thing. Sorry for not having huge houses and doing them at restaurants I guess?
Restaurants stop serving around 4 and start again after 7-8 because they need to clean between the lunch and dinner service. Wild concept I know. Also it's not feasible to keep the kitchen staff there when nobody goes to eat.
The way you present the country is pretty racist to say the least.
Also hot weather means you eat later. You can see that comparing say Germany and Italy.
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It's definitelly Prejudice, and since it's based on nationality rather than on race, it's not by definition Racism (which is the latter kind).
If racisms would be based on race then there would be no racism as we are all one race, the human race.
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One Summer we went to Spain before the DST issue got solved and because after arriving in Madrid it was 43° C we told ourselves "we'll get up earlier and have a stroll around the city at 6am so it's fresh" - it was DARK for hours
Me and friends were joking about it was the country for those vampire movies where the night never ends
On the other side, those evenings with still a bit of sun at 10pm were awesome
Spain is quite far in the west of a too big timzone. In the summertime the solar noon in Madrid should be around 2:15 pm.
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If racisms would be based on race then there would be no racism as we are all one race, the human race.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Two points:
- Sadly, in the minds of most people there are several physical characteristics which they see as making people different, so de facto there are various races because most people mentaly divide mankind into such partitions. Good that you don't, but you yourself don't get to deny that a certain way of viewing others that most of people hold exists, just because you don't like or share it.
- Raceism (or in Spanish Racismo) - literally has no meaning if it's root word, Race (or Raza), has no meaning.
Your "argument" is both egotistic and illogical.
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Two points:
- Sadly, in the minds of most people there are several physical characteristics which they see as making people different, so de facto there are various races because most people mentaly divide mankind into such partitions. Good that you don't, but you yourself don't get to deny that a certain way of viewing others that most of people hold exists, just because you don't like or share it.
- Raceism (or in Spanish Racismo) - literally has no meaning if it's root word, Race (or Raza), has no meaning.
Your "argument" is both egotistic and illogical.
My point is that people equate nationality to a race. So when they are talking negative about a nationality they are indeed racist by the standart of common speech.
If we get scientific and say people are only racist when they talk negative about a race, then the thing falls apart because there is just the human race.
I'm arguing that not just physical appearance is a race in the minds of people, as you say, but nationality too.
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I find this rather hard to believe. Particularly in the south of Spain by 1:00 p.m it's unbearably hot, everyone wants to get everything done in the morning so they don't have to be trying to do it during the height of the days heat.
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Spain is quite far in the west of a too big timzone. In the summertime the solar noon in Madrid should be around 2:15 pm.
They aligned their timezone to Germany to make Hitler happy. Seriously.
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One Summer we went to Spain before the DST issue got solved and because after arriving in Madrid it was 43° C we told ourselves "we'll get up earlier and have a stroll around the city at 6am so it's fresh" - it was DARK for hours
Me and friends were joking about it was the country for those vampire movies where the night never ends
On the other side, those evenings with still a bit of sun at 10pm were awesome
On the other side, those evenings with still a bit of sun at 10pm were awesome
I love Spanish timezone. During summer it gets bright right when you wake up and you get 5-6h of daylight after work. There's time to go for a bike ride or for a hike or spend couple hours in the sun at the beach. In the middle of the week!
In comparison in Poland the day is longer but it gets bright at 4-5AM and it gets dark about one hour earlier.
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It's definitelly Prejudice, and since it's based on nationality rather than on race, it's not by definition Racism (which is the latter kind).
wrote on last edited by [email protected]But it is based on race, just an older definition of race. There was a time when southern Europeans were classified as the "olive race". In the bollocks scientific racist hierarchies of the time, that put them below the Aryans, but above the Semites and the blacks. The Nordicist racists of course considered themselves the apex, and looked down on the rest. In the US you guys still remember how the Irish, the Italians, the Greeks, the Poles, the Jews, were very slowly integrated into the category of White, meaning they were not always considered White.
The caricatures of the lazy southerners are indeed racist stereotypes of this past era and to claim that they do not persist in the modern era is kind of weird, seeing how so many other racist stereotypes persist.
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What does race have to do with anything said? Is Spanish (or Spaniard idk what's correct) a race?
Light-skinned people are not a race either and they still treat people with darker skin as if they belonged to a different race.
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I find this rather hard to believe. Particularly in the south of Spain by 1:00 p.m it's unbearably hot, everyone wants to get everything done in the morning so they don't have to be trying to do it during the height of the days heat.
Because it is simply not true
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But it is based on race, just an older definition of race. There was a time when southern Europeans were classified as the "olive race". In the bollocks scientific racist hierarchies of the time, that put them below the Aryans, but above the Semites and the blacks. The Nordicist racists of course considered themselves the apex, and looked down on the rest. In the US you guys still remember how the Irish, the Italians, the Greeks, the Poles, the Jews, were very slowly integrated into the category of White, meaning they were not always considered White.
The caricatures of the lazy southerners are indeed racist stereotypes of this past era and to claim that they do not persist in the modern era is kind of weird, seeing how so many other racist stereotypes persist.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Yeah, ok, there are Prejudices around Southern Europeans in general and those are on something other than a specific nationality, though whether or not it adds up to Racial Prejudice rather than Cultural Prejudice is unclear.
I can tell you you that as a Southern European I was an actual victim of Prejudice at times when living in Britain, but only when people actually knew were I came from, since they couldn't actually tell I was from Southern Europe merelly by how I looked or even from the way I spoke (because I had lived in a Northern European country for almost a decade before Britain and had an unusual accent).
Personally, I never felt it was because the way I looked (I easilly passed for English) and instead it was entirelly down to were I grew up in and, interestingly, if I mentioned the years I had spent living in a different country in Northern Europe, those prejudiced expections would normally go away.
That said, I knew of people from my country in Britain who are mixed race and the kind of prejudice they got was very different (and way worse), so maybe there is at least some racial component (i.e. the way they see White Portuguese is different from the way the see Black or Mixed-race Portuguese) in it, but maybe not in the direction the previous poster thinks - it seems to me that Whites only get Cultural Prejudiced whilst those who are Mixed-race and Black get Racist Prejudice.
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I find this rather hard to believe. Particularly in the south of Spain by 1:00 p.m it's unbearably hot, everyone wants to get everything done in the morning so they don't have to be trying to do it during the height of the days heat.
I guess it is supposed to be a joke, or meme. But it is pretty unfunny.
It is just stupid.
