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Operation Narnia: Iran’s nuclear scientists reportedly killed simultaneously using special weapon

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    The nuclear scientists were killed using a special weapon whose details were barred from publication, Channel 12 says.

    The 10th nuclear scientist was killed shortly after the other nine, as part of the overnight Thursday-Friday Israeli operation, which included strikes on Iran’s ballistic missile program and the Natanz nuclear site, along with the elimination of top members of the Islamic Republic’s military leadership, the network says.

    The nuclear scientists were all killed while they were sleeping in their beds, with Israel deciding to carry out the assassinations simultaneously so that there wouldn’t be time to tip off those being targeted.

    The scientists apparently believed they were safe from such targeting in their homes, a senior Israeli official tells Channel 12, noting that previously assassinated nuclear scientists were killed while heading to their cars after work.

    Israel had been tracking Iranian nuclear scientists for years and the ten killed last week were marked for assassination in November of last year, Channel 12 says.

    Just when I feel like dystopian news can't really disturb me anymore...

    Leaving this totally unrelated article about Palantir and Israel here for absolutely no reason at all...

    How Israel Uses AI in Gaza—And What It Might Mean for the Future of Warfare:

    A program known as “The Gospel” generates suggestions for buildings and structures militants may be operating in. “Lavender” is programmed to identify suspected members of Hamas and other armed groups for assassination, from commanders all the way down to foot soldiers. “Where’s Daddy?” reportedly follows their movements by tracking their phones in order to target them—often to their homes, where their presence is regarded as confirmation of their identity. The air strike that follows might kill everyone in the target's family, if not everyone in the apartment building.

    Abraham, whose report relies on conversations with six Israeli intelligence officers with first-hand experience in Gaza operations after Oct. 7, quoted targeting officers as saying they found themselves deferring to the Lavender program, despite knowing that it produces incorrect targeting suggestions in roughly 10% of cases.

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    1. what a stupid fucking name
    2. why does Israel get to have nuclear weapons
    3. why does no one ask question 2
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      According to the IAEA, the Natanz site was producing uranium enriched to 60% u-235.

      For electricity, you need 3-5% u-235.

      That’s not an energy program, that’s a weapons program.

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      And it's on the IAEA to declare that they are indeed working on a weapons program, not speculation and assumption like yours.

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        Israel had been tracking Iranian nuclear scientists for years and the ten killed last week were marked for assassination in November of last year, Channel 12 says.

        This bit stood out to me. Israel has been planning this war since at least November of last year. Israel's current actions say this wasn't a simple "what if..." contingency plan that a government comes up with. This was a plan they were going to put into action soon. Makes it even more disgusting to me.

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        Have you never heard of zionism? This has been the plan for over a century.

        • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Israel
        • https://mepei.com/greater-israel-an-ongoing-expansion-plan-for-the-middle-east-and-north-africa/
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          This was clear since such a big and supposedly effective intelligence apparatus failed to stop or warn about the Hamas attack that gave Israel pretext to go full ethnic cleaning and warmongering.

          They knew, they allowed it, and paid a modest price in Israeli casualties to kickstart their plan. Also, Ukraine was attracting all the war funding, they couldn’t risk USA reducing their military allowance.

          I hate that USA is enabling them, and at the same time being hipocritical about wanting a peaceful solution. Cut their funding if you want to stop them. Freeze their assets like NATO did with Russia. Act, don’t talk.

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          I hate that USA is enabling them,

          USA is just as guilty as the genocidal cult, perhaps even more so. Somehow I have more sympathy for the brainwashed than the profiteering.

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          • sayjess@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

            I don’t see how that is naive at all. We prop Israel up. If the president calls Bibi and threatens to stop all aid, unless they imposed a ceasefire, it would happen. They have so much power, tech and weaponry because we give it to them. If we pointed the barrel of the most powerful military on earth at them, they would cease immediately.

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            This will never happen tho. People don't become president without complete subjugation to the hegemonic narrative (including zionism). Complete fantasy.

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              How is this all normal and ok?

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              Just listen to NPR. It's all good!!! smh.

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              • ivanafterall@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

                Except we're the purse, so if we truly oppose it, we can easily make it stop.

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                Money won't stop a genocidal cult from nuking the planet.

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option

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                  It's absolutely not okay, but since there will be no negative consequences for it whatsoever, it's the new normal. This is sadly what happens when laws are not enforced, and I'm not sure if anything even can be done anymore...

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                  Don't worry. "Laws" are being enforced all the time. It's just not the ones that you imagine.

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                    Insane that there are people who actually believe this shit.

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                    What part of that completely factual statement don't you believe?

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                      How is this all normal and ok?

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                      It should be normal. People helping an evil state get nukes, deserve to die. Unfortunately what's normal nowadays is sitting around fat and lazy and letting NK become a nuclear power.

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                      • ivanafterall@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

                        Why not, "and genocide is wrong in both cases," rather than, "and thus they're both okay?"

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                        Because USA will never admit its disgusting foundations on genocide, slavery, etc. They would rather jerk off dead enslavers and continue supporting genocide.

                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion

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                          Cell phones exploding?

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                          • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directed-energy_weapon
                          • https://www.wired.com/2009/11/israelis-want-a-pain-ray-of-their-own/
                          • https://www.theregister.com/2010/08/24/pain_ray_la_county_jail/
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                            Vibe warfare sounds like a terrible idea

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                            But oh so lucrative, and with a catchy phrase...

                            I see moneybags in this idea, wonder who will first make it a reality...

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                              This will never happen tho. People don't become president without complete subjugation to the hegemonic narrative (including zionism). Complete fantasy.

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                              Oh I never said it would happen. It will never happen.

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                                I have mixed feelings - Gaza clearly shows a "worse way" to do warfare, but that doesn't move the needle on how bad it is to say: "Welp, there's a 90% chance that somewhere in this building is somebody associated with a group that we don't like, so take it down tonight while everyone is home sleeping."

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                                The thing is, until someone actually faces any consequences in modern times for atrocities such as these; simply saying how bad they are has become meaningless.

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                                  1. what a stupid fucking name
                                  2. why does Israel get to have nuclear weapons
                                  3. why does no one ask question 2
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                                  Unfortunately the answer is pretty simple. The USA and Israel are best buddies and if the USA says their buddy can have a nuclear arsenal who is going to stand up and tell them otherwise?

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                                    1. what a stupid fucking name
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                                    3. why does no one ask question 2
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                                    Why does anyone get to have nuclear weapons?

                                    Because once you have them, who's going to try to take them away?

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                                      Bet it isn’t a refugee camp sized amount nor an entire city blocks worth though.

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                                      Are you ok with just accepting any innocent humans as collateral damage? Bc as far as slippery slopes go, accepting that is a fast track to dehumanization.

                                      I don't believe those scientists deserved to die, but even if you do, why did their spouses and children deserve to die too?

                                      Try to imagine you're the neighbor of that scientist. Good chance you've barely interacted with each other more than a passing nod of acknowledgement when you're coming and going from your home. Do you and your whole family deserve to die bc of proximity to a target?

                                      Apply that same question x all 10 scientists they killed. It almost makes the KGB targeting people with poison seem like humanitarian work by comparison.

                                      If these were your friends and family being killed by a foreign government while they slept in their beds, you would have to be a psychopath to just brush it off as necessary collateral damage.

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                                        Why does anyone get to have nuclear weapons?

                                        Because once you have them, who's going to try to take them away?

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                                        yeah but if Israel gets them the countries they keep bombing should also get to have them. the country that jerks off to 2A somehow doesn't think so.

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                                          state terror

                                          Yeah, the 'protocols of the elders of zion' larpers dont do anything else

                                          need to stop

                                          I think it's a few years late for purely negative action to be useful here.

                                          We let this get too far out of hand. The question is: glass some LARPers, or world war 3? If the former is not on the table, the latter is inevitable.

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                                          I think it's a few years late for purely negative action to be useful here.

                                          I actually disagree with that. If we end the flow of weapons and funding to Israel, we'd see a totally different behavior from Israel within the week.

                                          The question is: glass some LARPers, or world war 3? If the former is not on the table, the latter is inevitable.

                                          And this part, you're saying nuke them or else WW3? That rhetoric is as bad as theirs! If you can't think of any other solutions, then please, don't be part of the solution.

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