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Operation Narnia: Iran’s nuclear scientists reportedly killed simultaneously using special weapon

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  • teamassimilation@infosec.pubT [email protected]

    This was clear since such a big and supposedly effective intelligence apparatus failed to stop or warn about the Hamas attack that gave Israel pretext to go full ethnic cleaning and warmongering.

    They knew, they allowed it, and paid a modest price in Israeli casualties to kickstart their plan. Also, Ukraine was attracting all the war funding, they couldn’t risk USA reducing their military allowance.

    I hate that USA is enabling them, and at the same time being hipocritical about wanting a peaceful solution. Cut their funding if you want to stop them. Freeze their assets like NATO did with Russia. Act, don’t talk.

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    I hate that USA is enabling them,

    USA is just as guilty as the genocidal cult, perhaps even more so. Somehow I have more sympathy for the brainwashed than the profiteering.

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    • sayjess@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

      I don’t see how that is naive at all. We prop Israel up. If the president calls Bibi and threatens to stop all aid, unless they imposed a ceasefire, it would happen. They have so much power, tech and weaponry because we give it to them. If we pointed the barrel of the most powerful military on earth at them, they would cease immediately.

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      This will never happen tho. People don't become president without complete subjugation to the hegemonic narrative (including zionism). Complete fantasy.

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        How is this all normal and ok?

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        Just listen to NPR. It's all good!!! smh.

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        • ivanafterall@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

          Except we're the purse, so if we truly oppose it, we can easily make it stop.

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          Money won't stop a genocidal cult from nuking the planet.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option

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            It's absolutely not okay, but since there will be no negative consequences for it whatsoever, it's the new normal. This is sadly what happens when laws are not enforced, and I'm not sure if anything even can be done anymore...

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            Don't worry. "Laws" are being enforced all the time. It's just not the ones that you imagine.

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              Insane that there are people who actually believe this shit.

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              What part of that completely factual statement don't you believe?

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                How is this all normal and ok?

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                It should be normal. People helping an evil state get nukes, deserve to die. Unfortunately what's normal nowadays is sitting around fat and lazy and letting NK become a nuclear power.

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                • ivanafterall@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

                  Why not, "and genocide is wrong in both cases," rather than, "and thus they're both okay?"

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                  Because USA will never admit its disgusting foundations on genocide, slavery, etc. They would rather jerk off dead enslavers and continue supporting genocide.

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion

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                    Cell phones exploding?

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                    • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directed-energy_weapon
                    • https://www.wired.com/2009/11/israelis-want-a-pain-ray-of-their-own/
                    • https://www.theregister.com/2010/08/24/pain_ray_la_county_jail/
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                    • M [email protected]

                      Vibe warfare sounds like a terrible idea

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                      But oh so lucrative, and with a catchy phrase...

                      I see moneybags in this idea, wonder who will first make it a reality...

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                        This will never happen tho. People don't become president without complete subjugation to the hegemonic narrative (including zionism). Complete fantasy.

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                        Oh I never said it would happen. It will never happen.

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                        • M [email protected]

                          I have mixed feelings - Gaza clearly shows a "worse way" to do warfare, but that doesn't move the needle on how bad it is to say: "Welp, there's a 90% chance that somewhere in this building is somebody associated with a group that we don't like, so take it down tonight while everyone is home sleeping."

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                          The thing is, until someone actually faces any consequences in modern times for atrocities such as these; simply saying how bad they are has become meaningless.

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                            1. what a stupid fucking name
                            2. why does Israel get to have nuclear weapons
                            3. why does no one ask question 2
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                            Unfortunately the answer is pretty simple. The USA and Israel are best buddies and if the USA says their buddy can have a nuclear arsenal who is going to stand up and tell them otherwise?

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                              1. what a stupid fucking name
                              2. why does Israel get to have nuclear weapons
                              3. why does no one ask question 2
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                              Why does anyone get to have nuclear weapons?

                              Because once you have them, who's going to try to take them away?

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                                Bet it isn’t a refugee camp sized amount nor an entire city blocks worth though.

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                                Are you ok with just accepting any innocent humans as collateral damage? Bc as far as slippery slopes go, accepting that is a fast track to dehumanization.

                                I don't believe those scientists deserved to die, but even if you do, why did their spouses and children deserve to die too?

                                Try to imagine you're the neighbor of that scientist. Good chance you've barely interacted with each other more than a passing nod of acknowledgement when you're coming and going from your home. Do you and your whole family deserve to die bc of proximity to a target?

                                Apply that same question x all 10 scientists they killed. It almost makes the KGB targeting people with poison seem like humanitarian work by comparison.

                                If these were your friends and family being killed by a foreign government while they slept in their beds, you would have to be a psychopath to just brush it off as necessary collateral damage.

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                                  Why does anyone get to have nuclear weapons?

                                  Because once you have them, who's going to try to take them away?

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                                  yeah but if Israel gets them the countries they keep bombing should also get to have them. the country that jerks off to 2A somehow doesn't think so.

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                                    state terror

                                    Yeah, the 'protocols of the elders of zion' larpers dont do anything else

                                    need to stop

                                    I think it's a few years late for purely negative action to be useful here.

                                    We let this get too far out of hand. The question is: glass some LARPers, or world war 3? If the former is not on the table, the latter is inevitable.

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                                    I think it's a few years late for purely negative action to be useful here.

                                    I actually disagree with that. If we end the flow of weapons and funding to Israel, we'd see a totally different behavior from Israel within the week.

                                    The question is: glass some LARPers, or world war 3? If the former is not on the table, the latter is inevitable.

                                    And this part, you're saying nuke them or else WW3? That rhetoric is as bad as theirs! If you can't think of any other solutions, then please, don't be part of the solution.

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                                      I'm surprised they're publicly announcing this one.

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                                      I think it's probably pretty hard to keep simultaneously assassinating 10 targets and their families under wraps, so they're trying to get ahead of accusations by pretending it's a show of military strength instead of horrifying skynet murder.

                                      It looks especially bad when they're pointing the finger at Iran for fucking cluster bombs.

                                      The argument being cluster bombs are a dirty move, but using simultaneous AI powered assassin drones to strike while people are sleeping makes you the good guys?

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                                        This is state sanctioned mass murder. This is state terror attacks across a national border. This is so unethical and obviously illegal, I don't know what else to say about it.

                                        We need to distance ourselves from Israel. We need to stop giving them weapons. Right now, the taxes I pay go partially to arming them, I am partially responsible, and this is not "ok". I do not want to be doing this, I never wanted this...

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                                        Right now, the taxes I pay go partially to arming them,

                                        And we are giving millions in contracts to Palantir to help them create these nightmare AI projects with zero oversight.

                                        Alex Karp's biography makes it pretty clear he's trying to spin this shit as every American's patriotic duty to support, and no different than the Manhattan project (as if that's something great to aspire to in the first fucking place) during WWII.

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                                          I think it's a few years late for purely negative action to be useful here.

                                          I actually disagree with that. If we end the flow of weapons and funding to Israel, we'd see a totally different behavior from Israel within the week.

                                          The question is: glass some LARPers, or world war 3? If the former is not on the table, the latter is inevitable.

                                          And this part, you're saying nuke them or else WW3? That rhetoric is as bad as theirs! If you can't think of any other solutions, then please, don't be part of the solution.

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                                          I hope your right, but i don't know if they know how to stop,

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