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    Can't kid a kidder wee man.

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    It's kinda funny, tho, don't you think? For you to be this mad AND wrong?

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    • nelots@lemmy.zipN [email protected]

      I've always really liked this explanation image you can find on Wikipedia page for it. Essentially, people who see white and gold are mistaking the lighting to be cold and blue-tinted, rather than warm and yellow-tinted.

      The portions inside the boxes are the exact same colors, you can easily check this with a color picker.

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      I don't understand this, can you explain it?

      In the left I see a black and blue dress with a yellow box. The dress inside the box is still black and blue (with yellow tint).

      In the right side I see a white and gold dress with a blue. box. Inside the box the dress is white and gold, with a blue tint.

      What am i supposed to see here? What is this telling me?

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        But you can clearly see that the lighting is bright yellow-white, not blue...

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        The yellow background could be lit by another window or a different light source, so one could argue we don't have a good reference to tell. But the point is that the "picture of a thing" is not "the thing" itself, and there is always a possibility that they are different.

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          The wikipedia page details how it was a viral buzzfeed quiz positing the question "what color is this dress?" The wikipedia page also details how the buzzfeed quiz blew up overnight(feb26)- oh, you're right, I can't find when they announced the color. It was the next day, feb 27th. I just used google to find the old tweet.

          So anyway, the wide world did NOT know the color of the dress from the beginning, it went viral overnight without that context at all. Sorry? I don't know why you seem to care so much?

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          On the day of the wedding, Caitlin McNeill, a friend of the bride and groom, performed with her band at the wedding. Even after seeing that the dress was "obviously blue and black" in reality,[3] the musicians remained preoccupied by the photograph. They said they almost failed to make it on stage because they were caught up discussing the dress.

          Yeah nothing wider here because some people on Tumblr for a day didn't know. Not like its still being discussed and studied a decade later.

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            Ah man, for sure. Don't worry! Everyone who sees this WILL know how emotionally invested you were. You made probably like 30 comments, after all. Enjoy your day buckaroo!

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            I'm emotionally invested in my daughters this is nothing. Emotions don't factor in here.

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              It's kinda funny, tho, don't you think? For you to be this mad AND wrong?

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              If you recall my original comment

              It is interesting it’s only the black and blue people who don’t seem to get it and get emotional over it.

              So I figured you'd be a good example of someone who doesn't 'get it' (even when explained with clear logic). Something in that maybe.

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                On the day of the wedding, Caitlin McNeill, a friend of the bride and groom, performed with her band at the wedding. Even after seeing that the dress was "obviously blue and black" in reality,[3] the musicians remained preoccupied by the photograph. They said they almost failed to make it on stage because they were caught up discussing the dress.

                Yeah nothing wider here because some people on Tumblr for a day didn't know. Not like its still being discussed and studied a decade later.

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                The wider debate, dawg. When everyone knew the truth, the debate over what color the dress was died or at least started dying. There may have been people who continued debating without that knowledge, and there are certainly people who continued discussing afterwards. The debate can only be one of two things: either it's the color of the dress or the color of the picture of the dress. The question has TWO objective answers. Most people, again, not knowing the wider context when they entered the conversation, took a position based on what they thought the color of the ACTUAL DRESS was. And when that objective question was answered, everyone stopped caring. You know, the royal everyone. Society at large.

                Also... reading comprehension, dawg. NO ONE knew what the color of the dress was when the quiz went viral except for the originators of the image and their real life social circle/community which had been discussing it. The tumblr bit is almost completely irrelevant to what you're trying to argue.

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                  If you recall my original comment

                  It is interesting it’s only the black and blue people who don’t seem to get it and get emotional over it.

                  So I figured you'd be a good example of someone who doesn't 'get it' (even when explained with clear logic). Something in that maybe.

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                  I do recall, that's why I started trolling you when I noticed the vulnerability you have to it.

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                    I'm emotionally invested in my daughters this is nothing. Emotions don't factor in here.

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                    Ah yes, that's why you're defending yourself relentlessly against a stranger on the internet. It's because you don't care. You're so detached and cool 😎

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                      Optical illusion innit

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                      Hey, just arguing with you in a different comment chain now. So, like, I see the optical illusion. But the background is clearly yellow in the picture? So I don't understand how your brain is interpreting that part? To me it seems like you're ignoring the background of the image for this point. Can you go more in depth on that part, specifically? Does that yellow light look blue to you?

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                        Optical illusion innit

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                        If anything, I'm more interested in how THAT color is being interpreted than the dress itself. Does it become shade to people because they perceive it relative to the dress? Because, I mean, we know that it is factually light. So how are people perceiving it to be the absence of light? Can you explain that bit?

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                          The wider debate, dawg. When everyone knew the truth, the debate over what color the dress was died or at least started dying. There may have been people who continued debating without that knowledge, and there are certainly people who continued discussing afterwards. The debate can only be one of two things: either it's the color of the dress or the color of the picture of the dress. The question has TWO objective answers. Most people, again, not knowing the wider context when they entered the conversation, took a position based on what they thought the color of the ACTUAL DRESS was. And when that objective question was answered, everyone stopped caring. You know, the royal everyone. Society at large.

                          Also... reading comprehension, dawg. NO ONE knew what the color of the dress was when the quiz went viral except for the originators of the image and their real life social circle/community which had been discussing it. The tumblr bit is almost completely irrelevant to what you're trying to argue.

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                          Thank you for continue to demonstrate your lack of critical thinking.

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                            Thank you for continue to demonstrate your lack of critical thinking.

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                            You're welcome! Thank you for disregarding facts because they don't align with your narrative!

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                              Friggin hate that dress.

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                                Ah yes, that's why you're defending yourself relentlessly against a stranger on the internet. It's because you don't care. You're so detached and cool 😎

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                                Not because I don't care, I care because I'm making a point & winding you up. Doesnt mean there needs to be emotions involved. Detached is my default.

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                                  you fools the dress is clearly grey :3

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                                    Hey, just arguing with you in a different comment chain now. So, like, I see the optical illusion. But the background is clearly yellow in the picture? So I don't understand how your brain is interpreting that part? To me it seems like you're ignoring the background of the image for this point. Can you go more in depth on that part, specifically? Does that yellow light look blue to you?

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                                    Looks like a sunny background and that the dress is in the shade

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                                      You're welcome! Thank you for disregarding facts because they don't align with your narrative!

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                                      What facts

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                                        I'm the exact opposite. When somebody first showed me the picture, I thought "is this some kind of trick question? It's obviously black and blue". And still to this day, after many arguments with (friends and family) as what I can only perceive as stubborn defensiveness, I can still only ever perceive it as black and blue.

                                        I literally cannot override my color perception to trick myself into seeing white and gold and it feels like a mistake a lot of people made (to see white and gold) and then just stuck with and argued for ("it's an optical illusion!" or "look at the pixels!").

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                                        I literally cannot override my color perception to trick myself [...]

                                        If biology had intent, I'd think this is intentional. You're not supposed to be able to do that.

                                        Once your brain decides on a context, that becomes the (percieved) truth, and it'll take a lot of new information to change your mind because your brain will invent reasons why what you're seeing is correct. Your brain makes up a story, that story seems to make sense, and so new perceptions not only need to make sense but also disprove the story it has.

                                        Take, for instance, this silhouette. It has no lines to indicate depth, but I bet you'll settle on a mental 3D model—you'll be able to see where the hips end, which leg is doing what—and it'll be really hard to switch perception from spinning one direction to spinning the other.

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                                          What facts

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                                          The fact that the real color wasn't widespread knowledge from the get go. 🥱🥱

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