Who remembers this?
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Idk, you pretty clearly are and have been using ad hominem attacks.
What was I struggling to grasp again? Which part? The idea that it was ambiguous?
wrote last edited by [email protected]You don't have a monopoly on bad faith arguments, ad hom doesnt equal emotional it just means I've disregarded your input as valuable and I'm winding you up.
You struggled to grasp pretty much any of it.
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Btw, quick note, idk if your perception is just so malformed that you can't tell, but the first mention of "skill issue" was about where I started trolling you. I'm letting you know because you are clearly quite vulnerable to feeding the troll.
Can't kid a kidder wee man.
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It's so fucking white and gold I think there's something wrong with you and your children
Look at the background. The lighting is a warm yellow. This shifts blue to white and black to gold.
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This is exactly the thing.
Whatever the dress may be in reality, the photo of it that was circulated was either exposed or twiddled with such that the pixels it's made of are indeed slightly bluish grey trending towards white (i.e. above 50% grey) and tanish browny gold.
That is absolutely not up for debate. Those are the color values of those pixels, end of discussion.
Edit to add: This entire debacle is a fascinating case of people either failing to or refusing to separate the concept of a physical object versus its very inaccurate representation. The photograph of the object is not the object: ce n'est pas une robe.
The people going around in this thread and elsewhere putting people down and calling them "stupid" or whatever else only because they know that the physical dress itself is black and blue based on external information are studiously ignoring the fact that this is not what the photograph of it shows. That's because the photograph is extremely cooked and is not an accurate depiction. The debate only exists at all if one party or the other does not have the complete set of information, and at this point in history now that this stupid meme has been driven into the ground quite thoroughly I should hope that all of us do.
It's true that our brains can and will interpret false color data based on either context or surrounding contrast, and it's possible that somebody deliberately messed with the original image to amplify this effect in the first place. But the fact remains that arguing about what the dress is versus how it's been inaccurately depicted is stupid, and anyone still trying that at this late stage is probably doing so in bad faith.
Earlier today I was sat in a dark room reading this thread, I looked at the picture above and it clearly had blue tones with warm dark grey. The dress was obviously blue/black.
I'm sitting outside in the light now, looking at the same picture on the same phone in the same app and now it's white and gold/brown.
Without going on my pc and colour picking it myself I can't tell what colour the picture really is since my eyes seem all to happy to lie to me about it.
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The wikipedia page details how it's been studied for over a decade since, and how it was never 'unknown' so you check the wikpedia page ig
The wikipedia page details how it was a viral buzzfeed quiz positing the question "what color is this dress?" The wikipedia page also details how the buzzfeed quiz blew up overnight(feb26)- oh, you're right, I can't find when they announced the color. It was the next day, feb 27th. I just used google to find the old tweet.
So anyway, the wide world did NOT know the color of the dress from the beginning, it went viral overnight without that context at all. Sorry? I don't know why you seem to care so much?
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You don't have a monopoly on bad faith arguments, ad hom doesnt equal emotional it just means I've disregarded your input as valuable and I'm winding you up.
You struggled to grasp pretty much any of it.
For sure man, you're winding me up...
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Can't kid a kidder wee man.
Ah man, for sure. Don't worry! Everyone who sees this WILL know how emotionally invested you were. You made probably like 30 comments, after all. Enjoy your day buckaroo!
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Can't kid a kidder wee man.
It's kinda funny, tho, don't you think? For you to be this mad AND wrong?
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I've always really liked this explanation image you can find on Wikipedia page for it. Essentially, people who see white and gold are mistaking the lighting to be cold and blue-tinted, rather than warm and yellow-tinted.
The portions inside the boxes are the exact same colors, you can easily check this with a color picker.
wrote last edited by [email protected]I don't understand this, can you explain it?
In the left I see a black and blue dress with a yellow box. The dress inside the box is still black and blue (with yellow tint).
In the right side I see a white and gold dress with a blue. box. Inside the box the dress is white and gold, with a blue tint.
What am i supposed to see here? What is this telling me?
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But you can clearly see that the lighting is bright yellow-white, not blue...
The yellow background could be lit by another window or a different light source, so one could argue we don't have a good reference to tell. But the point is that the "picture of a thing" is not "the thing" itself, and there is always a possibility that they are different.
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The wikipedia page details how it was a viral buzzfeed quiz positing the question "what color is this dress?" The wikipedia page also details how the buzzfeed quiz blew up overnight(feb26)- oh, you're right, I can't find when they announced the color. It was the next day, feb 27th. I just used google to find the old tweet.
So anyway, the wide world did NOT know the color of the dress from the beginning, it went viral overnight without that context at all. Sorry? I don't know why you seem to care so much?
On the day of the wedding, Caitlin McNeill, a friend of the bride and groom, performed with her band at the wedding. Even after seeing that the dress was "obviously blue and black" in reality,[3] the musicians remained preoccupied by the photograph. They said they almost failed to make it on stage because they were caught up discussing the dress.
Yeah nothing wider here because some people on Tumblr for a day didn't know. Not like its still being discussed and studied a decade later.
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Ah man, for sure. Don't worry! Everyone who sees this WILL know how emotionally invested you were. You made probably like 30 comments, after all. Enjoy your day buckaroo!
I'm emotionally invested in my daughters this is nothing. Emotions don't factor in here.
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It's kinda funny, tho, don't you think? For you to be this mad AND wrong?
If you recall my original comment
It is interesting it’s only the black and blue people who don’t seem to get it and get emotional over it.
So I figured you'd be a good example of someone who doesn't 'get it' (even when explained with clear logic). Something in that maybe.
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On the day of the wedding, Caitlin McNeill, a friend of the bride and groom, performed with her band at the wedding. Even after seeing that the dress was "obviously blue and black" in reality,[3] the musicians remained preoccupied by the photograph. They said they almost failed to make it on stage because they were caught up discussing the dress.
Yeah nothing wider here because some people on Tumblr for a day didn't know. Not like its still being discussed and studied a decade later.
The wider debate, dawg. When everyone knew the truth, the debate over what color the dress was died or at least started dying. There may have been people who continued debating without that knowledge, and there are certainly people who continued discussing afterwards. The debate can only be one of two things: either it's the color of the dress or the color of the picture of the dress. The question has TWO objective answers. Most people, again, not knowing the wider context when they entered the conversation, took a position based on what they thought the color of the ACTUAL DRESS was. And when that objective question was answered, everyone stopped caring. You know, the royal everyone. Society at large.
Also... reading comprehension, dawg. NO ONE knew what the color of the dress was when the quiz went viral except for the originators of the image and their real life social circle/community which had been discussing it. The tumblr bit is almost completely irrelevant to what you're trying to argue.
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If you recall my original comment
It is interesting it’s only the black and blue people who don’t seem to get it and get emotional over it.
So I figured you'd be a good example of someone who doesn't 'get it' (even when explained with clear logic). Something in that maybe.
I do recall, that's why I started trolling you when I noticed the vulnerability you have to it.
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I'm emotionally invested in my daughters this is nothing. Emotions don't factor in here.
Ah yes, that's why you're defending yourself relentlessly against a stranger on the internet. It's because you don't care. You're so detached and cool
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Optical illusion innit
Hey, just arguing with you in a different comment chain now. So, like, I see the optical illusion. But the background is clearly yellow in the picture? So I don't understand how your brain is interpreting that part? To me it seems like you're ignoring the background of the image for this point. Can you go more in depth on that part, specifically? Does that yellow light look blue to you?
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Optical illusion innit
If anything, I'm more interested in how THAT color is being interpreted than the dress itself. Does it become shade to people because they perceive it relative to the dress? Because, I mean, we know that it is factually light. So how are people perceiving it to be the absence of light? Can you explain that bit?
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The wider debate, dawg. When everyone knew the truth, the debate over what color the dress was died or at least started dying. There may have been people who continued debating without that knowledge, and there are certainly people who continued discussing afterwards. The debate can only be one of two things: either it's the color of the dress or the color of the picture of the dress. The question has TWO objective answers. Most people, again, not knowing the wider context when they entered the conversation, took a position based on what they thought the color of the ACTUAL DRESS was. And when that objective question was answered, everyone stopped caring. You know, the royal everyone. Society at large.
Also... reading comprehension, dawg. NO ONE knew what the color of the dress was when the quiz went viral except for the originators of the image and their real life social circle/community which had been discussing it. The tumblr bit is almost completely irrelevant to what you're trying to argue.
Thank you for continue to demonstrate your lack of critical thinking.
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Thank you for continue to demonstrate your lack of critical thinking.
You're welcome! Thank you for disregarding facts because they don't align with your narrative!
