Norwegian tourist claims he was 'strip searched' before being denied entry to US over JD Vance meme on phone
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You are ignorant, bigoted, and not worth further time. Give your head a shake.
Like seriously I'd like to know so I don't repeat it: which part of any of my replies is bigoted?
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What kind of dumb fuck still goes to the US for tourism?
Norwegians have this fanciful notion that all European and north American countries are essentially the same and that nothing is as bad as it's made out to be by those hysterical foreigners. This requires some degree of cognitive dissonance because they also feel like there is no country as good as Norway and everyone must really want to be Norwegian.
So he probably assumed it wasn't nearly as bad over there as people are saying and if he was to get into difficulty he could just say he's Norwegian and people would just let him off because everyone loves Norwegians. Also he's 21 so not terribly smart yet.
Not to mention that he's probably never been in a situation where a border control person takes your phone.
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You aren't trapped though! Come to Canada!
And this is how we achieved a population greater than what our housing can support. Unless you’re ready to fork over 1200-2k a month for a 1 bedroom & 1 bathroom then I would advise against this.
People are already forking over that kind of money in the US, and have been for years.
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Like seriously I'd like to know so I don't repeat it: which part of any of my replies is bigoted?
2 comments 6 minutes apart on the same comment. Thirsty much?
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2 comments 6 minutes apart on the same comment. Thirsty much?
wrote last edited by [email protected]Yeah I actually am thirsty to know what specifically made you think I'm bigoted. We can agree to disagree about everything else but being called a bigot is pretty serious
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You aren't trapped though! Come to Canada!
And this is how we achieved a population greater than what our housing can support. Unless you’re ready to fork over 1200-2k a month for a 1 bedroom & 1 bathroom then I would advise against this.
ooo, ten years ago prices
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I don't understand this, why not call him the way he wants to be called ? He's despicable but his name isn't the problem, I don't see how calling him Bowman (or calling Donald "Drumpf") is making any progress.
And it kind of undermines the discourse that we should respect people's choice as to how they define themselves.
BTW, the Trump family changed their name before they even came to America, unfortunately - it was such a good story. I still like to call him that from time to time, but also Mango Mussolini, Orange Baby or just mad megalomaniac.
And without him and his ilk we wouldn't even have a "discourse that we should respect people’s choice as to how they define themselves" because that would just be the norm, no need to "discourse" about it.
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Add that's why certain employers already give a burner phone to their employees if they have to go to the USA.
But I heard they also demand access to ALL social media accounts, which aren't tied to a device.
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you do not have a legitimate reason to travel there now.
My parents live here
I live here
Damn. So sorry.
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Why isn't it that simple? People leave their countries for a better life everyday. If the situation is as bad as claimed I can see no reason why regardless of complexity it isn't the option chosen.
Lack of financials, knowledge, and support? "If the situation is as bad as claimed" is crazy tbh.
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But I heard they also demand access to ALL social media accounts, which aren't tied to a device.
They can demand it, but you can't prove a negative.
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"Quick! He might be hiding more memes in his ass!" Like what?
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They can demand it, but you can't prove a negative.
True. Yeah, I was wondering how that plays out if you simply reply "There are none."
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But I heard they also demand access to ALL social media accounts, which aren't tied to a device.
If you have 2 factor authentication, and the authentication device is on another continent, you don't have any means to access the accounts even if they demand it.
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Lack of financials, knowledge, and support? "If the situation is as bad as claimed" is crazy tbh.
That sounds a lot like the conditions for people who leave other countries for a better life.
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Yeah I actually am thirsty to know what specifically made you think I'm bigoted. We can agree to disagree about everything else but being called a bigot is pretty serious
A bigot is a person who strongly and unfairly dislikes others based on their beliefs, race, or religion, often refusing to accept different ideas or groups. This term is commonly used to describe someone who holds prejudiced views.
Now that you know what the word means, try some self reflection.
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Why isn't it that simple? People leave their countries for a better life everyday. If the situation is as bad as claimed I can see no reason why regardless of complexity it isn't the option chosen.
You see, her CDs are in his truck.
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What kind of dumb fuck still goes to the US for tourism?
For many a trip to the US from Europe is a major event. I'd imagine that many people planned their trips last year before Trump was even reelected and had already invested a lot of money, at which point sunk fallacy plays a role.
I also think that for many it still hasn't registered that they are now also at risk and it's not just the classic family guy meme anymore, where it's based on skin colour.
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That sounds a lot like the conditions for people who leave other countries for a better life.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Americans are not used to being in this position and are freezing in place. They tell themselves it’s “to fight” and to reclaim the country, but they ignore the reality that this could be a bleak path for ostensibly decades upon decades.
The lesson of 1933 is you get out. But lots of Americans won’t because they have never liked history or valued it.
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A bigot is a person who strongly and unfairly dislikes others based on their beliefs, race, or religion, often refusing to accept different ideas or groups. This term is commonly used to describe someone who holds prejudiced views.
Now that you know what the word means, try some self reflection.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Yeah and I haven't done any of those things. I made a pretty clear distinction between the subjects under a government and the government itself, i.e. people who live in Canada/America/wherever vs the Canadian/America/wherever government.
If hating the Canadian government is bigotry then bigotry is a toothless concept that needs to be dispensed with...but obviously, hating the Canadian government is not bigotry. It's an emotional continuation of a principled objection to all nations rooted in the anarchist tradition of anti-nationalist libertarian socialism. Hating the cultural institutions invented by the Canadian government isn't bigotry either. Again, it is an emotional continuation of a principled objection to nationalism, in particular the cultural assimilation
Actually, my argument is closer to "it is bigotry NOT to reject national governments and their cultural assimilation." Because these national governments assimilate whatever cultures they can distill into something acceptable for capitalism, and brutally destroy anyone who can't or won't be assimilated. THAT is bigotry.
Like there's this distinct sense that you came into this conversation to dunk on "dumb Americans" for being a "big dumb patriot in dumb USA why don't you just leave" and you didn't expect to be dealing to someone to your left because literally everyone in America is a conservative no exceptions allowed and literally no one is paying attention. Pay no mind to the LA anti-ICE protests and even the shitlib-controlled No Kings protests where about 1% of the population turned up (which is actually huge for protests!).
And since you're usually dunking on Americans, who often are actual bigots, as a Canadian in a marginally less shit society, your brain goes "Yeah this dude is American so he must be a bigot, call him a bigot, that'll show him."
You aren't debating me. You're dunking on this abstract idea of a generic American but writing it in prose with the length and cadence of a serious debate.
And to be clear: I love dunking on my fellow Americans. I really do. We need to be put in our fucking place from time to time...all the fucking time really.
What I don't appreciate is debating under false pretenses. It was really that first remark about racism where I knew what this conversation was: you were debating the generic American, not me, because it's obvious to anyone with a pulse that I had said nothing even remotely racist or controversial in the snippet you quoted.
Like you have every right to be mad at America and Americans but maybe don't dunk on Americans when they're trying to express their disdain for the things you claim to be against. Like I 1000% support an America boycott, not coming to America, not working with Americans, fuck us and fuck all our shit, but you gotta understand that 100% purely perfect boycotting of America is not possible for people who were born here. It's not even a remotely controversial position. To deny this is to deny material reality.
People accuse anarchists of black and white thinking but it's you who's thinking in black and white, specifically that it is easy for all Americans to leave America and that anymore who doesn't leave wants to be here and agrees with all or even any of the oppression that the US government has planned for the world.
And usually I don't keep hammering people like this but...come on...I know you're a debate lord. You're usually on the other side of this interaction...so it's a chance to understand how it feels to be on the other side. (And also maybe I have important shit to do that I'm too anxious to do right now
.)And you started all this over an extremely tame joke which, while literally going against the literal text of your first comment, clearly does not show support for the American empire or even diminish the correct anti-American critique you started with. I even gave you an out in the second comment where you could have said nothing or been like "well maybe I was a bit harsh".
All of this say: even if you were right, you're kind of being a jerk in your comment history. Not just to me, but to basically everyone you've interacted with lately. Not saying you are a jerk because I don't know you, but you're being a jerk. And if I wasn't such an insufferable jerk myself, I would have probably just told you that directly and moved on with my life. Game recognizes game
.Yeah I have lotsa bullshit to reflect on because I'm an extremely flawed human. Again, my post/comment history proves I have a lot of shit to work on, and I don't pretend otherwise. Now you know that you do too.
