How im also raising my little guy
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If you want to put a little note saying 'the movies are overrated' sure, we can have a debate about that. Fantasy films really aren't for everyone, and adapting LotR is definitely not an easy task.
If you genuinely mean the books as well, idk what to tell you. The history of the fantasy genre after LotR proves you're wrong.
Modern fantasy owners might be standing on the shoulders of giants, but to extend the metaphor, it means their heads are higher than those giants.
LOTR could be overrated as a piece of fantasy writing for a modern audience, even if it is absolutely key to establishing the modern fantasy genre. For me, LOTR was good, but it was unsatisfying in some ways. Like, Gandalf and Saruman were obviously powerful "wizards", but what is it that they could do? How did their powers work? And there were characters like Tom Bombadil who were confusing and had me flipping pages.
I greatly respect Tolkien's work. But, unlike some more modern authors, I don't devour everything he wrote. For example, I absolutely couldn't read the Silmarillion.
So, yeah, I can see how someone would say that LOTR is overrated, even if it was key to establishing an entire genre.
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Don't forget futurama and star trek
Star Trek is a difficult one. The oldest stuff is very dated, even TNG has some things that are very weird for a modern audience. But, some of the modern stuff is basically unwatchable.
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Star Trek is a difficult one. The oldest stuff is very dated, even TNG has some things that are very weird for a modern audience. But, some of the modern stuff is basically unwatchable.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Yea there's some dated episodes but there's also measure of a man, past tense and a bunch of others that still absolutely slap
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Even if you dislike the story, its impact on the fantasy genre is hard to argue against. I personally dislike the series too, but I refuse to call it overrated because it influences basically every aspect of modern fantasy writing.
Having a massive influence is just proof of it being overrated, imagine how much more creative stories would be if everything didn't have to force in elves and dwarves and goblins
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Or a sister, or any woman who has the standing to tell you "your teeth are blotchy and your breath is bad, that's why people won't kiss you, go to the dentist"
wrote on last edited by [email protected]I always wonder where are the mothers of these shitty young men?
Like.
If I even thought of going into a misogynistic phase during my younger years, my mother would have put me in my place, yanno?
Are anglo mothers less sprited than latin american mothers?
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Having a massive influence is just proof of it being overrated, imagine how much more creative stories would be if everything didn't have to force in elves and dwarves and goblins
wrote on last edited by [email protected]My point wasn’t that fantasy needs elves, but rather that when a fantasy setting does include elves, you likely have a rough expectation of what kind of stereotype they’ll fit. That stereotype is the influence I’m talking about.
The “elves are old, somber, magical, close with nature, tall and thin, magically graceful, pale, have pointy ears, have delicate swooping architecture and designs, etc” stereotype is what you’d likely expect from elves if they get brought up in fantasy… And that stereotype is largely influenced by LOTR. A setting can still be fantasy without elves, but including elves in your story will have the reader automatically setting certain expectations about how those elves will fit into your world. You as the writer can choose to conform to (or rebel against) those expectations, but there’s no denying that the expectation exists, and is heavily influenced by LOTR.
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I fear that he won’t get many friends this way
Mainstream might be boring but it’s an easy way to connect with people
That's the trouble with gamers these days, they're only in it for the friendship. Fucking posers.
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I rewatched Mythbusters recently. It's pretty disturbing, especially in the early seasons, how often they use actual human remains for what is essentially light entertainment. Like, they'll destroy an actual human skull for shits and giggles. They had disproved the myth on setting off an airbag with a slim jim and firing it into the head of a would be car jacker, but still had to replicate the results, so just shot a slim jim into an actual human skull, cheering and laughing as it's decimated. That was an actual person's skull. How they sourced it, and where the source acquired it, who knows. I'm fairly certain there is a family somewhere though that would be mortified.
I don't see what's disturbing about that. As long as the bodies come from a legal, reputable source, what's the big deal?
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Needs more BattleBots.
Robot Wars.
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I always wonder where are the mothers of these shitty young men?
Like.
If I even thought of going into a misogynistic phase during my younger years, my mother would have put me in my place, yanno?
Are anglo mothers less sprited than latin american mothers?
They're at home, suffering their husbands abuse while their son learns to be just like Dad.
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I fear that he won’t get many friends this way
Mainstream might be boring but it’s an easy way to connect with people
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Column A, Column B
The trick is to introduce your kid to your taste in gaming while they're young
And then when they are in their tweens and want to game online with their mates, you set them up for it (with proper supervision and such, of course)
And they WILL develop their own taste in gaming -- But they will have some common ground with you still.
.... It worked for me and my dad (avid PC gamer, mostly plays strategy games and management sims though) anyway. Years later I convinced him to get Civ V and he completely destroyed me in it.
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Please don't, there's enough of those asshats around already.
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Yea there's some dated episodes but there's also measure of a man, past tense and a bunch of others that still absolutely slap
Yeah, there are some amazing episodes. TOS also has some amazing episodes. Offhand, I can't think of anything since DS9 / Voyager that was that good. There were definitely some fun episodes, but nothing that I kept thinking about for a long time after they aired, like say Picard's living an entire life in The Inner Light.
((Also funny about The Inner Light, is that I can't think of that episode without thinking of the really awkward way that they had Patrick Stewart pretend to play the flute by having someone lie on the floor out of camera and pretend that his arms were Patrick Stewart's arms.))
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Lotr is overrated, there i said it
Perhaps define "overrated" first or else I am not following your point.
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Please don't, there's enough of those asshats around already.
Don't hate us cuz you ain't us
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Modern fantasy owners might be standing on the shoulders of giants, but to extend the metaphor, it means their heads are higher than those giants.
LOTR could be overrated as a piece of fantasy writing for a modern audience, even if it is absolutely key to establishing the modern fantasy genre. For me, LOTR was good, but it was unsatisfying in some ways. Like, Gandalf and Saruman were obviously powerful "wizards", but what is it that they could do? How did their powers work? And there were characters like Tom Bombadil who were confusing and had me flipping pages.
I greatly respect Tolkien's work. But, unlike some more modern authors, I don't devour everything he wrote. For example, I absolutely couldn't read the Silmarillion.
So, yeah, I can see how someone would say that LOTR is overrated, even if it was key to establishing an entire genre.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]I think that's a lot like saying modern orchestral music stands on the shoulders of classical composers but that isn't really accurate, is it? Moonlight Sonata is Moonlight Sonata. Many classic compositions are still utilized in modern media.
There's a difference with being disastisfied with certain aspects of a story and that story being overrated. Gandalf and Saruman's powers being vague was the point. Tom Bombadil is such a minor portion of the Shire, is that even something relevant to the narrative as a whole? Fantasy, specifically, has evolved over time through the introduction of power systems sure — does that make them inherently better than LotR?
Not every book is for every person. You simply cannot deny the level of effort that went into creating LotR on Tolkien's part, nor that it is held in very high regard to this day. The books simply are not overrated.
Harry Potter, though, absolutely. 100% overrated.
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Column A, Column B
The trick is to introduce your kid to your taste in gaming while they're young
And then when they are in their tweens and want to game online with their mates, you set them up for it (with proper supervision and such, of course)
And they WILL develop their own taste in gaming -- But they will have some common ground with you still.
.... It worked for me and my dad (avid PC gamer, mostly plays strategy games and management sims though) anyway. Years later I convinced him to get Civ V and he completely destroyed me in it.
You have a diploma in personality development manipulation haha
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My son wants to "game" like most other kids at his class. So I got an old laptop, installed linux mint on it with dosbox. He loves lemmings, the incredible machine 2 and rollercoaster tycoon
Worms/Scorched Earth/Liero (pixel physics!)
That era had so many good Gorilla clones.
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Really? Maybe I have been missing them my whole life.
Really? Maybe I have been missing them my whole life.
Yup, but if you try to tell the youth of today that, they'd never believe you
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maybe you could have had an even better life had it happened
Unlikely. The reason I didn't have many friends is simply because I didn't get along with them: my interests were not their interests. It's much more fulfilling to find people who align with and elevate you than to seek popular approval.
