US to withdraw from NATO under Republican bill
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Tell it to Pootang, Yuri !
Putin is famously the president of the Russian Republic, very different from the Soviet Union. I don't know why you thinking me criticising what Russia has become somehow makes me Russian?
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Mike Lee is obviously a fucking traitor lol Americans stand up for your country and shoot the motherfucker
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The end of NATO doesn't mean any of that. We have bases in non-NATO countries too, so obviously that isn't because of NATO. It does mean Russia has almost free reign to invade more countries. If Russia can cause issues without being part of an alliance like NATO, why do you think the US can't when it's not part of NATO?
First of all, the country currently forcing my country to cut expenditure in healthcare and to put it into military is the US, not Russia. And the country funding and arming the most flagrant example of genocide in the 21st century is the US.
Second of all, Russia doesn't have geopolitical reasons, nor the military/economic strength, to invade EU countries. And even if it did, the EU has nukes so you don't need further military expenditure as deterrent.
Third, even if you forget all I've said above, the EU can still have a military alliance without the US, and it would be a much better thing.
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Honestly, the American far-right unknowingly dismantling US global hegemony piece by piece is pretty sick
they’re doing it very knowingly… they wrote an entire nearly 1000 page fucking document detailing exactly what they’re doing in excruciating detail.
the fascists == idiots trope needs to go bc that’s exactly what makes them dangerous. lots of these fuckers are quite intelligent and conniving. you should be weary.
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checked a wiki page about that.
it's frankly embarrassing how much the US military actually sucks.
likely human history most expensive military, and a complete waste of resources
The expense and waste is the point. Winning never was.
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The expense and waste is the point. Winning never was.
war is profitable, winning is irrelevant, soldiers lost are replaceable.
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Isn't this the same psycho whose reaction to Minnesota politicians being assassinated was conspiracy theories?
Yes it is
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Great insight, corporal cumsock
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Defending yourself is so dumb, hey?
Go and whine to Pootin. Everyone else has to react to the bully, or go extinct.
Pacifism has no place so long as there is ONE invader/bully left.I feel sorry for your 1 brain cell.
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Trump isn't the representative of the US? That's great news but it's not aligned with reality
trolls are out in droves today!
did I say he was "not the representative" or he was "not the US"?
somebody needs to work on reading comprehension. I can forgive it though assuming Russian is your primary language.
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Good, the neoliberal world order is destroying itself
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As someone from a country take over by the Soviet union... Lol.
Lol well the Soviets did have to move through Eastern Europe to Berlin to fight the nazi invasion
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LOL Pootin troll spotted.
Shouldn't you be digging babushka a fresh latrine pit, Yuri? The old one is full and Pootang needs it to recruit more of YOU from.Are you ok? I can condemn the US/NATO while also condemning the current Russian regime
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they’re doing it very knowingly… they wrote an entire nearly 1000 page fucking document detailing exactly what they’re doing in excruciating detail.
the fascists == idiots trope needs to go bc that’s exactly what makes them dangerous. lots of these fuckers are quite intelligent and conniving. you should be weary.
Oh, we're weary all right.
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they’re doing it very knowingly… they wrote an entire nearly 1000 page fucking document detailing exactly what they’re doing in excruciating detail.
the fascists == idiots trope needs to go bc that’s exactly what makes them dangerous. lots of these fuckers are quite intelligent and conniving. you should be weary.
Wary, though I think we're all weary at this point as well.
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Half the military and technology assets that won't ever actually be used to help NATO under Trump.
He'll veto every action that goes against Russia... Which is what NATO was originally formed to do...
I don't think it matters, the EU contains a mutual defense pact as well. Even if NATO fails to respond due to Trump being an Epstein related kiddie diddler, EU members have each other's back. Turkey would be left out in the cold though.
So there's no downside to having the US in NATO. Unless you're Turkey.
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First of all, the country currently forcing my country to cut expenditure in healthcare and to put it into military is the US, not Russia. And the country funding and arming the most flagrant example of genocide in the 21st century is the US.
Second of all, Russia doesn't have geopolitical reasons, nor the military/economic strength, to invade EU countries. And even if it did, the EU has nukes so you don't need further military expenditure as deterrent.
Third, even if you forget all I've said above, the EU can still have a military alliance without the US, and it would be a much better thing.
First of all, the country currently forcing my country to cut expenditure in healthcare and to put it into military is the US, not Russia.
Wrong. There's no requirement for spending as a part of NATO. There's also no requirement for the US to do anything. The invasion of Ukraine by Russia is almost certainly the reason your country, whichever it is, is increasing military spending.
Second of all, Russia doesn't have geopolitical reasons, nor the military/economic strength, to invade EU countries.
They have reasons. Some EU nations are former Soviet states. Just the "restore the former borders of the Soviet union" reason is reason enough, ignoring the resources or anything else. Do they have the strength? Why is that included here. Does it matter? It doesn't have to be smart to happen.
And even if it did, the EU has nukes so you don't need further military expenditure as deterrent.
I don't know what you people who keep bringing up nukes think they're for. You can't use them. Using them will only ensure you lose, because everyone turns against you. They are only useful to deter other nuclear strikes, and also to deter nations from creating a last stand situation where you have already lost so there's nothing to lose in using nukes. You can't win a war with nukes.
Third, even if you forget all I've said above, the EU can still have a military alliance without the US, and it would be a much better thing.
Forget or dispute? You're implying your logic is faultless. Anyway, sure. They can. They don't though. I advocate that they do. I'd love to see the EU with its own defensive force. I don't want them to be reliant on the US, like they currently are. However, that necessarily requires most EU nations to increase their military spending, which you're apparently against. You want magic, not reality. You want all the benefits of military power without any of the costs. Sorry. That can't happen.
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Lol well the Soviets did have to move through Eastern Europe to Berlin to fight the nazi invasion
They also had to drink water when they were thirsty. Both of which are irrelevant to decades of brutal occupation.
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I had so many brain dead idiots attack me over at Reddit, for claiming America would withdraw from NATO if trump won. They weren’t just Americans, but also Europeans.
I got banned from one of the NCD communites (not world, different instance) here for insinuating the US doesn't want Ukraine to join NATO lol
