Why is Lemmy attempting to radicalise people to enforce class wars?
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At this stage the whole Lemmy project feels like a CIA experiment, part of some as-of-yet unknown group of experiments / operation given a vague name. All the content is on the extremist-side, enforces attitudes perfect to embolden class wars and young people (no doubt the majority of people here) aren't worldly enough to know the difference. It's full of AI-generated political memes and comments.
Where's the trove of knowledge? The awesome positive hobbies? If it's around, it's all drown out by the manipulative noise.
This could be easily fixed in the coding of Lemmy, but... it hasn't.
I'm becoming very di-senlightened by Lemmy, Let the abuse and downvotes ensue.
Sounds like a citizen or fed that is fat on propaganda swallowed whole and without thought is angry that others don’t share his delusions.
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Sure it should not but it sure is needed and does exist whether you engage in it or not.
Who doesn't pay appropriate taxes?
Who helps the community?
Who destroys the climate in the pursuit of profit?
Who denies you healthcare/youth care/eldercare when you need it?
Who engages in wars in which they don't fight the enemy?
Who can't do anything about it?
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There's your problem, by denying the need you are helping the opressors.
Ok, problems not denied... So, everything's fixed, right? The people are essentially powerless - politics aside - and arguing such things is moot and a distraction to a happy life.
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Sure, I'm thinking controls for a better feed that doesn't give voice to the constant political crap, more control over it, better blocking of post bots and AI slop generating bots.
Honestly, I'd rather just look for a better server with less politically outspoken nobodies.
Since according to you this is an easy coding issue that no one's bothered to implement, how would you from a technical standpoint implement those improvements?
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There's a fair history of security services acting as agents provocateur infiltrating socialist and trade union movements to split them apart get evidence or 'intel' to imprison leaders. Certainly in the UK that was a part of their union busting tactics. So it is something to be aware of.
I'm not sure that is what is happening on here though. I'm also not sure if that's what OP was referring to.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]It's the exact thing I meant and didn't realise I had to be explicit as I thought this would be common knowledge amongst these vocal self-proclaimed worldly people. It happens with any extremist group, terrorist cells or potential threats to the government and where better to obtain such information than online? It's naive to think the world's governments don't also have a lemmy presence with relevant operations. "oh but we're too smol, they wouldn't bother waaahh" is exactly what such organisations would want the community to think.
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Who can't do anything about it?
Have you met Mr. Molotov?
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It isn't that it contradicts any political biases. But, it's like, ok, enough, we get it, yawn, now for positive stuff like hobbies, fun stuff, not the same whinging circle jerk over and over again.
Yeah, sorry, I was being a bit catty with that reply. But algorithmically identifying something as "whinging circle jerk" is really difficult unless you wanna throw away the baby with the bathwater. I think someone elsewhere in the thread recommended creating a second account just for the hobby communities, if you wanna avoid the political memery. If the hobby communities feel quiet, well, you have the power to change that by posting something there.
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Sure. Just go to the community and select "block community" in the sidebar. (Or go to the settings -> blocks -> and type it into the search bar).
Thanks, didn't know that!
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Sounds like a citizen or fed that is fat on propaganda swallowed whole and without thought is angry that others don’t share his delusions.
I never once wrote I disagree with it, but other than pseudo intellectual masturbation, it isn't good for much.
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Have you met Mr. Molotov?
Have you met Mr I'm So Funny With My Aggressive Posts That Make Me Sound "Bad" In A Community I Think is Violent And Will Back Me Up?
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I never once wrote I disagree with it, but other than pseudo intellectual masturbation, it isn't good for much.
It doesn’t seem like you understand how to speak properly.
Pseudo intellectualism is when people present false or illogical statements as fact.
And right now, the only person doing that is you.
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Decent shitpost, cheers
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Is the resident Lemmy population becoming too easy to troll?
Hello lemmings are you all left wing because you are CIA and racist? Also if you go outside you will not hate car
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Yeah, sorry, I was being a bit catty with that reply. But algorithmically identifying something as "whinging circle jerk" is really difficult unless you wanna throw away the baby with the bathwater. I think someone elsewhere in the thread recommended creating a second account just for the hobby communities, if you wanna avoid the political memery. If the hobby communities feel quiet, well, you have the power to change that by posting something there.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Don't worry. As a little experiment, I've found time and time again across a whole range of social media sites over years, that having a username that some people could perceive as aggressive will get you blocked / banned faster than you would believe. The people of Lemmy are not as different/open as they think they are!
Unfortunately, when I open groups, I get called out that it should be merged with a sort-of-similar group, and then of course, empty groups are hard to start.
Having to take the effort to block all the politics in the first place mean 90% of people won't do it and will get tied up with giving their asshole to each post rather than perhaps what they wanted to come here for in the first place. I believe that doesn't create an overall diverse community. Sentiment analysis is an old and established form of ai that would be useful here.
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It doesn’t seem like you understand how to speak properly.
Pseudo intellectualism is when people present false or illogical statements as fact.
And right now, the only person doing that is you.
lol! Pseudo intellectual does pseudo intellectual stuff regarding pseudo intellectualism!
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At this stage the whole Lemmy project feels like a CIA experiment, part of some as-of-yet unknown group of experiments / operation given a vague name. All the content is on the extremist-side, enforces attitudes perfect to embolden class wars and young people (no doubt the majority of people here) aren't worldly enough to know the difference. It's full of AI-generated political memes and comments.
Where's the trove of knowledge? The awesome positive hobbies? If it's around, it's all drown out by the manipulative noise.
This could be easily fixed in the coding of Lemmy, but... it hasn't.
I'm becoming very di-senlightened by Lemmy, Let the abuse and downvotes ensue.
Do you apply it for Xitter/Farcebook?
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At this stage the whole Lemmy project feels like a CIA experiment, part of some as-of-yet unknown group of experiments / operation given a vague name. All the content is on the extremist-side, enforces attitudes perfect to embolden class wars and young people (no doubt the majority of people here) aren't worldly enough to know the difference. It's full of AI-generated political memes and comments.
Where's the trove of knowledge? The awesome positive hobbies? If it's around, it's all drown out by the manipulative noise.
This could be easily fixed in the coding of Lemmy, but... it hasn't.
I'm becoming very di-senlightened by Lemmy, Let the abuse and downvotes ensue.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Imagine thinking Lemmy is propagandizing people into these beliefs and not just the one platform that's not relentlessly shoving the capitalist boot down everyone's throat and allowing for semi-genuine conversation like you rarely see in corpo social media.
Like, sure, it's Lemmy that's pushing the narrative of class warfare and no other platform has that kind of talk but hidden by mod abuse. Nope, just Lemmy, clearly.
Maybe this is a selfawarewolf post.....
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IMO Lemmy has revealed that people around the world are more left-leaning and class conscious than I thought back when I was on R*ddit.
All the content is on the extremist-side, enforces attitudes perfect to embolden class wars ...
Yes, unironically and openly, I support and advocate for class war against the capitalist class. The capitalist class wages their class war against the working class every single day in every single facet of modern existence. It's well past time we start fighting back as an exercise of our own individual and collective self-defense. Class consciousness should never have been controversial, and it is only controversial because it encourages people to challenge capitalism.
... and young people (no doubt the majority of people here) aren't worldly enough to know the difference.
You don't need any political knowledge to know my positions. I am literally an anarchist, and I have said so loudly and often. Like me, most of these "extremists" are open socialists and communists and will readily tell you their views and ideologies (many of whom I emphatically disagree with from their left, but I somehow suspect you would consider me just as "extreme", namely for challenging the utility and inevitability of capitalism).
Where's the trove of knowledge? The awesome positive hobbies? If it's around, it's all drown out by the manipulative noise.
Yes, it is a shame that capitalism drowns out all our hobbies, all our positive experiences, everything so completely that we need to waste so much bandwidth drowning out the manipulative noise peddled by capitalists on almost every other platform.
It's full of AI-generated political memes and comments.
I don't recommend completely blocking yourself off from politics forever, but if you really need to take a temporary break like everyone deserves, I recommend making an alt account with all political communities and posters blocked. But keep in mind...you might be done with politics, but politics is never done with you. In particular, capitalism is never gonna ask your permission to use and abuse you.
And really, this is a special case of the fact that you need to curate your own feed. Some other social networks do this for you in ways that compromise your privacy and, frankly, brainwash people into accepting the neoliberal monoculture.
IMO Lemmy has revealed that people around the world are more left-leaning and class conscious than I thought back when I was on R*ddit.
Not wanting to rain on your parade, but that's what an echo chamber does.
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Imagine thinking Lemmy is propagandizing people into these beliefs and not just the one platform that's not relentlessly shoving the capitalist boot down everyone's throat and allowing for semi-genuine conversation like you rarely see in corpo social media.
Like, sure, it's Lemmy that's pushing the narrative of class warfare and no other platform has that kind of talk but hidden by mod abuse. Nope, just Lemmy, clearly.
Maybe this is a selfawarewolf post.....
Touchy subject for you huh, and you're reading far more into it than the words that are there.
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Touchy subject for you huh, and you're reading far more into it than the words that are there.
Nah, just sick of the capitalist bootlickers pretending like there isn't already a class war that we are and have been losing for centuries.
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your insinuation that those of us more politically active must be young and not worldly is infantilizing bullshit.
Ahh, spoken like a true unworldly young person. I hope you understand in twenty years.
Spoken like a teenager pretending to be an adult lol.
People with actual experience don't assume someone's disagreement means they are inexperienced. But assuming as much is a good indicator of someone being actually inexperienced, though.
