Youtuber PewDiePie is going all in on deGoogling and the Steam Deck is one of the surprising tools that's helping him to 'escape'
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Yeah. Guy does a few Nazi things and anti-Semitic things a few years ago and he has to live with that reputation forever?
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And come on, why are you living in the past? Just because Kanye straight off said some Nazi shit every few months? Dude, separate the art from the artist!Oh, and Kevin Spacey did a bit of rape back then. But it was so long ago!
And while we're here, Bill Cosby drugged those girls in the 70s. Like my dude, who wasn't a little edgy back then?
wrote on last edited by [email protected]You're going to equate a word with being a Nazi and rape? Using a racial slur is literally a small subset of being a Nazi.
If you think calling people Jews was the big issue with the Nazis, well...
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Pretty much. The whole "Internet is forever" doesn't mean shit if you can be a dick and then throw money to PR fix your reputation.
Just to be clear: if someone has actively shown growth then I am all for them moving past shit (obviously the amount of growth required depends on the level of shitty before but). James Gunn being kind of the poster child for that where he was an edgelord dipshit when he was younger. But every time that comes up, almost everyone around him makes it clear that he has grown significantly and he owns up to it every time.
Like... look at idubbz. I, and many others, aren't sure if we can ever actually "forgive" him considering how much abuse we received because of people directly quoting his hate. But he also (at least briefly. Not sure what he has done since) made it a big point of actually APOLOGIZING. And... getting a lot of shit and hatred from other youtubers who refuse to apologize for their shittiness for whatever reason (shoutout to moistcritical for breaking his apolitical stance to aggressively insist Ian didn't need to apologize for slurs and bigotry...).
Contrast that with "he said the N word a lot a few years back but hasn't done it recently" with no indication beyond that.
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Yeah. Guy does a few Nazi things and anti-Semitic things a few years ago and he has to live with that reputation forever?
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And come on, why are you living in the past? Just because Kanye straight off said some Nazi shit every few months? Dude, separate the art from the artist!Oh, and Kevin Spacey did a bit of rape back then. But it was so long ago!
And while we're here, Bill Cosby drugged those girls in the 70s. Like my dude, who wasn't a little edgy back then?
Yes, because those are all equivalent situations
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You're going to equate a word with being a Nazi and rape? Using a racial slur is literally a small subset of being a Nazi.
If you think calling people Jews was the big issue with the Nazis, well...
Nah I'm saying you say racist shit, you don't get off the hook.
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You're going to equate a word with being a Nazi and rape? Using a racial slur is literally a small subset of being a Nazi.
If you think calling people Jews was the big issue with the Nazis, well...
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some people in here are apparently perfect and don't believe others can grow and learn from their mistakes. what a childish self-centered perspective.
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Nah I'm saying you say racist shit, you don't get off the hook.
Is there an avenue to getting off the hook? Apologizing and not doing it again? Or does he lose everything for the rest of his life?
For context, I barely know who pewdiepie is. I just have to imagine that when public figures fuck up, maybe there's a spectrum of available consequences other than "they must lose their job and never been spoken of again."
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i don't really know if the linux community should be claiming the guy who casually drops the n word like he breathes air as our guy.
edit: JESUS FUCK y'all have too much time on your hands
Serious question.
Do you believe in rehabilitation? I think its admirable for someone to overcome their shortcomings. Especially considering that we are all products of our environments.
To my understanding he apologized for the horrific things he said in the past and is attempting to better himself as a person. I don't see him continuing to be a problematic person.
Who here hasn't said or done regrettable things?
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YouTuber…Degoogling
Nobody tell him.
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Is there an avenue to getting off the hook? Apologizing and not doing it again? Or does he lose everything for the rest of his life?
For context, I barely know who pewdiepie is. I just have to imagine that when public figures fuck up, maybe there's a spectrum of available consequences other than "they must lose their job and never been spoken of again."
I was thinking QtPie, who is a much nicer person.
Pretty sure PewDiePie is an ass, but "he said a racial slur once ten years ago" isn't a great argument against anyone, generally.
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YouTuber…Degoogling
Nobody tell him.
I don't see the problem here. Just because you upload stuff on Youtube doesn't mean you need to be tied to every other service. This isn't something like being a vegan where if you wear leather boots, you're not a "true vegan".
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Any idea of this guy made any significant impact when he installed Linux recently?
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Any idea of this guy made any significant impact when he installed Linux recently?
Linux has had a major increase in usership lately if I recall right, and supposedly windows has lost a major number of users (although mostly people dropping desktops for just phones).
No idea if PewDiePie contributed or not.
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Yeah. Guy does a few Nazi things and anti-Semitic things a few years ago and he has to live with that reputation forever?
.
And come on, why are you living in the past? Just because Kanye straight off said some Nazi shit every few months? Dude, separate the art from the artist!Oh, and Kevin Spacey did a bit of rape back then. But it was so long ago!
And while we're here, Bill Cosby drugged those girls in the 70s. Like my dude, who wasn't a little edgy back then?
For what it's worth, Kevin Spacey has not been found guilty of anything. He was found not liable in New York and acquitted in the UK.
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I don't see the problem here. Just because you upload stuff on Youtube doesn't mean you need to be tied to every other service. This isn't something like being a vegan where if you wear leather boots, you're not a "true vegan".
Black and White thinking is the death of any movement you're 100% spot on, everything has nuance
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What a roll model.
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YouTuber…Degoogling
Nobody tell him.
Yes let him remove his source of income in order to be the most rightous!!! It's respectable that he's doing it as much as he can
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i don't really know if the linux community should be claiming the guy who casually drops the n word like he breathes air as our guy.
edit: JESUS FUCK y'all have too much time on your hands
wrote on last edited by [email protected]I don't claim to know him but I think he was a foolish kid who is now learning the error of his ways. He never struck me as someone who was intentionally malicious but rather someone who is very uninformed and didn't realize it. He said it once in a stream, he used it to mean basically "asshole" when someone killed him. I'm sure he knew it was racist, but he probably didn't know the WHY to why it was or the real cultural significance it has in the US, he's swedish, he's so far removed from American culture. And I don't think he realized the impact of saying that and some of his other comments had on his young impressionable fans.
It SEEMS like he's becoming more politically left leaning and has unlearned some of his bias he had in the past. I don't know for sure but I hope he has.
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Is there an avenue to getting off the hook? Apologizing and not doing it again? Or does he lose everything for the rest of his life?
For context, I barely know who pewdiepie is. I just have to imagine that when public figures fuck up, maybe there's a spectrum of available consequences other than "they must lose their job and never been spoken of again."
wrote on last edited by [email protected]He didn't really apologize at all. He brushed it off, moved on, and then everyone pretended like it didn't exist.
His PR machine worked hard to clean up his mess.
Imagine if JK Rowling's got quiet then two years later, came back and everyone gaslight you into saying they just went through a phase.
And yet, I'm the one getting heavily down voted.
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Just to be clear: if someone has actively shown growth then I am all for them moving past shit (obviously the amount of growth required depends on the level of shitty before but). James Gunn being kind of the poster child for that where he was an edgelord dipshit when he was younger. But every time that comes up, almost everyone around him makes it clear that he has grown significantly and he owns up to it every time.
Like... look at idubbz. I, and many others, aren't sure if we can ever actually "forgive" him considering how much abuse we received because of people directly quoting his hate. But he also (at least briefly. Not sure what he has done since) made it a big point of actually APOLOGIZING. And... getting a lot of shit and hatred from other youtubers who refuse to apologize for their shittiness for whatever reason (shoutout to moistcritical for breaking his apolitical stance to aggressively insist Ian didn't need to apologize for slurs and bigotry...).
Contrast that with "he said the N word a lot a few years back but hasn't done it recently" with no indication beyond that.
He did give multiple apologies for using it tho and as far as I've known hasn't used the word in many years
