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Youtuber PewDiePie is going all in on deGoogling and the Steam Deck is one of the surprising tools that's helping him to 'escape'

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  • msmc101@lemmy.blahaj.zoneM [email protected]

    i don't really know if the linux community should be claiming the guy who casually drops the n word like he breathes air as our guy.

    edit: JESUS FUCK y'all have too much time on your hands

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    I don't claim to know him but I think he was a foolish kid who is now learning the error of his ways. He never struck me as someone who was intentionally malicious but rather someone who is very uninformed and didn't realize it. He said it once in a stream, he used it to mean basically "asshole" when someone killed him. I'm sure he knew it was racist, but he probably didn't know the WHY to why it was or the real cultural significance it has in the US, he's swedish, he's so far removed from American culture. And I don't think he realized the impact of saying that and some of his other comments had on his young impressionable fans.

    It SEEMS like he's becoming more politically left leaning and has unlearned some of his bias he had in the past. I don't know for sure but I hope he has.

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      Is there an avenue to getting off the hook? Apologizing and not doing it again? Or does he lose everything for the rest of his life?

      For context, I barely know who pewdiepie is. I just have to imagine that when public figures fuck up, maybe there's a spectrum of available consequences other than "they must lose their job and never been spoken of again."

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      He didn't really apologize at all. He brushed it off, moved on, and then everyone pretended like it didn't exist.

      His PR machine worked hard to clean up his mess.

      Imagine if JK Rowling's got quiet then two years later, came back and everyone gaslight you into saying they just went through a phase.

      And yet, I'm the one getting heavily down voted.

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        Just to be clear: if someone has actively shown growth then I am all for them moving past shit (obviously the amount of growth required depends on the level of shitty before but). James Gunn being kind of the poster child for that where he was an edgelord dipshit when he was younger. But every time that comes up, almost everyone around him makes it clear that he has grown significantly and he owns up to it every time.

        Like... look at idubbz. I, and many others, aren't sure if we can ever actually "forgive" him considering how much abuse we received because of people directly quoting his hate. But he also (at least briefly. Not sure what he has done since) made it a big point of actually APOLOGIZING. And... getting a lot of shit and hatred from other youtubers who refuse to apologize for their shittiness for whatever reason (shoutout to moistcritical for breaking his apolitical stance to aggressively insist Ian didn't need to apologize for slurs and bigotry...).

        Contrast that with "he said the N word a lot a few years back but hasn't done it recently" with no indication beyond that.

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        He did give multiple apologies for using it tho and as far as I've known hasn't used the word in many years

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          I am not a follower of his, but I am certainly an advocate for de-<insert mega tech company name here>ing having just finally rid myself of Micros**t, which was preceded by getting rid of almost all of the family streaming subs.

          The Steamdeck is actually a great device for this simply because it is a very functional pc in desktop mode. Throw in a Bluetooth mouse and keyboard, with even a generic dock and it can rival most laptops, especially with the added video capabilities it already has.

          I find myself using it as a pc almost as much as a gaming device, just because it works so well for both.

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            So I decided to look up the article, and see what the defense was.

            Here's the article: https://www.mediaite.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Screen-Shot-2019-09-19-at-16.04.33.jpg

            And indeed, it does seem to be a Vetements piece he's wearing. I could not however find the exact outfit, but those are the Georgian designer's signature, in Georgian letters, which can be compared here:

            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demna_(designer)

            In looking through some videos from that era, he is wearing multiple articles of clothing from Vetements which tracks. So it's not a one off piece of clothing he was wearing from that company.

            As for the cross, it is a design used in Georgia, including on their traditional flags:

            And it is known as a Bolnisi Cross

            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolnisi_cross

            And can even be found in ancient Georgian architecture, specifically with a circle around it:

            It is similar to the German iron cross, except the iron cross always has white or iron bolding, which the Bolnisi Cross does not

            (You can compare them in these search results: https://duckduckgo.com/?t=fpas&q=german+iron+cross&ia=images&iax=images)

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              Im obviously misunderstanding what they mean by "note taking" app, right?

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                YouTuber…Degoogling

                Nobody tell him.

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                I mean he already addressed that in his video to be fair lol

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                  Im obviously misunderstanding what they mean by "note taking" app, right?

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                  I'm wondering if that's something like Obsidian

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                    He didn't really apologize at all. He brushed it off, moved on, and then everyone pretended like it didn't exist.

                    His PR machine worked hard to clean up his mess.

                    Imagine if JK Rowling's got quiet then two years later, came back and everyone gaslight you into saying they just went through a phase.

                    And yet, I'm the one getting heavily down voted.

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                    Thanks for the context. I read your comment as "you don't get off the hook ever" which is not what you said.

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                    • candyman337@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

                      Black and White thinking is the death of any movement you're 100% spot on, everything has nuance

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                      dichotomous thinking is the pretentiously fun term

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                        Pretty interesting usage of his Steam Deck. I feel like it was overkill lol. But as he said, sometimes it's cool to just use what you have.

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                        • mtlvmpr@sopuli.xyzM [email protected]

                          I don't see the problem here. Just because you upload stuff on Youtube doesn't mean you need to be tied to every other service. This isn't something like being a vegan where if you wear leather boots, you're not a "true vegan".

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                          Even to your point about boots, there are some people who are vegan (by their definition) and wear leather boots. Arguments can be made that leather will (in specific circumstances) result in less animal harm in the long run, and while I don't personally justify leather this way, I can understand how some have these perspectives.

                          The real issue is labels. As soon as you apply one, you are subject to everyone else's understanding of that thing. In my experience, if you don't meet their understanding of said thing you're dismissed as not being a "true x", or it's "if you truly are X then why do you do y?"

                          This is why I never refer to myself as vegan/vegetarian and just "I don't eat meat" (or a more specific statement as needed).

                          I never say I'm a leftist/socialist I just gestures vaguely at American politics believe that's kinda fucked and shouldn't be done that way.

                          I even dislike saying I'm an urbanist because, even though I despise car-centric design, I've been called out for the sin of hiring a car when I visited my hometown last (generally I cycle everywhere or use PT, but I had an ankle injury so woe is me I guess)

                          At some level we're all hypocrites, ones intentions are far more important, and shouldn't be dismissed as easily as they are. What's more important is to align your actions with your beliefs, be open about what you believe in, be open-minded when someone's beliefs don't align with your own, be ready to adjust your beliefs based on new information and experiences but most of all:

                          Be kind.

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                            I am not a follower of his, but I am certainly an advocate for de-<insert mega tech company name here>ing having just finally rid myself of Micros**t, which was preceded by getting rid of almost all of the family streaming subs.

                            The Steamdeck is actually a great device for this simply because it is a very functional pc in desktop mode. Throw in a Bluetooth mouse and keyboard, with even a generic dock and it can rival most laptops, especially with the added video capabilities it already has.

                            I find myself using it as a pc almost as much as a gaming device, just because it works so well for both.

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                            I have been thinking about not replacing my laptop and just getting a steam deck (or a Lenovo?) kb, mouse and a bigger external screen if I need it.

                            Will that work ?

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                              If he’s “going all in on deGoogling”, perhaps he should be using a Youtube alternative?

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                              • blah3166@piefed.socialB [email protected]

                                some people in here are apparently perfect and don't believe others can grow and learn from their mistakes. what a childish self-centered perspective.

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                                only if you insist on treating being a Nazi as something white men grow out of with age

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                                  Funny how the comments in this thread went from "haha he's degoogling on YouTube?" to "do you believe in rehabilitation?" - "HE'S A NAZI!!!".

                                  It truly feels like back in the good old Reddit days. You either get popcorn or your pitchfork. There's nothing in-between.

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                                    only if you insist on treating being a Nazi as something white men grow out of with age

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                                    It may not be common, but it does happen:

                                    • My descent into America's neo-Nazi movement & how I got out | Christian Picciolini | TEDxMileHigh
                                    • Reformed racist expresses regret for previous life with KKK
                                    • My Life Inside A Neo-Nazi Group
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                                      If he’s “going all in on deGoogling”, perhaps he should be using a Youtube alternative?

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                                      Please list here all the alternatives that also pay their creators and let you run ads:

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                                        I mean he already addressed that in his video to be fair lol

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                                        You’re assuming OP watched the video at all 😁

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                                          only if you insist on treating being a Nazi as something white men grow out of with age

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                                          Are there other incurable states of mind that would require people to be shunned forever?

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