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  • C [email protected]

    Stop giving a fuck about that, work hard, eat right & exercise, get some great guy friends, community, get some hobbies you love.

    It's a great part of the human experience, but it's not worth rushing or forcing a fit. I know a handful of guys that forced the fit, wasn't worth it when they got run through the divorce courts. 😔

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    Thanks, right message at the right time!

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      Hot! 🔥🔥 Check your dms!

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      The last DM I got was Nicole, sadly.

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      • M [email protected]

        We need to normalize blaming monogamy for shitty monogamists the way people blame non-monogamy for shitty non-monogamists.

        Non-monogamy is the logical extension of unlearning person-ownership, which is objectively good.

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        Been there, didn't work out for me. I get the ownership argument and all, long-term perspective etc., but just going non-monogamous doesn't solve anything.

        Current hot take: it's more important that you really invest all the time, attention, effort, love they deserve into every person you want to have in your life. Personally, I can't do that for more than one other human. I even struggle with one.

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        • E [email protected]

          I suspect that ordinary avenues for meeting friends in one's 30's is also available for meeting partners, only you have to acknowledge that most of the people you meet aren't going to be single/interested.

          I'm an extrovert. I talk to strangers in certain settings, especially where waiting around is normal. One of my best friends, I met in line waiting to get into a standup comedy show. I've met other friends in line for concerts and sporting events, too. I've also met friends sitting at the bar or some kind of communal table of a restaurant, and connected over the food itself. It just takes the boldness of asking for contact information and then texting "it was nice to meet you today, great talking to you" and then sometimes that becomes a friendship.

          But pure strangers are hard to connect with in one interaction. Most of the friends I made after 30 were from repeated interactions over time: neighbors you see regularly, other regulars at the dog park/coffee shop, etc.

          And once you're in a mode where you can make friends, if some of them happen to be single and compatible, maybe you try going out on a date.

          And yes, this means that sometimes you'll meet people at the gym, or at their place of work, or other circumstances where it's frowned upon to hit on strangers. But making the friendship bridge first can give you that read on the situation of whether they're actually open to dating.

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          Interesting.

          Is it just that younger people experience more social anxiety or that it's now frowned upon to be hit on? I used to be hit on a lot between the ages of 19 and 25; it felt gross sometimes but it was the norm. There seems to be more anxiety these days to meet people face to face. I wonder if social media has anything to do with it.

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          • ivanafterall@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

            I can't wait for TRUMPDate. Make America Date Again. Can't go wrong.

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            But the date is August 2, 1934

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            • M [email protected]

              I think we should make dating apps even worse, and just let humanity die out naturally.

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              I bet that the Pandas would step in and keep us going.

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              • C [email protected]

                “Rather than require specific outcomes–such as achieving maximum share price–fiduciary duties are largely about conduct, process, and motivation”

                You don't have a fiduciary responsibility to maximize profit, or anything like that. You have a responsibility to act in accordance to company rules and guidelines, and to act in the company's interest, not your own.

                There is no requirement to burn to company down to maximize short-term profits, like some people think. That's usually at the expense of long-term profits anyway, so it could be better for profits to do something better for the customer.

                You're only required to act "ethically" and keep the company's interests above your own.

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                If the company has a goal to make more money every year, then you can justify a lot of actions in that pursuit. And once they have a monopoly you kinda don't have many options, so they can push more.

                Saying they have a responsibility to keep you on the app may sound silly, but app user churn is most likely measured and has some goal around it. And if a goal is set around that churn then they very much have an obligation to keep you on there as long as possible.

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                  I think we should make dating apps even worse, and just let humanity die out naturally.

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                  oh dont worry. The right wingers will murder us all soon.

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                  • ivanafterall@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

                    I can't wait for TRUMPDate. Make America Date Again. Can't go wrong.

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                    yes, and women will be required to use it and have babies with the incels on it.

                    Its that or prison, ladies!

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                    • M [email protected]

                      the sea is full of plenty of fish. (although these days not so plentifully)

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                      A lot of the fish that are left are radioactive and full of poison.

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                        Pretty sure Tinder shadow banned me for some reason. I saw the same people constantly.

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                        check out https://www.truublue.com/

                        dating for progressive singles. And check out the ginger lady at the bottom of the front page-- I couldnt say no after seeing that.

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                        • beebabe@lemmy.worldB [email protected]

                          Millennial here. Have recently dabbled with the apps. Honestly the guys I was shown were not objectively bad looking. Many of them were pretty attractive. But not my type at all. My interests were books and video games and nerdy sweetness…and it kept recommending me muscle gym divorced military dads. So I gave up.

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                          Which app? Cause I can't find the nerdy girls.

                          The algorithm just pushes all these women who are wanting someone who will house them and take them on worldly vacations.

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                            Which app? Cause I can't find the nerdy girls.

                            The algorithm just pushes all these women who are wanting someone who will house them and take them on worldly vacations.

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                            I tried bumble and hinge, got the ick, and gave up. Yeah, I’ve heard people saying something similar; going on about women looking to be housed. It’s such a huge turnoff and it makes me consider their financial insecurity, to be honest.

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                              Perhaps, but we would need to put the idea in practice to determine what's the cause/effect relationship here.

                              Are people more addicted to their screens because the real world became hostile, or is the real world becoming hostile because people are glued to their screens?

                              I'd bet on the first option, but I could be wrong.

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                              Real relationships require a vulnerability that dating apps can not provide

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                              • O [email protected]

                                Sorry if I come off like a butthole but I'm both curious yet dubious of the idea. I feel like people probably have thought about it but they probably ran into the same problems you'll run into.

                                You didn't quite answer my question. Where are you getting revenue? Eg. Subscription, one-time fees for X, grants, investments, etc?

                                Duallingo started like a non-profit but even their revenue with its massive userbase couldn't cover their expenses so they had to compromise hard to keep the lights on. The same happened to Coffee Meets Bagel. Hinge started with the same premise of "this app is meant to be deleted" but they also had to compromise and eventually sold to Match Group.

                                Also, I feel like gay men are a unique demographic that has higher that average engagement so Grindr is probably in a uniquely advantaged position to resist enshitification.

                                I guess I'm just saying it's probably in practice a cost center like city infrastructure or schools or research, so it might only work without heavy compromises if it's also funded by taxes.

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                                It’s almost as if men are a little bit hornier than women…

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                                • beebabe@lemmy.worldB [email protected]

                                  I tried bumble and hinge, got the ick, and gave up. Yeah, I’ve heard people saying something similar; going on about women looking to be housed. It’s such a huge turnoff and it makes me consider their financial insecurity, to be honest.

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                                  Most people seem to accept living on debt or handouts. It's strange. I see everyone around me (both sexes) acting the same. So it's not even a dating app issue, I think it's a people issue. Offer nothing and expect everything in return. Maybe it's an American thing?

                                  I don't want to be grouped into incel mentality, but is there a dating app to meet people from another country?

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                                    Sorry if I come off like a butthole but I'm both curious yet dubious of the idea. I feel like people probably have thought about it but they probably ran into the same problems you'll run into.

                                    You didn't quite answer my question. Where are you getting revenue? Eg. Subscription, one-time fees for X, grants, investments, etc?

                                    Duallingo started like a non-profit but even their revenue with its massive userbase couldn't cover their expenses so they had to compromise hard to keep the lights on. The same happened to Coffee Meets Bagel. Hinge started with the same premise of "this app is meant to be deleted" but they also had to compromise and eventually sold to Match Group.

                                    Also, I feel like gay men are a unique demographic that has higher that average engagement so Grindr is probably in a uniquely advantaged position to resist enshitification.

                                    I guess I'm just saying it's probably in practice a cost center like city infrastructure or schools or research, so it might only work without heavy compromises if it's also funded by taxes.

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                                    Where are we getting the funds for Lemmy and its instances?

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                                    • M [email protected]

                                      I think we should make dating apps even worse, and just let humanity die out naturally.

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                                      Schopenhauer did say as much I suppose. Except for the Tinder bit. Now to pin him as a millennial or a Gen Z...

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                                      • C [email protected]

                                        Most people seem to accept living on debt or handouts. It's strange. I see everyone around me (both sexes) acting the same. So it's not even a dating app issue, I think it's a people issue. Offer nothing and expect everything in return. Maybe it's an American thing?

                                        I don't want to be grouped into incel mentality, but is there a dating app to meet people from another country?

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                                        I don’t know, it could be your immediate environment. I certainly noticed this behavior in some friend groups, but not others. I don’t think you need to go that far to avoid the behavior. Just be vigilant and expect reciprocity.

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                                        • M [email protected]

                                          My husband is 38, we're eachothers best friend. Feeling alone even in company is a sign of depression, which we both have, and both have had, since we were children.

                                          I'm glad to be there for him on his off days, and he's there for me in mine. That's what it's about no? He doesn't see me as a "dick servicer" though, so maybe that's the difference.

                                          I'm sorry you so feel alone no matter what though, must be difficult getting through some days

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                                          I don't believe you. I do not believe a woman is there for a man in his off days. I've never seen that. Women do not support men, supporting a man is misogyny. They go on social media claiming to be "strong and independent" always in that order, and demanding heights and salaries that they will begrudgingly fuck for. "You take me on enough expensive dates and I might stoop to fucking you."

                                          That's what the modern online-only strangers-only dating scene looks like. You will be alone with or without these women.

                                          Look up "spool of wire guy."

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