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Nintendo is restricting the Switch 2's USB-C port — most third-party docks and accessories won't work thanks to proprietary protocols

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  • jraccoon@discuss.tchncs.deJ [email protected]

    While I don't support them doing it, I'm a bit out of the loop on why third-party docks are even needed? What's wrong with the original dock? I'm genuinely curious, I had Switch 1 for 5+ years and it never occurred to me to even look at any third-party docks.

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    The switch 2 dock is $120. Thats why 3rd party docks. Regardless if the reason a person wants to buy one, it should not be $120. Its a PCB with like 2 chips, a fan, 2 usb ports and an Ethernet port. You can buy a 16gb Pi 5 for that price.

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      Classic Nintendo.

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        The switch 2 dock is $120. Thats why 3rd party docks. Regardless if the reason a person wants to buy one, it should not be $120. Its a PCB with like 2 chips, a fan, 2 usb ports and an Ethernet port. You can buy a 16gb Pi 5 for that price.

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        Yeah, just checked the price myself too. $120 is just robbery. I hope 3rd party manufacturers will figure out how to make their stuff work with Switch 2.

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          You will buy their dock and you will love it, or else.

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            This shit should be illegal. Apple got smacked by the EU for this exact practice. Do we think that will applied evenly?

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              No, Switch 1 was non-compliant as well.

              Making USB-C chargers and docks is cheap and easy, there's thousands on the market.
              But Nintendo had to be assholes and did things their way, as usual.

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              Yeah, that's what I'm saying, both are non-compliant but Switch 1 had no sort of guardrail in place to prevent that chip from being fed 9 or 15 volts.

              Dumb design to put the thing responsible for delivering 6 volts on the dock as opposed to placing it in the console itself but at least the Switch 2 won't just fry itself like the Switch 1

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                It’s not like the official Nintendo accessories are even that good. Even their nicer quality stuff has weird bugs or issues they never fix. Hell, I’d even venture to say their console quality has rapidly declined since the GameCube. The Switch 2 screen has shit response time. The Wii was a GameCube with new lipstick. I don’t care about this company at all anymore, but this seals the deal.

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                • broadfern@lemmy.worldB [email protected]

                  I don’t think I’ve ever actively been put off of wanting a new console before this. Lukewarm feelings or too poor, sure.

                  I love my original Switch and (most of) its first-party titles but each new article about its successor is making me want a Steam Deck instead.

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                  I got a Steam Deck shortly after the Switch 2 price reveal and love it. I wish I'd gotten one years ago, but better late than never.

                  I don’t think I’ve ever actively been put off of wanting a new console before this.

                  Weren't around for this one? It put me off Xbox forever, which turned out to be the right decision.

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                    And this and other reasons are why I haven't bought one yet. Think I'll just keep using the steam deck and switch 1 instead.

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                    i'll just emulate switch 1 on my deck then... together with any other nintendo old consoles.

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                    • samus12345@sh.itjust.worksS [email protected]

                      I got a Steam Deck shortly after the Switch 2 price reveal and love it. I wish I'd gotten one years ago, but better late than never.

                      I don’t think I’ve ever actively been put off of wanting a new console before this.

                      Weren't around for this one? It put me off Xbox forever, which turned out to be the right decision.

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                      I was in elementary school when the 360 came out, so no, I wasn’t aware at the time of the corporate smarm coming from Microsoft.

                      You’re right to be put off of it though, MS is…yeah.

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                        Nintendo….please stop. I love your games, I love your products… this type of shit is so unnecessary and exhausting…

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                        • jraccoon@discuss.tchncs.deJ [email protected]

                          While I don't support them doing it, I'm a bit out of the loop on why third-party docks are even needed? What's wrong with the original dock? I'm genuinely curious, I had Switch 1 for 5+ years and it never occurred to me to even look at any third-party docks.

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                          I've wanted one for if I want to use my PC monitor instead of the TV, and throught a compact connector would be nicer than the standard dock to take up less space. Never did go for the third party dock though, since was afraid of the possibility of bricking.

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                            "restricted" and "most". So how do some work then? The system is pretty dang new. Lots of developers couldn't even get dev kits yet. I'll wait and see before I get all upset that there aren't 3rd party docks that I don't have a need for or would buy anyways.

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                              "restricted" and "most". So how do some work then? The system is pretty dang new. Lots of developers couldn't even get dev kits yet. I'll wait and see before I get all upset that there aren't 3rd party docks that I don't have a need for or would buy anyways.

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                              Wasn't there something with the original switch where third-party usb-c didn't work with it off the bat either? I thought it ended up being something about Nintendo actually following the spec more rigidly than others did.

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                                Oh don't worry, it'll get hacked like everything does.

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                                  Oh don't worry, it'll get hacked like everything does.

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                                  I'm personally banking on them getting Sony OtherOS'd, they've done a fair amount of pissing highly skilled people off

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                                    This shit should be illegal. Apple got smacked by the EU for this exact practice. Do we think that will applied evenly?

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                                    USB fourm should sue them for using the USB name and not bring compliant

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                                    • mushuchupacabra@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                                      My simple workaround is not buying a Switch 2.

                                      Show me contempt, and I'll show you zero dollars.

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                                      For real. I've owned EVERY Nintendo console from NES to Switch. Home consoles and mobile ones.

                                      First time I didn't pick up a Nintendo console. They have buckets of money. There's no need to turn to the dark side...

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                                        Wasn't there something with the original switch where third-party usb-c didn't work with it off the bat either? I thought it ended up being something about Nintendo actually following the spec more rigidly than others did.

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                                        There was an issue with running the dock on anything but their cable or something like that ya.

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                                          I was in elementary school when the 360 came out, so no, I wasn’t aware at the time of the corporate smarm coming from Microsoft.

                                          You’re right to be put off of it though, MS is…yeah.

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                                          This was the Xbox One release. In the initial announcement it was all online, all the time with fully Digital licening. As you can imagine, uproar followed. This was their reasoning for everyone who couldn't download a few TB of games and updates on the regular. They relented on almost all of their points, but the damage was done.

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