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Nintendo is restricting the Switch 2's USB-C port — most third-party docks and accessories won't work thanks to proprietary protocols

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    Nintendo….please stop. I love your games, I love your products… this type of shit is so unnecessary and exhausting…

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    • jraccoon@discuss.tchncs.deJ [email protected]

      While I don't support them doing it, I'm a bit out of the loop on why third-party docks are even needed? What's wrong with the original dock? I'm genuinely curious, I had Switch 1 for 5+ years and it never occurred to me to even look at any third-party docks.

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      I've wanted one for if I want to use my PC monitor instead of the TV, and throught a compact connector would be nicer than the standard dock to take up less space. Never did go for the third party dock though, since was afraid of the possibility of bricking.

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        "restricted" and "most". So how do some work then? The system is pretty dang new. Lots of developers couldn't even get dev kits yet. I'll wait and see before I get all upset that there aren't 3rd party docks that I don't have a need for or would buy anyways.

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          "restricted" and "most". So how do some work then? The system is pretty dang new. Lots of developers couldn't even get dev kits yet. I'll wait and see before I get all upset that there aren't 3rd party docks that I don't have a need for or would buy anyways.

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          Wasn't there something with the original switch where third-party usb-c didn't work with it off the bat either? I thought it ended up being something about Nintendo actually following the spec more rigidly than others did.

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            Oh don't worry, it'll get hacked like everything does.

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              Oh don't worry, it'll get hacked like everything does.

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              I'm personally banking on them getting Sony OtherOS'd, they've done a fair amount of pissing highly skilled people off

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                This shit should be illegal. Apple got smacked by the EU for this exact practice. Do we think that will applied evenly?

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                USB fourm should sue them for using the USB name and not bring compliant

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                • mushuchupacabra@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                  My simple workaround is not buying a Switch 2.

                  Show me contempt, and I'll show you zero dollars.

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                  For real. I've owned EVERY Nintendo console from NES to Switch. Home consoles and mobile ones.

                  First time I didn't pick up a Nintendo console. They have buckets of money. There's no need to turn to the dark side...

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                    Wasn't there something with the original switch where third-party usb-c didn't work with it off the bat either? I thought it ended up being something about Nintendo actually following the spec more rigidly than others did.

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                    There was an issue with running the dock on anything but their cable or something like that ya.

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                    • broadfern@lemmy.worldB [email protected]

                      I was in elementary school when the 360 came out, so no, I wasn’t aware at the time of the corporate smarm coming from Microsoft.

                      You’re right to be put off of it though, MS is…yeah.

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                      This was the Xbox One release. In the initial announcement it was all online, all the time with fully Digital licening. As you can imagine, uproar followed. This was their reasoning for everyone who couldn't download a few TB of games and updates on the regular. They relented on almost all of their points, but the damage was done.

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                        USB fourm should sue them for using the USB name and not bring compliant

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                        lol, then they'd have no time for anything else. usb-c is so complicated that basically nobody is compliant.

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                          Then it's not a USB-C port.

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                            lol, then they'd have no time for anything else. usb-c is so complicated that basically nobody is compliant.

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                            Time for USB-D.

                            My suggestion is a ridiculous round plug where the bottom three/four contacts are a standard 3.5mm audio connector and then you have like twelve extra (narrower) contacts at the top.

                            A TRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRS jack.

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                              Time for USB-D.

                              My suggestion is a ridiculous round plug where the bottom three/four contacts are a standard 3.5mm audio connector and then you have like twelve extra (narrower) contacts at the top.

                              A TRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRS jack.

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                              i think this is an old nanoraptor bit

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                                Then it's not a USB-C port.

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                                It's a SB-C port then

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                                  If it's most, and not all, they are not locked out. If 3rd party releases a product that doesn't work, that sounds like it's on them. I've never bought a Nintendo device, but it's so easy to think this is all on them.

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                                    "restricted" and "most". So how do some work then? The system is pretty dang new. Lots of developers couldn't even get dev kits yet. I'll wait and see before I get all upset that there aren't 3rd party docks that I don't have a need for or would buy anyways.

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                                    because it's supposed to be usb. Which it's not, intentionally

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                                      I do wonder why they decide to do this. Replacement Nintendo docks probably aren't a big money maker. Maybe they did HDCP (HDMI copy protection for movies and such, used for YouTube and such when they finally get it working) on dock side for Switch 2 so this is their attempt to stop people getting the video feed in between? Just speculation though, and I might be very wrong.

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                                      The Switch 2 dock has built in fans.

                                      The protocol enforces you to use the correct gear, preventing damage to the console and user.

                                      I'm not knowledgeable enough on the standards to know if this can be enforced otherwise, but it sounds like a typical "Nintendo Quality" feature.

                                      From what I gather, they use standard protocols for the webcam, so it seems more of a protective measure to me than the evil shit people are making up here. Otherwise, I'd expect them to lock down everything.

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                                        It's Nintendo, did people really expect anything else?

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                                          Basically Apple.

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