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    It looks so marketing driven.

    We are in decades of video games. Look at very old game and assess how "ugly" they are by today's standard while at their time they were "the best graphics ever seen in history!" or something.

    And so, the big question: we were having fun with games decades ago already. If graphics were part of the fun, your brain should explode under the immensely higher level of fun you have on modern games vs 20y old games. And… well…nope. Same as before, just higher expectations.

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    Are you perhaps retarded? Do you not understand that expectations change with current technology? Daily life must be immensely difficult for you

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    • capuccino@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

      REbirth sure does look better than Fortnite, and REbirth sure does need a ton less of GPU and CPU.

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      It looks like dog shit, what the fuck are you talking about

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        very well said. I think the last time i got excited about graphics was when Final Fantasy X came out lol. then they kept getting more realistic but never actually became real, they stayed video games. even VR. so... maybe graphics aren't what we need to keep working on

        EDIT: *aren't, not are, FUCK. I'm saying no matter how much graphics improve, it's still just a video game, good or bad

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        Games going for that uncanny valley aesthetic and not being nearly as efficient. I don't want a 1000W PSU just to run my graphics card.

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          That's remastered...

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          I noticed that too, but I do think that the anon is talking about the remaster since he's also talking about Windows 98 and the remaster was out in 2002 while the original game was out in 1996. I know fuck all about the production of the remake, but maybe windows 98 was all they had available to them and maybe they did draw all the textures themselves for it. It'd have to look into that, though.

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            Am I stupid? Don't a lot games look like this in real time rendered graphics nowadays? What's anon talking about.

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            Only if you like smudges due to upscaling and TAA.

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              I will never understand the obsession around graphics. JUST MAKE IT FUN.

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              Seriously, way too many games are just generic garbage that advertise only on "look how realistic my game is, you're not a true gamer if the games you play don't make your computer sound like a jet engine!"

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                If you have the talent and manpower to create your own engine, it’s better business to make that engine your product instead of whatever game you wanted to make.

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                The advantage of making your own engine is that you can specialize for your specific gameplay.

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                • hupf@feddit.orgH [email protected]

                  It's the ass as well.

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                  don't forget the dick and balls, I don't

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                  • adrianthefrog@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                    The advantage of making your own engine is that you can specialize for your specific gameplay.

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                    If your game is something that needs it, definitely go for it.

                    Something like Noita comes to mind

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                      It's not laziness, it's bottom line and chasing the dollar. Management doesn't give a shit about optimization, just MVP (minimum viable product). Speaking as a developer, the mindset of 'we will fix it after deployment' is fucking everywhere.

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                      It's also diminishing returns of investment. The more realistic you want to go, the more work you have to put in. Also more realism will mean certain other things will look even more jarring, so you're having a much higher standard for bugfixes.

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                        I will never understand the obsession around graphics. JUST MAKE IT FUN.

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                        Here’s the reason AAA devs are obsessed with graphics:

                        It’s the only thing that differentiates them from indie devs.

                        Once you realize that indie devs can do anything and everything that a AAA game can do, except for creating tons of high detail 3D models, levels, and textures, you begin to see the AAA studio’s dilemma. If they don’t hire all those artists, level designers, and animators then they’re forced to compete with indie devs on gameplay, story, and features — none of which they can do!

                        Why is that? Because there are millions of indie game devs out there who are willing to spend many years of their lives trying out ideas that have close to zero chance of being successful and all the gamers out there are happy to pick that one in a million game which actually succeeds! For a AAA studio to step into that arena would be absolutely foolish.

                        It’s the same reason big corporations dominate book publishing but they don’t even bother trying to write books themselves.

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                          It's also diminishing returns of investment. The more realistic you want to go, the more work you have to put in. Also more realism will mean certain other things will look even more jarring, so you're having a much higher standard for bugfixes.

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                          Well yes, obviously it's a balancing act when making things look good, but optimization is about making what is there run well, not look better.

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                            I will never understand the obsession around graphics. JUST MAKE IT FUN.

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                            I will never understand the obsession around computer-crashingly good graphics. They push your temps to the max and computer components don't start throttling themselves until the temps are a little too high so that your shit will stop working sooner so you have to buy a new gpu sooner. Why can't they let us control the thermal throttling temp, huh? Fuck that 99 degree celsius shit. "99c is acceptable temps for laptops and gpus" my ass.

                            Pixel art isn't a necessarily a positive selling point to me but if the game is good and the graphics are good enough to be able to tell what's going on without having to get high on drugs first, then its fine by me. Ps2 or xbox 360 era 3d graphics are the sweet spot though. I'm glad they finally added actual graphics to Dwarf Fortress, it's actually playable now. If the msdos installation process has better graphics then a game then that's pushing things little too far imho.

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                              I will never understand the obsession around computer-crashingly good graphics. They push your temps to the max and computer components don't start throttling themselves until the temps are a little too high so that your shit will stop working sooner so you have to buy a new gpu sooner. Why can't they let us control the thermal throttling temp, huh? Fuck that 99 degree celsius shit. "99c is acceptable temps for laptops and gpus" my ass.

                              Pixel art isn't a necessarily a positive selling point to me but if the game is good and the graphics are good enough to be able to tell what's going on without having to get high on drugs first, then its fine by me. Ps2 or xbox 360 era 3d graphics are the sweet spot though. I'm glad they finally added actual graphics to Dwarf Fortress, it's actually playable now. If the msdos installation process has better graphics then a game then that's pushing things little too far imho.

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                              yep. Elden Ring is an example... cant even play that game without my fans going nuts. I didnt even buy the DLC expansion yet... taking a break until I get a better PC. Being a patient gamer means always having cool games to look forward to, someday far in the future lol

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                              • hupf@feddit.orgH [email protected]

                                Graphics and jiggly physics.

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                                some ps2 games had boob jiggle physics.

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                                  If your game is something that needs it, definitely go for it.

                                  Something like Noita comes to mind

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                                  Factorio to i believe

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