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  • twig@sopuli.xyzT [email protected]

    Nationalised oil probably helps too

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    Same in France. We don't have oil but we have strikes.

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    • spankmonkey@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

      Quiet quitting is just doing your job/acting your wage.

      People on the internet love to make dramatic sounding names for normal stuff.

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      To be fair, "quiet quitting" is a labour action that goes back decades if not centuries. A more common name is "work(ing) to rule".

      I remember that term from when my teachers were preparing to strike a long while ago. The fact is, most workers, teachers especially, go beyond the bare minimums that their jobs require. It made a big difference when teachers who used to supervise after-school activities just went home instead. In jobs that are associated with "vocational awe", it's very common for people to do much more than the minimum requirements for their jobs, so when they engage in a "work to rule" campaign, there's a really big difference.

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        Nationalised oil probably helps too

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        No, it is pretty standard European fare.

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          FYI travel nursing and locum tenens were around before the pandemic and still happening after. Seasonality occurs in different regions due to snow birds (aging boomers with a vacation home) for the most part.

          Also travel is still going to pay more than a staff nurse when comparing a single area.

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          Post pandemic the contracts profess to pay the same as staff but those contracts are taking the room/board stipend, blending it with the hourly rate, and presenting it all as hourly income, when the stipend isn’t something that should count against income when in fact, stipend is only allowable by the IRS in situations where living expenses are duplicated.

          In essence what these new contracts are doing is not acknowledging expense duplication, as if these nurses don’t already have a rent or mortgage, alongside all the household bills like renters insurance or electricity, that continue to be paid in tandem with a long term furnished rental in another state. And are they even accumulating retirement beyond an IRA?

          The 2 weeks off is also unpaid. The strangest expense detail is this. Income tax is paid to each state which is somehow legal under the contracted circumstances. The home state and the state worked.

          While the details are fascinating, that is not my point in bringing it up. I’m more interested in the work pattern. 13 wks on. 2 wks off. The nurses who talk about travel love it, even when the pay is lower than what staffers make either with the blended rate or after subtracting room/board stipends. As such, I think we need to look to the work pattern.

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            if this becomes a thing we need to make "fire-sale" a euphemism for a literal fire.

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              I do that, but i've been wfh since 2015 so every day i have mini holidays in between workflow

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              You mean lunch break?

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                Post pandemic the contracts profess to pay the same as staff but those contracts are taking the room/board stipend, blending it with the hourly rate, and presenting it all as hourly income, when the stipend isn’t something that should count against income when in fact, stipend is only allowable by the IRS in situations where living expenses are duplicated.

                In essence what these new contracts are doing is not acknowledging expense duplication, as if these nurses don’t already have a rent or mortgage, alongside all the household bills like renters insurance or electricity, that continue to be paid in tandem with a long term furnished rental in another state. And are they even accumulating retirement beyond an IRA?

                The 2 weeks off is also unpaid. The strangest expense detail is this. Income tax is paid to each state which is somehow legal under the contracted circumstances. The home state and the state worked.

                While the details are fascinating, that is not my point in bringing it up. I’m more interested in the work pattern. 13 wks on. 2 wks off. The nurses who talk about travel love it, even when the pay is lower than what staffers make either with the blended rate or after subtracting room/board stipends. As such, I think we need to look to the work pattern.

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                Part of the reason I bought it up is because the amount for the travel is higher that most nurses are taking longer than 2 weeks off. I personally know several that take a month off before starting a new contract.

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                  Nationalised oil probably helps too

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                  4 weeks by law in the Netherlands, usually the union adds another week to that.

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                    Hi, Norwegian here, we have 5 weeks vacation per year, mandated by law. Oh, and the government takes 10% of your paycheck every month and pays it all out in July, so you have the money to go on vacation. Strong labor unions is the recipe.

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                    American here. I work for a company that gives 5 weeks per year. It's great. I can take a 1-2 week vacation in the summer and various days and weeks off throughout the year. It doesn't hurt that my boss is great and almost never says no to time off. "Hey, this project is draining. I could really use a week off for mental recovery. It looks like nobody is off next week." "Go for it."

                    It's possible, fellow Americans. Unions are the way.

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                      4 weeks by law in the Netherlands, usually the union adds another week to that.

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                      Nationalised natural gas probably helps too

                      j/k am Dutch

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                      • merc@sh.itjust.worksM [email protected]

                        To be fair, "quiet quitting" is a labour action that goes back decades if not centuries. A more common name is "work(ing) to rule".

                        I remember that term from when my teachers were preparing to strike a long while ago. The fact is, most workers, teachers especially, go beyond the bare minimums that their jobs require. It made a big difference when teachers who used to supervise after-school activities just went home instead. In jobs that are associated with "vocational awe", it's very common for people to do much more than the minimum requirements for their jobs, so when they engage in a "work to rule" campaign, there's a really big difference.

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                        Yes, that is the same thing as

                        doing your job/acting your wage

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                          I work in educational support on a 10-month contract. I am paid for the built in holidays and I save a little and take the summer off. I think it is a good work/life balance.

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                            Nationalised oil probably helps too

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                            We have pumpkin seed oil in Austria, and apparently its enough to give us 5 weeks PTO per year, 2 weeks of paid nursing leave and up to 72 sick weeks for a single illness.

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                              You mean lunch break?

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                              If i meant lunch break i'd say lunch break

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                                No, it is pretty standard European fare.

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                                Yeah, well.... Not being founded by insane protochristofascists probably helps?

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                                  Hi, Norwegian here, we have 5 weeks vacation per year, mandated by law. Oh, and the government takes 10% of your paycheck every month and pays it all out in July, so you have the money to go on vacation. Strong labor unions is the recipe.

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                                  aussie here. 4 weeks. required by law.

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                                    Hi, Norwegian here, we have 5 weeks vacation per year, mandated by law. Oh, and the government takes 10% of your paycheck every month and pays it all out in July, so you have the money to go on vacation. Strong labor unions is the recipe.

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                                    My vacation money usually goes to taxes each year as a Dutch citizen.

                                    It's a sick joke imo. "Here's the money we took from your wage for vacation, but also here are the tax bills that are equal to that amount".

                                    Thanks i hate it.

                                    I'm saving up my own wage for retirement and investing it myself because i have zero trust in these systems. I watched my dad get screwed out of a large part of his retirement money.

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                                      I think it's probably a typo caused by AI and a lack of editing. As i understood it, a micro retirement is taking between several months and a year long sabbatical after 1-2 years of working, which is a bit more interesting than 1-2 weeks. So basically, it's working 1 year and taking a break from work for 1 year (whatever that entails, personal project, travel, possibly doing nothing at all).

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                                      That's what i expected when it said "micro retirement"...something worthwhile like 6 months+

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                                        Part of the reason I bought it up is because the amount for the travel is higher that most nurses are taking longer than 2 weeks off. I personally know several that take a month off before starting a new contract.

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                                        If it financially works, then that is brilliant.

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                                          Give burnout a chance

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