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I'm stupid, can someone explain to me how this is illegal? Like morally questionable I get, but how is it illegal?
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I'm stupid, can someone explain to me how this is illegal? Like morally questionable I get, but how is it illegal?
According to a quick Google fraud in Japan is
obtaining property or illicit economic advantages through deceit.
Gifts I assume are property here
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Seems to fit the official definition pretty neatly. Colloquially, I tend to agree with you, there's a spectrum for fraud. But this still counts as fraud. It's a fraudulent misrepresentation of the truth to convince others to part with something of value (a gift).
The fact that it's a gift doesn't change that this is fraud, only the severity of fraud in a legal sense.
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- dictionary definition: not an official, legal definition.
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Monkey's paw curls. Now abortions are legal and forced.
I thought Monkeys Paw had adverse outcomes.
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I'm stupid, can someone explain to me how this is illegal? Like morally questionable I get, but how is it illegal?
I'm definitely not a legal expert, especially for Japan.
but this sounds like a con artist.
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It's pretty much the textbook definition of fraud. What are you talking about?
Fraud is defined as intentional deception to deprive a victim of a legal right or to gain unlawfully from a victim.
That's what most politicians do every election. Just saying.
laws don't apply to politicians you silly
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great, y'all want to get into Japanese criminal legal definitions?
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intentional perversion of truth in order to induce another to part with something of value
Advertising and politics?
laws don't apply to politicians.
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According to a quick Google fraud in Japan is
obtaining property or illicit economic advantages through deceit.
Gifts I assume are property here
Jesus Christ! Can we get some of that law in the US?!
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According to a quick Google fraud in Japan is
obtaining property or illicit economic advantages through deceit.
Gifts I assume are property here
So like...makeup?
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Your grandma having dementia changes the formula a bit.
Not really, no. It's still using deception for material gain through gift giving. Maybe it's more of an extreme case, but I was being hyperbolic.
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Not really, no. It's still using deception for material gain through gift giving. Maybe it's more of an extreme case, but I was being hyperbolic.
It is materially different because a person with dementia can’t legally advocate for themselves so it is easier for an action against them to be considered a crime.
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Jesus Christ! Can we get some of that law in the US?!
We do - romance scams are fraud, and they're illegal.
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It’s a poor definition because gift exchanges are strictly voluntary and non-reciprocal engagements. I’m not saying what he did was ok or even legal in other contexts. My only point is that I wouldn’t consider this fraud because the victims were not compelled to give. This isn’t a Nigerian prince scam where the victims were promised greater returns at a later date. These victims gave with the expectation of monetary loss.
By that logic, fake fundraisers and romance scams shouldn't be illegal either.
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Jesus Christ! Can we get some of that law in the US?!
Best I can do is legalizing corruption and then spend billion dollars on public programs explaining how lobbying helps the people, not capitalism
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We do - romance scams are fraud, and they're illegal.
Enforcement is the issue. Cops in the USA wouldn't care about this.
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Do you get someone a gift if you're only known them for a week? Serious question.
Depends on how bad you're down.
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Do you get someone a gift if you're only known them for a week? Serious question.
Maybe he was after small gifts like a cupcake?
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Jesus Christ! Can we get some of that law in the US?!
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It is materially different because a person with dementia can’t legally advocate for themselves so it is easier for an action against them to be considered a crime.
It's still using deception for material gain. Just because it's harder to scam someone without dementia doesn't make it not fraud.
