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  • B [email protected]

    Monkey's paw curls. Now abortions are legal and forced.

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    I thought Monkeys Paw had adverse outcomes.

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    • F [email protected]

      I'm stupid, can someone explain to me how this is illegal? Like morally questionable I get, but how is it illegal?

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      I'm definitely not a legal expert, especially for Japan.

      but this sounds like a con artist.

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      • F [email protected]

        It's pretty much the textbook definition of fraud. What are you talking about?

        Fraud is defined as intentional deception to deprive a victim of a legal right or to gain unlawfully from a victim.

        That's what most politicians do every election. Just saying.

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        laws don't apply to politicians you silly

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          1. image of text: there's this cool alternative called text that doesn't break the web or accessibility. linking to source & quoting text makes an altogether better web for everyone.
          2. dictionary definition: not an official, legal definition.
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          great, y'all want to get into Japanese criminal legal definitions?

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            intentional perversion of truth in order to induce another to part with something of value

            Advertising and politics?

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            laws don't apply to politicians.

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              According to a quick Google fraud in Japan is

              obtaining property or illicit economic advantages through deceit.

              Gifts I assume are property here

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              Jesus Christ! Can we get some of that law in the US?!

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              • T [email protected]

                According to a quick Google fraud in Japan is

                obtaining property or illicit economic advantages through deceit.

                Gifts I assume are property here

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                So like...makeup?

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                • knight_alva@lemmy.worldK [email protected]

                  Your grandma having dementia changes the formula a bit.

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                  Not really, no. It's still using deception for material gain through gift giving. Maybe it's more of an extreme case, but I was being hyperbolic.

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                  • O [email protected]

                    Not really, no. It's still using deception for material gain through gift giving. Maybe it's more of an extreme case, but I was being hyperbolic.

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                    It is materially different because a person with dementia can’t legally advocate for themselves so it is easier for an action against them to be considered a crime.

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                      Jesus Christ! Can we get some of that law in the US?!

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                      We do - romance scams are fraud, and they're illegal.

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                      • knight_alva@lemmy.worldK [email protected]

                        It’s a poor definition because gift exchanges are strictly voluntary and non-reciprocal engagements. I’m not saying what he did was ok or even legal in other contexts. My only point is that I wouldn’t consider this fraud because the victims were not compelled to give. This isn’t a Nigerian prince scam where the victims were promised greater returns at a later date. These victims gave with the expectation of monetary loss.

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                        By that logic, fake fundraisers and romance scams shouldn't be illegal either.

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                          Jesus Christ! Can we get some of that law in the US?!

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                          Best I can do is legalizing corruption and then spend billion dollars on public programs explaining how lobbying helps the people, not capitalism

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                            We do - romance scams are fraud, and they're illegal.

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                            Enforcement is the issue. Cops in the USA wouldn't care about this.

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                            • daggermoon@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                              Do you get someone a gift if you're only known them for a week? Serious question.

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                              Depends on how bad you're down.

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                                Do you get someone a gift if you're only known them for a week? Serious question.

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                                Maybe he was after small gifts like a cupcake?

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                                  Jesus Christ! Can we get some of that law in the US?!

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                                  I've studied laws like that for the better part of 25 years and I've formulated this new law ointment I'd like to call Lawinment2.0! IRS available at Walmart for $17.75! And the shipping is free because its a download. Just pay as you normally would thru Walmart pay and then head on over to laws.com and receive your free gift! And if you pay thru laws.com to receive a free 5% offer on an additional law you'll also receive this custom deluxe gorme designer bag gift pin retainer. Its our way of saying thank you! And thank you George Carling for this fine comedy bit.

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                                  • knight_alva@lemmy.worldK [email protected]

                                    It is materially different because a person with dementia can’t legally advocate for themselves so it is easier for an action against them to be considered a crime.

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                                    It's still using deception for material gain. Just because it's harder to scam someone without dementia doesn't make it not fraud.

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                                      So like...makeup?

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                                      "Why you wearing eye shadow, you fraud? Just don't sleep and get real dark spots under your eyes, poser!"

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                                      • knight_alva@lemmy.worldK [email protected]

                                        It’s a poor definition because gift exchanges are strictly voluntary and non-reciprocal engagements. I’m not saying what he did was ok or even legal in other contexts. My only point is that I wouldn’t consider this fraud because the victims were not compelled to give. This isn’t a Nigerian prince scam where the victims were promised greater returns at a later date. These victims gave with the expectation of monetary loss.

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                                        They're technically voluntary but also socially expected. I'm not sure about birthday gifts in particular but Japan is a country where if you go on holiday somewhere you're expected to bring a gift for each of your coworkers, and people will think worse of you for not doing that. I'd be kind of surprised if omitting birthday gifts for your romantic partner without prior agreement is a real option.

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                                        • hark@lemmy.worldH [email protected]

                                          We need to ban birthdays so this never happens again.

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                                          So... We will be just spawns now?

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