'Knowing Steam players are hoarders explains why you give Valve that 30%,' analyst tells devs: 'You get access to a bunch of drunken sailors who spend money irresponsibly'
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A bunch of drunken sailors who spend money irresponsibly?
So... pirates?
I would guess the line between the two groups is about one plank wide.
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When I say to the same degree I'm not saying there aren't people with thousands of games elsewhere. I'm saying there are more of them on Steam and they tend to collect higher amounts of games on average.
Board game enthusiasts don't always have thousands of board games, most console gaming enthusiasts don't have giant walls of games lining their house, etc.
That said, I don't have sources to cite here other than my personal interactions with other steam users on social media and my steam friends list number of games. I could be wrong as this isn't hard data but I'd bet money I'm correct though if there was a way to verify the comparison.
Could that just be due to the fact that things like humble bundle would give 10+ games a month for like 20$? Or the amount of sales that steam has allowing you to get another another 10 - 20 games for 50$, or the price of a board game?
If Nintendo, still epic, or Xbox had sales of this magnitude I'm certain you would see significantly more "hoarding" there as well
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Are non-Steam gamers not also hoarders? Because if they are, that whole argument falls apart.
I’m a console gamer, I’ve never cared about my library to the point I actually threw away games from previous gen’s once I got the new console. That was me as a kid mind you. Nowadays, I just don’t buy games at all thanks to gamepass. So yep it kinda tracks, at least anecdotally.
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Or they just like a really good deal which is a known marketing tactic since buying stuff with currency was a thing? "99 cents for this thing I may or may not need? Down from two dollars?! Sold!" Maybe the term hoarders, as in people with an actual mental issue, is not the right term. More like frugal. Let's face it. Steam sales are when they sell the most copies of any title.
Now if you are buying games at full price every time with no intention of playing, you're just a dumbass and need a lesson on the value of a dollar.
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A bunch of drunken sailors who spend money irresponsibly?
So... pirates?
I think if I was irresponsible with my money, I'd be paying for games and pirating food instead of the other way around.
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He doesn't consider game bundles like e.g. humble bundle. There you can get loads of steam games which you might activate but only play a few from.
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I think if I was irresponsible with my money, I'd be paying for games and pirating food instead of the other way around.
️Just pirate both and spend the money on gambling like a real pirate lol
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I think if I was irresponsible with my money, I'd be paying for games and pirating food instead of the other way around.
️pirating food
You wouldn't download a burger
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Hey....
Fuck you
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pirating food
You wouldn't download a burger
I would download a nice steak and a healthy salad instead!
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So basically "Valve discovered a gold mine by selling you so many games" and "it's your fault for spendijg money on games". Yeah wait wut? As if it's someone's fault that so many games are getting released. Also ending with "beware, not every customer is a die-hard fan". Wow.
Go crack the F2P business model next, Sherlock.
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Funny enough, the link to Rich Shanton, the one who wrote this, throws a 404 error.
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Are non-Steam gamers not also hoarders? Because if they are, that whole argument falls apart.
The argument isn't that only Steam gamers are hoarders. The argument is that game hoarders congregate on Steam. You can have hoarding gamers in the wild, and those wild hoarders may never touch Steam, but you're guaranteed to find hoarding gamers on Steam. If you're looking to sell games to hoarders you're going to sell more when you do it where hoarders regularly visit.
It's the same reason Epic is giving away free games. They're trying to attract hoarders by giving them a free hoard and regularly inviting them into their shop. They won't really attract hoarders who are entrenched on Steam but they will attract future hoarders who might not yet have a huge Steam library.
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He doesn't consider game bundles like e.g. humble bundle. There you can get loads of steam games which you might activate but only play a few from.
wrote last edited by [email protected]My steam library is full of humble bundles that I only bought for 2 games because it would be like $5, cheaper than buying regularly, and still getting like 7 other games with them.
And that's even with me giving away keys from games I know I won't ever play.
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Or they just like a really good deal which is a known marketing tactic since buying stuff with currency was a thing? "99 cents for this thing I may or may not need? Down from two dollars?! Sold!" Maybe the term hoarders, as in people with an actual mental issue, is not the right term. More like frugal. Let's face it. Steam sales are when they sell the most copies of any title.
Now if you are buying games at full price every time with no intention of playing, you're just a dumbass and need a lesson on the value of a dollar.
Digital hoarding is a mental disorder same as any other form of hoarding.
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The argument isn't that only Steam gamers are hoarders. The argument is that game hoarders congregate on Steam. You can have hoarding gamers in the wild, and those wild hoarders may never touch Steam, but you're guaranteed to find hoarding gamers on Steam. If you're looking to sell games to hoarders you're going to sell more when you do it where hoarders regularly visit.
It's the same reason Epic is giving away free games. They're trying to attract hoarders by giving them a free hoard and regularly inviting them into their shop. They won't really attract hoarders who are entrenched on Steam but they will attract future hoarders who might not yet have a huge Steam library.
My epic library is nearly 10% of my steam one, and I've only bought a couple games.
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sips rum
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Digital hoarding is a mental disorder same as any other form of hoarding.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Per the article you posted (interesting read BTW!)
With digital hoarding, however, the act of saving the file becomes an uncontrollable urge.
“It means that they’ve lost the choice — they feel they have to save it. If they do not, they may feel uncomfortable and, more often than not, anxious that they may need to have access to the information and it’s not going to be there,” he says.
I'm not sure "picking up some games you might want to play when they are on an extremely good sale" qualifies as Digital Hoarding, per the definition.
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Per the article you posted (interesting read BTW!)
With digital hoarding, however, the act of saving the file becomes an uncontrollable urge.
“It means that they’ve lost the choice — they feel they have to save it. If they do not, they may feel uncomfortable and, more often than not, anxious that they may need to have access to the information and it’s not going to be there,” he says.
I'm not sure "picking up some games you might want to play when they are on an extremely good sale" qualifies as Digital Hoarding, per the definition.
It is very common for people to joke about how big their backlog is. I’m not sure we can call buying things you’re never going to play as frugal. I’m on autism spectrum and do both regular and digital hoarding occasionally but I’m a bit more mindful about it ever since I admitted it. Many people seem to be in denial.
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It is very common for people to joke about how big their backlog is. I’m not sure we can call buying things you’re never going to play as frugal. I’m on autism spectrum and do both regular and digital hoarding occasionally but I’m a bit more mindful about it ever since I admitted it. Many people seem to be in denial.
I'm sure there are folks who fall under that umbrella. But I was more responding in the context of this specific comment thread.
