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AI cannot replace humans spiteful spirit

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  • S [email protected]

    Not it isn't.

    A command line literally is a UI.

    You seem to be confusing GUI and UI?

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    You seem to be confusing C stdlib with a CLI?

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      Lakh views? 🤔

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      • meme_historian@lemmy.dbzer0.comM [email protected]

        I see your pitiful vibe coding and raise you...
        SPITE CODING 👿

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        I prefer the term "spite-driven development".

        I wrote an SDL replacement but worse after SDL refused to work with audio streams for me even after a week of googling, it took me the same amount to get it work with WASAPI directly as looking up audio streams, instead of the many easymp3playback.dll type solution. Another one week was making ALSA working. At least it's in D, so I have an easier time with development.

        I also almost was involved with a YanSim clone development called "Love Letter: My True Feelings", but shit just started to hit the fan (character designer just left), so I decided to not get involved as a coder.

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        • G [email protected]

          Do React devs really hate React?

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          I don't, but it can be really annoying when I accidentally fall for a common trap that I supposedly know how to avoid after all these years! Gah.

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            React is a Javascript based web development programming language developed by Facebook to make pages run faster and better. I learned it as part of a MERN stack full web development course.

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            #44

            Javascript based web development programming language UI library

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            • J [email protected]

              Is this distinction really all that useful?

              I suppose you could write a react app that doesn’t use “the web”? But you still might just say they are a react developer.

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              I think the web part refers to web technologies.

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              • S [email protected]

                I have definitely gone into a rageful fugue state and woken up a week later after reworking an entire code base from being an inconsistent mess of slop...

                ...into actually having a common library of functions instead of just rewriting slightly different versions of them 8 times, having those functions only actually instantiated for necesarry classes...

                ...rewriting every variable name and function name to an actually consistent and intelligible naming scheme...

                ... and finally, moving a whole bunch of shit out of some kind of global 'think' type loop that doesn't actually need to be called or checked every goddamned micro second.

                Done that more than once actually.

                Never look inside 'baby's first video game mod' code, unless you have healthy blood pressure.

                But uh yeah, spite, hatred, and anger are indeed powerful motivators for making good code, lol.

                ... so many idiots just jam everything into a global, called every tick loop, and then claim that it just can't be optimized, because "the game engine just can't handle it"...

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                $ ./clears_throat.sh

                The engine doesn't suck. I do. I suck.

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                • L [email protected]

                  I think the web part refers to web technologies.

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                  Yeah I guess I’m old. Seems like everything is called “web dev” these days.

                  I was answering a question somewhere related to something like C/C++ and Operating System level stuff. Someone replied asking where I learned “web dev.” I would consider that general programming, or possibly systems programming, but certainly not “web dev.”

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                    I'm an elitist asshole and I hate that people say "react dev" when really it's "web dev that uses react"

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                    There are also react devs creating the windows 11 start menu.

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                      Yeah because documents are limiting and we want to do stuff that executables can do but with a better distribution model.

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                      Shoulda been something more like Java Web Start.

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                      • A [email protected]

                        React is a Javascript based web development programming language developed by Facebook to make pages run faster and better. I learned it as part of a MERN stack full web development course.

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                        Used for rendering UIs on a Document Object Model. JS was a mistake.

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                        • G [email protected]

                          to make pages run faster and better.

                          Huh, well that's a funny way of saying "break the model of web page as document and fuck up the entire web!"

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                          Oh stop it. Are you saying you don't enjoy pressing the "Back" button in your browser, but staying on the same page. Therefore breaking the page so you refresh and lose whatever the fuck you were doing? /s

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                            React is what powers your Windows Start Menu.

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                            Wtf is that real

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                            • M [email protected]

                              What's this dude talking about?! Everyone knows no one hates React like people who code in React 😂 No one is gonna get pissed off watching this.

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                              I used to be a React dev. The only thing I hated more than React was my boss.

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                              • camr_on@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

                                Wtf is that real

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                                Yes, as well as parts of the settings menu. What's not to love about constantly loading and unloading javascript just by clicking around in native apps? CPU spikes are good for your health.

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                                  This reminds me. I got a search engine to build.

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                                  • C [email protected]

                                    Umm this is just being retro. Like using a film camera.

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                                    Raw film is objectively higher quality than raw digital. Are you saying that C is objectively higher quality than Rust?

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                                    • D [email protected]

                                      Speaking of coding out of spite, is nobody going to mention that his C code features a struct with over 20 fields in it?

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                                      Oh man. You should see the source code for IOS (the Cisco one not Apple).

                                      Spent 5 years working on it out of college. I think it's the most cursed code base you can imagine.

                                      Not necessarily because of the massive struct defs everywhere. They are kinda needed when you're running an entire OS as basically a set of interacting Linux processes pretending to be an OS.

                                      At some point Cisco realized they could not compete without putting a Linux kernel as their base. So they basically just copy and pasted the old code written in the early 90s for the IOS and put it into a set Linux processes.

                                      To be clear. It's not just the front end. They didn't really change the code much from the old IOS. Its a cluster fuck of interprocess communication hacks that probably seemed like a good idea at the time.

                                      It is a massive pain in the ass to code because you're basically doing everything on the Linux kernel and then frustratingly have to write the CLIs for IOS just so Cisco can continue to sell their proprietary OS with some of the most unnecessary hardware locks. Massive learning curve for any new engineer.

                                      Literally, no one on the entire switching team knew how to send a message from a specific process to the IOS process. I had been assigned something that needed it. So I somehow figured it out and was "the guy" for that for the time I spent there.

                                      Fuck. I'm gonna start ranting more if I go any further. But yeah, sometimes you need a massive struct because some idiot decided that forcing a closed source CLI on the market is a good idea for profits.

                                      Definitely not a good idea for coding. But you learn quickly that no one actually cares about good code in this industry. There is no time for it. There is no reason for it. Just spit out garbage until it works and your manager won't care.

                                      If you want clean code. Go write an open source project or a personal project.

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                                      • schmoo@startrek.websiteS [email protected]

                                        Yes, as well as parts of the settings menu. What's not to love about constantly loading and unloading javascript just by clicking around in native apps? CPU spikes are good for your health.

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                                        Fucking Christ. Glad I left windows behind.

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                                        • M [email protected]

                                          What's this dude talking about?! Everyone knows no one hates React like people who code in React 😂 No one is gonna get pissed off watching this.

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                                          I remember years ago when React was the savior of web apps Swooping in engineers from the clutches of JQuery and AngularJS (not to be confused with Angular 2+). Components we’re gonna make things simpler than the mess of JS files and global state.

                                          And generally that’s true but we’ve traded that off for a mess of hooks and 700 line nested functions in nested functions and obtuse rules that only apply to react and not JS.

                                          Complex web apps are hard.

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