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Stop Killing Games has exceeded 1.4 Million Signatures!

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  • extremedullard@lemmy.sdf.orgE [email protected]

    Is it in the game vendors' interest to do that? No. And they have more money than the gamers.

    So... Cute petition, but sadly you can be absolutely certain it ain't going nowhere.

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    People said that about slave traders, child labour, asbestos manufacturing…

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      People said that about slave traders, child labour, asbestos manufacturing…

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      Ok unplugging servers kinda sucks but it’s nowhere near as bad as the things you mentioned lol. It’s like this survey that voted EA as the worst company.

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        People said that about slave traders, child labour, asbestos manufacturing…

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        All famously solved by an online petition

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        • extremedullard@lemmy.sdf.orgE [email protected]

          Is it in the game vendors' interest to do that? No. And they have more money than the gamers.

          So... Cute petition, but sadly you can be absolutely certain it ain't going nowhere.

          the16bitgamer@programming.devT This user is from outside of this forum
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          While it's easy to be pessimistic about this. This is one of the few options to make actual change. Leaving thing as they are is a worse situation since it means that companies like Ubisoft can and will destroy the games which we own.

          Will there be resistance? Yes Ubisoft is already stated their opposition to it.)

          But it's not up to companies like Ubisoft for how the EU makes it's laws, it's up to the EU itself. When there is potentially 1.4 million people in Europe telling you to "stop killing games" it's going to be hard to tell them no.

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            All famously solved by an online petition

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            To be clear, this is not an "online petition". This is the beginning of a defined legal process in the EU.

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              To be clear, this is not an "online petition". This is the beginning of a defined legal process in the EU.

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              Which EU law stemming from this process is your favourite?

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                Which EU law stemming from this process is your favourite?

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                I'm not an EU citizen so I'm not politically informed enough to answer that.

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                • extremedullard@lemmy.sdf.orgE [email protected]

                  Is it in the game vendors' interest to do that? No. And they have more money than the gamers.

                  So... Cute petition, but sadly you can be absolutely certain it ain't going nowhere.

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                  found piratesoftwares lemmy account...

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                  • extremedullard@lemmy.sdf.orgE [email protected]

                    Is it in the game vendors' interest to do that? No. And they have more money than the gamers.

                    So... Cute petition, but sadly you can be absolutely certain it ain't going nowhere.

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                    Apple didn't want to switch to USB-C, now they use it. Almost all manufacturers didn't want replaceable batteries, in a short while they'll have to. The EU, despite not being perfect, is a functioning entity and therefore can force vendors regardless of their desire.

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                      Which EU law stemming from this process is your favourite?

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                      Oh I don't know... how about banning glyphosate, an incredibly dangerous pesticide, which is now gone from EU produce but still plaguing many countries in the rest of the world? And how about some clean water to go with that salad? Because the Clean Water Directive received major updates as a direct result of collecting 1.80 million signatures.

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                        Oh I don't know... how about banning glyphosate, an incredibly dangerous pesticide, which is now gone from EU produce but still plaguing many countries in the rest of the world? And how about some clean water to go with that salad? Because the Clean Water Directive received major updates as a direct result of collecting 1.80 million signatures.

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                        Oh I don't know... how about banning glyphosate,

                        Glyphosate isn't banned in the EU. From the EU website: "Glyphosate is currently approved as an active substance in the EU until 15 December 2033".

                        There was a petition to ban it, but the response was "On the first aim, to 'ban glyphosate-based herbicides', the Commission concluded that there are neither scientific nor legal grounds to justify a ban of glyphosate, and will not make a legislative proposal to that effect."

                        the Clean Water Directive received major updates as a direct result of collecting 1.80 million signatures.

                        You might mean the Drinking Water Directive, and 1.6 million signatures.

                        I see some press releases on updates, but I can't find anything outside of government websites saying things have improved. I'd imagine if this was a big deal there'd be news stories on it.

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                        • extremedullard@lemmy.sdf.orgE [email protected]

                          Is it in the game vendors' interest to do that? No. And they have more money than the gamers.

                          So... Cute petition, but sadly you can be absolutely certain it ain't going nowhere.

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                          That's a cute set of downvotes you got there.

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                          • sineswiper@discuss.tchncs.deS [email protected]

                            That's a cute set of downvotes you got there.

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                            Some of them may be invalidated, keep dispensing them people!

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                              Which EU law stemming from this process is your favourite?

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                              GDPR is pretty neat

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                                Oh I don't know... how about banning glyphosate,

                                Glyphosate isn't banned in the EU. From the EU website: "Glyphosate is currently approved as an active substance in the EU until 15 December 2033".

                                There was a petition to ban it, but the response was "On the first aim, to 'ban glyphosate-based herbicides', the Commission concluded that there are neither scientific nor legal grounds to justify a ban of glyphosate, and will not make a legislative proposal to that effect."

                                the Clean Water Directive received major updates as a direct result of collecting 1.80 million signatures.

                                You might mean the Drinking Water Directive, and 1.6 million signatures.

                                I see some press releases on updates, but I can't find anything outside of government websites saying things have improved. I'd imagine if this was a big deal there'd be news stories on it.

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                                While the EU didn’t enact laws directly due to the petition it did create political interest, and laws, that have improved both issues

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                                • extremedullard@lemmy.sdf.orgE [email protected]

                                  Is it in the game vendors' interest to do that? No. And they have more money than the gamers.

                                  So... Cute petition, but sadly you can be absolutely certain it ain't going nowhere.

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                                  Behold, an intellectual cuck.

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                                  • thenamlessguy@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                                    GDPR is pretty neat

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                                    It is! It wasn't created because of an online petition!

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                                      Apple didn't want to switch to USB-C, now they use it. Almost all manufacturers didn't want replaceable batteries, in a short while they'll have to. The EU, despite not being perfect, is a functioning entity and therefore can force vendors regardless of their desire.

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                                      Apple was already using USB C everywhere else. They were using it rather early. You can debate about how fast they should kill lightning after its introduction (before USB-C was finalized), but the EU didn’t single handedly make Apple consider USB-C on iPhones.

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                                        found piratesoftwares lemmy account...

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                                          It is! It wasn't created because of an online petition!

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                                          While it wasn't a citizens initiative, certain countries did let the people vote on if they thought it was a good idea.

                                          If you're only interested in citizens initatives, here are some examples:

                                          • Right2Water
                                            The first citizens initiative that passed, which led to a lot of things regarding the availability of water
                                          • Stop vivisection
                                          • Save the bees
                                          • Stop finning

                                          along with all the other answered initiatives.

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