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Adblockers stop publishers serving ads to (or even seeing) 1bn web users - Press Gazette

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  • G [email protected]

    Seeing static banner ads on 2000s websites without popups or tracking: ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

    Blocking ads on Firefox after popups and other crap started: ๐Ÿ˜€

    Browsing the internet on Android before I realised the browser supports addons: ๐Ÿคฎ

    Blocking ads and tracking on Android via uBlock origin and Privacy Badger: ๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ‘

    My feeling of guilt when scummy megacorporations miss out on ad revenue:

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    My feeling of guilt when scummy megacorporations miss out on ad revenue:

    ๐Ÿ˜›

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    • A [email protected]

      There are also market effects on what type of content is produced / profitable to advertise on.

      And mostly unknown psychological effects of advertising on the human mind. Maybe advertising has altered your mind so much that you "don't even mind" it any more. It is a brainwashing technique after all haha. Maybe all those youtube ads made about 5% of the people's brain soft enough to vote for MAGA. Maybe the effect of advertising is as bad as lead in gasoline.

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      There is nothing like a free lunch.

      You either have to directly pay for something or indirectly pay for it by selling your time or data.

      Companies need to get their name out there and in the past you did that with a banner on your building, a space in the phone book and maybe your name on the side of the vans. Now we live in the digital world and we use digital advertisement. Heck a lot of companies sponsor certain event including charity events.

      If we would totally remove advertisement, your local mom-and-pop shops will get more traffic, but in a lot of countries they would have basically a monopoly unless another competitor exists in the same region.

      I don't really mind watching a bit of advertisement on something like a YouTube video or a banner ad on a site. Heck, buildings or vans with logos etc are fine as well in my opinion. My issue is more with the tracking and some forced advertisement (putting your logo on my clothing, vehicle etc).

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      • N [email protected]

        Advertising needs to become as socially acceptable as smoking.

        It arbitrary pollutes any environment itโ€™s conducted in, and causes secondary harms to non-participants by incentivising insecure hoarding of private information with the intent to better target individuals.

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        I'm sorry to tell you but smoking is completely socially accepted.

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        • 1984@lemmy.today1 [email protected]

          They call it "dark traffic" - ads that are not seen by tech-savvy users who have excellent ad blockers.

          Not surprised that its growing. The web is unusable without an ad blocker and its only getting worse, and will continue to get worse every month.

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          And the good old guilt tripping at the end, with the usual "quality content".

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            SmartTube is so much better. Even the UI is intuitive and makes sense. You can hide shorts, actually find content you want to watch.

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            Sadly I don't believe I can use SmartTube. I was really limited in options for my TV box due to regional reasons and Googling blocking way more surrounding casting than Apple with airplay

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            • 1984@lemmy.today1 [email protected]

              They call it "dark traffic" - ads that are not seen by tech-savvy users who have excellent ad blockers.

              Not surprised that its growing. The web is unusable without an ad blocker and its only getting worse, and will continue to get worse every month.

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              We should bring back paying to read a newspaper, magazine, (pc-magazine :P)

              Get the hell out with AI slop and constant dark marketing

              Let the idiots live on Instagram and don't depend on their 'content'

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                We should bring back paying to read a newspaper, magazine, (pc-magazine :P)

                Get the hell out with AI slop and constant dark marketing

                Let the idiots live on Instagram and don't depend on their 'content'

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                Would love to but a lot of them have shut down now since people didnt buy them.

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                  Sadly I don't believe I can use SmartTube. I was really limited in options for my TV box due to regional reasons and Googling blocking way more surrounding casting than Apple with airplay

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                  What device? FireTV/Firestick/etc all support it (surprisingly).

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                  • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

                    I actually agree with that but the only other solution is subject yourself to deeply concerning levels of surveillance, not to mention surveillance pricing.

                    I use AdNauseum and they have a toggle for privacy-conscious ads and I leave that on. That's my best compromise.

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                    All ad networks, even the less intrusive ones, can be abused to distribute malware. In this day and age not having an ad blocker is like rawdogging internet strangers.

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                    • G [email protected]

                      They got it the wrong way around. Visitors who use adblock are not "dark traffic", the bullshit scripts and tracking they use are dark. The adblock users are actually the only clean traffic. The adblockers aren't "brutal", the people without blockers are being brutalized.

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                      "dark" as in "not visible". Adblock users can't be tracked (or at least not as easily), hence they are not visible to the ad companies. "Dark", in this instance, is not a derogatory term.

                      "Brutal" is, though. So I totally agree with you there. Ads are the brutal thing nowadays.

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                      • S [email protected]

                        We should bring back paying to read a newspaper, magazine, (pc-magazine :P)

                        Get the hell out with AI slop and constant dark marketing

                        Let the idiots live on Instagram and don't depend on their 'content'

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                        We should bring back paying to read a newspaper, magazine, (pc-magazine :P)

                        You are probably not wrong, and we should be paying for a lot more things, but the genie is out of the bottle for many things here and it's difficult to roll that back.

                        For example, newspaper reading habits have changed a lot. Before the internet, you'd usually stick with one newspaper and that's it. Maybe two if you have too much money. You buy your newspaper and you read it front to back, probably even the topics you don't particularly care about.

                        Now it's often the other way round. Most people read news from quite a few sources (or often just follow links on social media and don't really even care for the publisher), but they don't read their news from virtual cover to virtual cover. Instead, they stick to the topics they care for, or maybe even read about the same thing in multiple publications, comparing what they have to say about it.

                        For this kind of newspaper reading, current forms of monetarisation don't really work. Most newspapers only offer subscriptions to the whole newspaper, often in the range of โ‚ฌ5-15 per month. So if I were to pay for the ~20 newspapers that I read news from at least semi-frequently, that's โ‚ฌ200-600 per month. No way I can or want to afford that.

                        Some allow you to pay per article, but that is usually pretty expensive too (โ‚ฌ1-3 per article) and also I need to register to every single newspaper. That's not great either.

                        What I'd really like to see would be a industry-wide subscription. For example, I pay โ‚ฌ10 per month and that allows me to read 100 articles per month across all newspapers. That would be really nice.

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                        • R [email protected]

                          I mean, basically yes? Do you think most people ever touched the addons button?

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                          You think most people open settings or hamburger menus? You're more optimistic than I am.

                          These days the average caveman is used by his phone, not the other way around.

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                            No point if you have a network in the 10.0.0.0/8 IP range. There is a bug where they will randomly stop serving DNS to IPs outside of their subnet

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                            Then change it?

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                              Fair warning, using third-party DNS is a massive security issue; It basically allows that DNS provider to see all of the sites youโ€™re visiting. Whenever possible, you should use a self-hosted DNS server like pi-hole.

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                              Depends. Using some no-name dns server in Uzbekistan is likely not going to be easily reachable for your queries by your local government, if at all.

                              Then again, most of you don't have queries over encrypted protocols anyway, so it's an open book regardless of who your third-party is.

                              Best case if you're a luddite, run a very highly recommended(by the fediverse) VPN, like windscribe or mullvad, and use their dns servers. Wireguard will encrypt the queries, and the vpn being supposedly trustworthy would put any cork in it otherwise.

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                              • 1984@lemmy.today1 [email protected]

                                They call it "dark traffic" - ads that are not seen by tech-savvy users who have excellent ad blockers.

                                Not surprised that its growing. The web is unusable without an ad blocker and its only getting worse, and will continue to get worse every month.

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                                News Media: "ADVERTISERS CAN'T DISTRIBUTE ADS BECAUSE OF YOUUUUUU"

                                g-good!

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                                • bebopalouie@lemmy.caB [email protected]

                                  Almost 70. Spent way too many years watching cable shit tv. I hate ads. I fucking hate ads with a nuclear passion. I have ad blockers, pirated shit and some services that do not show ads so far.
                                  If there are ads I find an alternative or read a book. Our teen son screams ad every time he sees one that sneaks through ad just to get me going.

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                                  "Son, are those ads in my house!?"

                                  dad, please, it's only a little marketing!

                                  "NO SON OF MINE! GET MY BELT!"

                                  dad, no!

                                  "What's our DNS address!?"

                                  dad, I don't kno-

                                  "Count the licks, boy! I'll teach you the hard way!"

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                                  • G [email protected]

                                    Then I guess I'm not looking at those pages. No skin of my nose.

                                    That works until every website starts doing it.

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                                    I use Mullvad's VPN and DNS on a router level. Every device on my network is blanketed by it. Some services don't work, but I am willing to sacrifice their profits for my integrity. Thus, to them I say ็„ถใ‚‰ใฐ fuckmothers.

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                                      The fbi suggests using an ad blocker. Guess what an ad blocker is as important as an antivirus.

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                                      I have an adblocker but not an antivirus

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                                      • 1984@lemmy.today1 [email protected]

                                        They call it "dark traffic" - ads that are not seen by tech-savvy users who have excellent ad blockers.

                                        Not surprised that its growing. The web is unusable without an ad blocker and its only getting worse, and will continue to get worse every month.

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                                        Good. Hopefully the advertisers will realize that it's not profitable to advertise online anymore, and then we'll be left the hell alone.

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                                        • 1984@lemmy.today1 [email protected]

                                          The larger problem that is not discussed so much is the amount of Ai generated garbage that is put on the web now.

                                          When these Ai web crawlers start to read that Ai garbage as source data, the models will start to become worse and worse, and as a result, our Ai clients will start to get worse and worse.

                                          I dont think there is a way for the crawlers to understand what is Ai generated fluff and crap. The reasons the Ai responses are so good now is because people actually posted these solutions on the web. What happens when Ai crap overflows the web so much that good answers are drowned out?

                                          Also, no ads in chat gpt yet. Thats going to change and it will become impossible to block those.

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                                          the web will die.

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