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Adblockers stop publishers serving ads to (or even seeing) 1bn web users - Press Gazette

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  • G [email protected]

    They got it the wrong way around. Visitors who use adblock are not "dark traffic", the bullshit scripts and tracking they use are dark. The adblock users are actually the only clean traffic. The adblockers aren't "brutal", the people without blockers are being brutalized.

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    "dark" as in "not visible". Adblock users can't be tracked (or at least not as easily), hence they are not visible to the ad companies. "Dark", in this instance, is not a derogatory term.

    "Brutal" is, though. So I totally agree with you there. Ads are the brutal thing nowadays.

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      We should bring back paying to read a newspaper, magazine, (pc-magazine :P)

      Get the hell out with AI slop and constant dark marketing

      Let the idiots live on Instagram and don't depend on their 'content'

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      We should bring back paying to read a newspaper, magazine, (pc-magazine :P)

      You are probably not wrong, and we should be paying for a lot more things, but the genie is out of the bottle for many things here and it's difficult to roll that back.

      For example, newspaper reading habits have changed a lot. Before the internet, you'd usually stick with one newspaper and that's it. Maybe two if you have too much money. You buy your newspaper and you read it front to back, probably even the topics you don't particularly care about.

      Now it's often the other way round. Most people read news from quite a few sources (or often just follow links on social media and don't really even care for the publisher), but they don't read their news from virtual cover to virtual cover. Instead, they stick to the topics they care for, or maybe even read about the same thing in multiple publications, comparing what they have to say about it.

      For this kind of newspaper reading, current forms of monetarisation don't really work. Most newspapers only offer subscriptions to the whole newspaper, often in the range of €5-15 per month. So if I were to pay for the ~20 newspapers that I read news from at least semi-frequently, that's €200-600 per month. No way I can or want to afford that.

      Some allow you to pay per article, but that is usually pretty expensive too (€1-3 per article) and also I need to register to every single newspaper. That's not great either.

      What I'd really like to see would be a industry-wide subscription. For example, I pay €10 per month and that allows me to read 100 articles per month across all newspapers. That would be really nice.

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      • R [email protected]

        I mean, basically yes? Do you think most people ever touched the addons button?

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        #142

        You think most people open settings or hamburger menus? You're more optimistic than I am.

        These days the average caveman is used by his phone, not the other way around.

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          No point if you have a network in the 10.0.0.0/8 IP range. There is a bug where they will randomly stop serving DNS to IPs outside of their subnet

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          Then change it?

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            Fair warning, using third-party DNS is a massive security issue; It basically allows that DNS provider to see all of the sites you’re visiting. Whenever possible, you should use a self-hosted DNS server like pi-hole.

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            Depends. Using some no-name dns server in Uzbekistan is likely not going to be easily reachable for your queries by your local government, if at all.

            Then again, most of you don't have queries over encrypted protocols anyway, so it's an open book regardless of who your third-party is.

            Best case if you're a luddite, run a very highly recommended(by the fediverse) VPN, like windscribe or mullvad, and use their dns servers. Wireguard will encrypt the queries, and the vpn being supposedly trustworthy would put any cork in it otherwise.

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            • 1984@lemmy.today1 [email protected]

              They call it "dark traffic" - ads that are not seen by tech-savvy users who have excellent ad blockers.

              Not surprised that its growing. The web is unusable without an ad blocker and its only getting worse, and will continue to get worse every month.

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              News Media: "ADVERTISERS CAN'T DISTRIBUTE ADS BECAUSE OF YOUUUUUU"

              g-good!

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              • bebopalouie@lemmy.caB [email protected]

                Almost 70. Spent way too many years watching cable shit tv. I hate ads. I fucking hate ads with a nuclear passion. I have ad blockers, pirated shit and some services that do not show ads so far.
                If there are ads I find an alternative or read a book. Our teen son screams ad every time he sees one that sneaks through ad just to get me going.

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                "Son, are those ads in my house!?"

                dad, please, it's only a little marketing!

                "NO SON OF MINE! GET MY BELT!"

                dad, no!

                "What's our DNS address!?"

                dad, I don't kno-

                "Count the licks, boy! I'll teach you the hard way!"

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                • G [email protected]

                  Then I guess I'm not looking at those pages. No skin of my nose.

                  That works until every website starts doing it.

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                  I use Mullvad's VPN and DNS on a router level. Every device on my network is blanketed by it. Some services don't work, but I am willing to sacrifice their profits for my integrity. Thus, to them I say 然らば fuckmothers.

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                    The fbi suggests using an ad blocker. Guess what an ad blocker is as important as an antivirus.

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                    I have an adblocker but not an antivirus

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                    • 1984@lemmy.today1 [email protected]

                      They call it "dark traffic" - ads that are not seen by tech-savvy users who have excellent ad blockers.

                      Not surprised that its growing. The web is unusable without an ad blocker and its only getting worse, and will continue to get worse every month.

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                      Good. Hopefully the advertisers will realize that it's not profitable to advertise online anymore, and then we'll be left the hell alone.

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                      • 1984@lemmy.today1 [email protected]

                        The larger problem that is not discussed so much is the amount of Ai generated garbage that is put on the web now.

                        When these Ai web crawlers start to read that Ai garbage as source data, the models will start to become worse and worse, and as a result, our Ai clients will start to get worse and worse.

                        I dont think there is a way for the crawlers to understand what is Ai generated fluff and crap. The reasons the Ai responses are so good now is because people actually posted these solutions on the web. What happens when Ai crap overflows the web so much that good answers are drowned out?

                        Also, no ads in chat gpt yet. Thats going to change and it will become impossible to block those.

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                        the web will die.

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                        • Y [email protected]

                          Cool quote, where did you get it from?

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                          From Banksy's 2004 book Cut It Out. Banksy, in turn, 'got' it (in its original form) from Sean Tejaratchi's 1999 essay in his Crap Hound zine. 😅

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                          • 1984@lemmy.today1 [email protected]

                            They call it "dark traffic" - ads that are not seen by tech-savvy users who have excellent ad blockers.

                            Not surprised that its growing. The web is unusable without an ad blocker and its only getting worse, and will continue to get worse every month.

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                            I actually like how people are again on the wave of understanding that anarchism is right even if you've voluntarily consented to hierarchy. And other similar things.

                            Sometimes you need to break rules. Entropy and life are more important.

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                            • S [email protected]

                              Speaking of cooking and not wanting to see 20 videos playing over the recipe:

                              https://based.cooking/

                              No ad blockers needed

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                              Looks like it hasn't been updated in a few years, but its open source so you could just fork the repo and add more. There are also quite a few forks already.

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                              • 1984@lemmy.today1 [email protected]

                                They call it "dark traffic" - ads that are not seen by tech-savvy users who have excellent ad blockers.

                                Not surprised that its growing. The web is unusable without an ad blocker and its only getting worse, and will continue to get worse every month.

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                                I used my mother's laptop once 2 years ago, and i was like, how the fuck do you people browsing without an adblock?

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                                • Y [email protected]

                                  Cool quote, where did you get it from?

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                                  From banksy's limited run "Cut it out" book apparently. Yours for only £310

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                                  • G [email protected]

                                    Seeing static banner ads on 2000s websites without popups or tracking: 🤷‍♂️

                                    Blocking ads on Firefox after popups and other crap started: 😀

                                    Browsing the internet on Android before I realised the browser supports addons: 🤮

                                    Blocking ads and tracking on Android via uBlock origin and Privacy Badger: 😀👍

                                    My feeling of guilt when scummy megacorporations miss out on ad revenue:

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                                    Even better: system-wide DNS adblocking on Android. Get rid of in-app ads too.

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                                    • 1984@lemmy.today1 [email protected]

                                      They call it "dark traffic" - ads that are not seen by tech-savvy users who have excellent ad blockers.

                                      Not surprised that its growing. The web is unusable without an ad blocker and its only getting worse, and will continue to get worse every month.

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                                      Ads are out of control, they fill my day.

                                      My home, my rules. Ads are not allowed on the devices i BOUGHT.

                                      99% of the targeted ads i get tend to be targeted at someone who has a family and makes 3 times my wage, so you're wasting business resources for your own gain and wasting my time by serving them to me.

                                      So fuck off outta my house.

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                                      • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

                                        They ad a random to showing you ads

                                        hhwat

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                                        sorry, fixed.

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                                        • 1984@lemmy.today1 [email protected]

                                          They call it "dark traffic" - ads that are not seen by tech-savvy users who have excellent ad blockers.

                                          Not surprised that its growing. The web is unusable without an ad blocker and its only getting worse, and will continue to get worse every month.

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                                          I used to maintain a website for a bicycling club in my county that was great for getting people into biking, getting people out the house, making friends, and staying fit.

                                          We had a banner ad along the top of the site for a local bicycle/bicycle repair shop that aided the club a lot and was very reasonable.

                                          He got something out of it (publicity and a seal of approval towards the value/quality of his work), and we got something out of it (money to run the site, and a bit left over for things like puncture repair kits and the occasional celebratory drink after an arduous ride).

                                          Nobody bats an eyelid to those ads. They are reasonable.

                                          What we have now isn't that. What we have now is an insecure, malware-infested privacy nightmare that ruins webpages and stresses everybody out.

                                          Use Firefox + uBlock origin for your own sanity. Don't let big tech make you feel guilty for not going along with their game.

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