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What exactly is it you suggest they do about Bernie's primary loss? Stop holding democratic primaries and just pick their own candidate who scores well in general polls?
My dude.
Kamala wasn't chosen through a primary.
Did you forget that?The Dems are already acting as rediculous as you think they shouldn't be.
And they have been for a long time. At least since Bernie.
Everyone in the US memory holed the DNC trial where they went to court and defended their right to pick whoever the fuck they wanted for a candidate over holding primaries.
In June 2016, a class action lawsuit was filed against the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and former DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz for violating the DNC Charter by rigging the Democratic presidential primaries for Hillary Clinton against Bernie Sanders.
DNC attorneys argued that the DNC would be well within their rights to select their own candidate.
“In evaluating Plaintiffs’ claims at this stage, the Court assumes their allegations are true—that the DNC and Wasserman Schultz held a palpable bias in favor Clinton and sought to propel her ahead of her Democratic opponent,”
So the DNC has learned nothing and already is as stupid as you think they shouldn't be.
Here's what the DNC should do:
Support who their voters think is popular, not their corporate financers.All this bullshit could have been avoided if they did that with Bernie the first time. They learned nothing then did it again with Biden/ Kamala a second time. Now they're doing it again with Mamdani for a third.
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My dude.
Kamala wasn't chosen through a primary.
Did you forget that?The Dems are already acting as rediculous as you think they shouldn't be.
And they have been for a long time. At least since Bernie.
Everyone in the US memory holed the DNC trial where they went to court and defended their right to pick whoever the fuck they wanted for a candidate over holding primaries.
In June 2016, a class action lawsuit was filed against the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and former DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz for violating the DNC Charter by rigging the Democratic presidential primaries for Hillary Clinton against Bernie Sanders.
DNC attorneys argued that the DNC would be well within their rights to select their own candidate.
“In evaluating Plaintiffs’ claims at this stage, the Court assumes their allegations are true—that the DNC and Wasserman Schultz held a palpable bias in favor Clinton and sought to propel her ahead of her Democratic opponent,”
So the DNC has learned nothing and already is as stupid as you think they shouldn't be.
Here's what the DNC should do:
Support who their voters think is popular, not their corporate financers.All this bullshit could have been avoided if they did that with Bernie the first time. They learned nothing then did it again with Biden/ Kamala a second time. Now they're doing it again with Mamdani for a third.
wrote last edited by [email protected]No, she wasn't, Joseph Biden was. He won some states completely unopposed, because you'd be insane to challenge an incumbent. Would you prefer Joe Biden and his Ass Cancer had ridden it out until the end instead of handing it off to his VP?
And yeah, Shultz liked his own party better than the third party participating on his ticket, and that might have had some negligible impact on the 3 Million more votes that Clinton received than Bernie.
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Right ...
So what about the elected Democrats who said Romenys plan had to become more conservative for them to vote for it?
Everyone on the correct side has a D by their name, you seem to get that...
You just don't understand that everyone with a D by their isn't on the correct side
Every square is a rectangle, but not every rectangle is a square
I hope that got thru to you, but I'll never know
did the democrats campaign promise include banning all muslims?
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No, she wasn't, Joseph Biden was. He won some states completely unopposed, because you'd be insane to challenge an incumbent. Would you prefer Joe Biden and his Ass Cancer had ridden it out until the end instead of handing it off to his VP?
And yeah, Shultz liked his own party better than the third party participating on his ticket, and that might have had some negligible impact on the 3 Million more votes that Clinton received than Bernie.
Would you prefer Joe Biden and his Ass Cancer had ridden it out until the end instead of handing it off to his VP?
I would have preffered the DNC dropped Joe with enough time to run a primary that DNC voters could have picked a candidate from. Especially given that he had cancer and likely knew about it during the election.
Instead, he dropped out way too late.
Because the DNC thought someone with ass cancer would look strong in a debate against a drugged up Trump.
Then they panicked when ass cancer grandpa failed the easiest debate in the history of presidential debates and then wasn't polling as the "strong incumbent" you were made to believe he was.
The DNC waited too long to realise Biden wouldn't win against billions of disinformation spending, and all they had to do was hold another primary to elect a new candidate to win.
Instead they waited too long - switched to Kamala too late - and then completely ran out of time.
Just like they took too long to persecute Trump.
Too long to expand the court.
Too long to codify Roe vs Wade.
Too long for Democracy to be protected in a meaningful way.And certainly too long to realize the young male supporters of Bernie have been going to Trump for decades now because the DNC labeled their very reasonable concerns as just dumb "Bernie Bros" BS instead of "the only voting base that can win American elections."
I wasn't exaggerating in my original post, Bernie would have won against Trump by +10 on average according to every general poll conducted before the DNC primary, even by Fox News.
Here are all those polls collected, I'll bet it's the first time you've ever seen them:
https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2016/trump-vs-sanders
Instead the DNC thought Hillary would still be good enough. And they still haven't learned why that was a mistake when they thought Biden would be too.
Bernie would have unquestionably won against Trump. Period full stop. You should be furious the DNC made you think Hillary was better when she statistically wasn't, just like you should be mad at the DNC for making someone with cancer debate a criminal.
You aren't holding the DNC accountable for shitting the bed ever, so they keep doing it, now to the cost of our Democracy. They literally prefered a Trump president over actual progressive policies, so that's what we have, and always will with the current DNC.
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Well, one of us wanted biden to stop selling weapons for the genocide you've done nothing but equivocate in favor of.
I don't know where you're getting the idea that I hate obama.
the US has been selling weapons to israel since its inception. you only care now because you hate democrats
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I am stilo cringing at white men for kamala or whatever they called themselves.
It gave the magats so much fuel too. And frankly I felt it was pretty dehumanizing like I am just going to vote for her just because other people who look like me are. They did less then the bare minimum when all they had to do was offer real policies that help everyone. I think its the sociality version of someone who got a degree in business and thinks they can do anything.
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I only saw your comment because I signed in after the page loaded.
So I'll go ahead and answer your question:
That the people currently smearing Mamdaninarent "the party" they're the ones whose wing just got the boot from the DNC. That's why they created project 29, they're desperate for Dems to focus on something they control, and they don't control the DNC anymore.
The way the DNC (the party) is structured, is the Chair has 100% control and zero accountability.
In February Ken Martin was seated chair.
Here's what "the party" is saying about Mamdani:
Amna Nawaz:
What do you take away from Zohran Mamdani's New York City mayoral Democratic primary win? Are there lessons there for the party or the races?
Ken Martin:
Well, first, it was a brilliant campaign. And there's a lot of lessons.
One is, he campaigned for something. And this is a critical piece. We can't just be in a perpetual state of resisting Donald Trump. Of course, we have to resist Donald Trump. There's no doubt about it for all the reasons we just talked about. But we also have to give people a sense of what we're for, what the Democratic Party is fighting for, and what we would do if they put us back in power.
And that's really critical. And I think that's one of the lessons from Mamdani's campaign, is that he focused on affordability. He focused on a message that was resonant with voters, and he campaigned for something, not against other people or against other things. He campaigned on a vision of how he was going to make New York City a better place to live.
I think that's one of the lessons. The other lessons, of course, is the tactics he used to get his message out, both a very aggressive in-person campaigning, meeting voters where they're at, and then also in those digital spaces, using very creative messaging to cut through the noise and to get to voters in an inexpensive but authentic way.
There's a lot to learn from that campaign, and I'm excited to learn more.
For now at least, the party is back on the side of the people.
And that's not even getting into the other stuff he's doing. You won't hear it on MSM, because MSM is owned by billionaires. They'd rather have a third trump term than a progressive.
Don't fall for their propaganda that today's DNC has anything to do with the DNC from 2024 and earlier.
wrote last edited by [email protected]The DNC under Martin kicked out David Hogg and pulled out all the stops for sex pest cuomo. He's not the savior you're touting him as.
For now at least, the party is back on the side of the people.
They got a funny way of showin' it.
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the US has been selling weapons to israel since its inception. you only care now because you hate democrats
I want them to stop. You want me to shut up about it.
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At this point, the Dem party consider themselves retired.; enjoying their investor's cash, and playing fiddle while DC burns.
Every Democrat that accepts blood money, fuck you.
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Would you prefer Joe Biden and his Ass Cancer had ridden it out until the end instead of handing it off to his VP?
I would have preffered the DNC dropped Joe with enough time to run a primary that DNC voters could have picked a candidate from. Especially given that he had cancer and likely knew about it during the election.
Instead, he dropped out way too late.
Because the DNC thought someone with ass cancer would look strong in a debate against a drugged up Trump.
Then they panicked when ass cancer grandpa failed the easiest debate in the history of presidential debates and then wasn't polling as the "strong incumbent" you were made to believe he was.
The DNC waited too long to realise Biden wouldn't win against billions of disinformation spending, and all they had to do was hold another primary to elect a new candidate to win.
Instead they waited too long - switched to Kamala too late - and then completely ran out of time.
Just like they took too long to persecute Trump.
Too long to expand the court.
Too long to codify Roe vs Wade.
Too long for Democracy to be protected in a meaningful way.And certainly too long to realize the young male supporters of Bernie have been going to Trump for decades now because the DNC labeled their very reasonable concerns as just dumb "Bernie Bros" BS instead of "the only voting base that can win American elections."
I wasn't exaggerating in my original post, Bernie would have won against Trump by +10 on average according to every general poll conducted before the DNC primary, even by Fox News.
Here are all those polls collected, I'll bet it's the first time you've ever seen them:
https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2016/trump-vs-sanders
Instead the DNC thought Hillary would still be good enough. And they still haven't learned why that was a mistake when they thought Biden would be too.
Bernie would have unquestionably won against Trump. Period full stop. You should be furious the DNC made you think Hillary was better when she statistically wasn't, just like you should be mad at the DNC for making someone with cancer debate a criminal.
You aren't holding the DNC accountable for shitting the bed ever, so they keep doing it, now to the cost of our Democracy. They literally prefered a Trump president over actual progressive policies, so that's what we have, and always will with the current DNC.
The difference between me and you is that you're blaming democrats for everything Republicans do. I supported Kamala, I would have supported Biden, and more people like me would have completely averted this disaster.
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Dems: Best we can do is racism and abandoning trans people.
Starmer?
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I want them to stop. You want me to shut up about it.
no i want you to keep talking about it, I just think your intentions aren't real. You never gave a shit until conservative think tanks told you to. This has been happening for literally so long and you never cared until 'now.'
take your fake concern and shove it waaay waaaaaay up your rectum
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One that you brought up because you don't want to talk about the ACA anymore for some reason. Keep changing the subject in defense of the party that sells your favorite person weapons for your favorite activity.
One that you brought up
who was that one that I brought up, why can't you mention his name? Do you even know what you are talking about?
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Oh, I see what youre failing to understand, the private schools were built for the purpose of enabling segregation where they couldnt just draw school district lines accordingly line in california. I assumed that was obvious from the context.
you have failed to copy and paste the first sentence that shows up when you google private schools and segregation
i assumed this would be super easy. here ya go "Private schools in the US exhibit higher levels of racial segregation compared to public schools, with some even being established as "segregation academies" to maintain racial separation. These schools, particularly in the South, were often founded in response to desegregation efforts in public schools."
so why are we de-funding public schools, alky?
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you have failed to copy and paste the first sentence that shows up when you google private schools and segregation
i assumed this would be super easy. here ya go "Private schools in the US exhibit higher levels of racial segregation compared to public schools, with some even being established as "segregation academies" to maintain racial separation. These schools, particularly in the South, were often founded in response to desegregation efforts in public schools."
so why are we de-funding public schools, alky?
Read my post and try again. We can continue when you demonstrate you're caught up.
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One that you brought up
who was that one that I brought up, why can't you mention his name? Do you even know what you are talking about?
At this point, I don't know what you're talking about. You just seem determined to change the subject.
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At this point, I don't know what you're talking about. You just seem determined to change the subject.
the original topic was mitch mconnell filibustering his own bill when obama approved it. because they are not a real political party, just obstructionists who funnel money to rich people. (and support racism such as things like 'private schools' IE segregation.)
that was the point, learn your history my guy before you start blathering.
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the original topic was mitch mconnell filibustering his own bill when obama approved it. because they are not a real political party, just obstructionists who funnel money to rich people. (and support racism such as things like 'private schools' IE segregation.)
that was the point, learn your history my guy before you start blathering.
wrote last edited by [email protected]the original topic was mitch mconnell filibustering his own bill when obama approved it.
This is a lie. It was not the "original topic" and anyone who can scroll up can confirm this. You're the one who keeps trying to talk about mcconnell (I have to actually write his name because otherwise you will immediately pretend I'm talking about someone else) in a thread that isn't about him.
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no i want you to keep talking about it, I just think your intentions aren't real. You never gave a shit until conservative think tanks told you to. This has been happening for literally so long and you never cared until 'now.'
take your fake concern and shove it waaay waaaaaay up your rectum
no i want you to keep talking about it
Your efforts to stop me indicate otherwise.
You never gave a shit until conservative think tanks told you to.
conservative think tanks are famously pro-Palestine, huh?
This has been happening for literally so long and you never cared until ‘now.’
Are you being a hipster about genocide opposition?
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the original topic was mitch mconnell filibustering his own bill when obama approved it.
This is a lie. It was not the "original topic" and anyone who can scroll up can confirm this. You're the one who keeps trying to talk about mcconnell (I have to actually write his name because otherwise you will immediately pretend I'm talking about someone else) in a thread that isn't about him.
No its a original topic that you refuse to acknowledge. Which is you saying dems do nothing and me saying they (conservatives) only obstruct and enrich millionaires and racists, even against their own bills.
Why did Mitch filibuster his own bill, crab? or do you want me to walk you through it like a child again?
