Stop Killing Games has exceeded 1.4 Million Signatures!
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It is! It wasn't created because of an online petition!
While it wasn't a citizens initiative, certain countries did let the people vote on if they thought it was a good idea.
If you're only interested in citizens initatives, here are some examples:
- Right2Water
The first citizens initiative that passed, which led to a lot of things regarding the availability of water - Stop vivisection
- Save the bees
- Stop finning
along with all the other answered initiatives.
- Right2Water
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While it wasn't a citizens initiative, certain countries did let the people vote on if they thought it was a good idea.
If you're only interested in citizens initatives, here are some examples:
- Right2Water
The first citizens initiative that passed, which led to a lot of things regarding the availability of water - Stop vivisection
- Save the bees
- Stop finning
along with all the other answered initiatives.
Most of those resulted in "the laws in place are already good enough" responses. From your links
The EU response to stop vivisection:
The Commission considers that the Directive on the protection of animals used for scientific purposes (Directive 2010/63/EU), which the Initiative seeks to repeal, is the right legislation to achieve the underlying objectives of the Initiative. It sets full replacement of animals as its ultimate goal as soon as it is scientifically possibly, and provides a legally binding stepwise approach as non-animal alternatives become available. Therefore, no repeal of that legislation was proposed
The EU response to Save the Bees:
In its reply, the Commission underlined that rather than proposing new legislative acts, the priority is to ensure that the proposals currently being negotiated by the co-legislators are timely adopted and then implemented, together with an effective implementation of the CAP.
The EU response to Stop Finning:
the Commission commits to better enforce the EU’s already strong traceability measures by strengthening the enforcement of EU law that applies to the entire value chain - control of fishing at sea, full traceability of shark products from landing to consumer, consumer information, and prevention and redress of illegal trade - and ensuring the collection and reporting of complete and reliable information by fishermen and Member States’ authorities on all these aspects.
- Right2Water
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Which EU law stemming from this process is your favourite?
The entire premise of your comment is absurd, but let's assume for a moment we really do live in a world where a legal process can't be used unless it's successfully been used for widespread change before; what other action do you suggest people should take?
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The entire premise of your comment is absurd, but let's assume for a moment we really do live in a world where a legal process can't be used unless it's successfully been used for widespread change before; what other action do you suggest people should take?
wrote last edited by [email protected]A boycott of the worst companies. I've seen lots of people commenting they're never buying an Ubisoft game again under pretty much every article in relation to them. Perhaps boycotts haven't worked in the past but this seems to have enough support and momentum that it could have a real direct impact. Recently, boycotts have been pretty impactful as the world has stopped buying US products and within the US, conservative groups have influenced many companies with boycott and social media campaigns against companies. It's also something that all supporters globally can participate in rather than everyone just hoping a European law might affect products purchased elsewhere.
The petition was a great way to gauge support, but I feel like people are going all in on its success and when the EU parliament likely issues its "we take consumer protection seriously which is why we already have the best laws in the world and don't need to change anything" statement, people are just going to act defeated. There's going to be a doomer post about how the EU parliament is corrupt and piratesoftware is the devil that gets 1000 upvotes and then that'll be it instead of using the support and momentum in a more direct and impactful way.
There are lots of ways to make a change. It shouldn't be all in on a single petition and that's it. That's not how social and political changes happen.
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Is it in the game vendors' interest to do that? No. And they have more money than the gamers.
So... Cute petition, but sadly you can be absolutely certain it ain't going nowhere.
Eat my entire ass.
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Eat my entire ass.
Mine too, you stupid son of a bitch!
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A boycott of the worst companies. I've seen lots of people commenting they're never buying an Ubisoft game again under pretty much every article in relation to them. Perhaps boycotts haven't worked in the past but this seems to have enough support and momentum that it could have a real direct impact. Recently, boycotts have been pretty impactful as the world has stopped buying US products and within the US, conservative groups have influenced many companies with boycott and social media campaigns against companies. It's also something that all supporters globally can participate in rather than everyone just hoping a European law might affect products purchased elsewhere.
The petition was a great way to gauge support, but I feel like people are going all in on its success and when the EU parliament likely issues its "we take consumer protection seriously which is why we already have the best laws in the world and don't need to change anything" statement, people are just going to act defeated. There's going to be a doomer post about how the EU parliament is corrupt and piratesoftware is the devil that gets 1000 upvotes and then that'll be it instead of using the support and momentum in a more direct and impactful way.
There are lots of ways to make a change. It shouldn't be all in on a single petition and that's it. That's not how social and political changes happen.
So your suggestion is instead of any attempt at regulation people should just boycott a company years after they've already given that company their money, despite the fact that you admit n even more ideal circumstances boycotts still do not work?
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So your suggestion is instead of any attempt at regulation people should just boycott a company years after they've already given that company their money, despite the fact that you admit n even more ideal circumstances boycotts still do not work?
It's not mutually exclusive. I'd suggest people do as many things as they can.
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It's not mutually exclusive. I'd suggest people do as many things as they can.
But not this apparently.
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Is it in the game vendors' interest to do that? No. And they have more money than the gamers.
So... Cute petition, but sadly you can be absolutely certain it ain't going nowhere.
Cute petition, but sadly you can be absolutely certain it ain't going nowhere
"Not going anywhere" isn't the same as "completely meaningless"
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But not this apparently.
I've never said don't sign it. I'm saying don't be surprised when the EU declines to change laws. It's probably going to take more than a petition to actually see change.
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It's not mutually exclusive. I'd suggest people do as many things as they can.
You mean like all the things in the link OP posted which you scrolled past just to be an ass in the comments?
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You mean like all the things in the link OP posted which you scrolled past just to be an ass in the comments?
Maybe I come off wrong in text? I wasn't trying to be an ass. I don't think any of my comments were rude. There's a comment in this thread calling someone a cuck with upvotes. I'd say that's being an ass. I was just trying to be realistic.
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Is it in the game vendors' interest to do that? No. And they have more money than the gamers.
So... Cute petition, but sadly you can be absolutely certain it ain't going nowhere.
this is not simply a petition, it's a tool for bringing issues in front of the eu parliament, which has to address it. it's a kinda new thing, and untested, but it looks pretty functional for now. also, Nicolae Ștefănuță, vice president of the eu parliament, has openly supported this citizens initiative.
not all countries are as dysfunctional as the US, and i'm sorry for you that your government sucks ass. But if this works, it will be positive for every gamer worldwide, so maybe you get to enjoy more consumer protection than before.
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this is not simply a petition, it's a tool for bringing issues in front of the eu parliament, which has to address it. it's a kinda new thing, and untested, but it looks pretty functional for now. also, Nicolae Ștefănuță, vice president of the eu parliament, has openly supported this citizens initiative.
not all countries are as dysfunctional as the US, and i'm sorry for you that your government sucks ass. But if this works, it will be positive for every gamer worldwide, so maybe you get to enjoy more consumer protection than before.
We just hit 1.6M votes to "debate" a horrible law that's in the passing here in France (re-allowing cancerous anti pest substances and more), we should have aimed at the EU level instead!
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Is it in the game vendors' interest to do that? No. And they have more money than the gamers.
So... Cute petition, but sadly you can be absolutely certain it ain't going nowhere.
Tf? This is not just a petition on change.org.
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There is still 10 days left. Even though the stretch goals were met, you can still sign.
If you haven't already and you live in the EU (they will check), you can sign here: https://www.stopkillinggames.com/
Fun fact, the admin of the EU SKG petition is Slovak.
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Apple was already using USB C everywhere else. They were using it rather early. You can debate about how fast they should kill lightning after its introduction (before USB-C was finalized), but the EU didn’t single handedly make Apple consider USB-C on iPhones.
It’s easy to forget that Gamers are like this.
