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  • infinitevalence@discuss.onlineI [email protected]

    Seriously this. I don't understand why suffering through manufacturers, customized skins and os's makes any sense when lineage is such a solid option.

    Lineage on my phone Linux on my computers degoogling services running on a micro cluster. It's never been easier to get away from big tech.

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    My previous phone wasn't compatible with lineage nor any of the other popular android derivatives.

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      My previous phone wasn't compatible with lineage nor any of the other popular android derivatives.

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      That is part of why I only buy pixel phones used these days. I can get a last years flagship for 1/2 price, and I know it will run Lineage or Graphene. Given I generally hold onto a phone for about 4 years it ends up being a great value.

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        Yea, that's a Windows Home thing.

        Upgrade to pro, where that stuff doesn't exist.

        Not to justify it, but the thinking by MS is "this OS is free, so you get ads", like commercial TV or the rest of the nonsense on the internet.

        Also, I've run Windows with updates disabled since Windows XP, and have rarely run into problems. I say this as someone who's been in IT since the early 90's. I've seen 10x more problems caused by updates at work than anything else.

        At home I enable updates every 6 months, then go manually grab the updates I need, or else it'll update things that will break my system.

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        Even better if you can get your hands on an Enterprise key. Even more configurable and is doesn’t have some of the annoying items.

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          We're getting close to the point where "running a stock ROM" is on the same level of inadvisable as "using a web browser without ad blocking". The latter of which was, btw, also not that big if a deal like ten or fifteen years ago.

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          It was sort of a big deal. The forbes malware injection attack by ads was ten years ago. It still ranks as one of the most hilarious 'poetic irony' bits in computer security. I'm sure ads were doing other insidious shit in 2010 that just went unnoticed because it didn't hit security researchers.

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          • S [email protected]

            I routinely get a Samsung notification telling me to agree to some new agreement thing. I swipe it away. It just reappears in 48 hours or so. I swipe it away. We've danced this dance for years.

            I don't know what it's for, I don't care, and things are just fine as is. There's nothing it it for me so, no.

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            I use an app specifically designed to automatically dismiss notifications and I use it to dismiss this Samsung one you mentioned and the voice mail notification, which for some ridiculous reason can't be disabled.

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              Good luck keeping root access with your GrapheneOS auto-update.

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              Your comment doesnt make any sense, i wouldnt want root access from GrapheneOS, that would break pretty much all of the security benefits.

              The point is to not need to use expliots and break security just to configure your device how you want in the first place.

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                I feel Windows 10 and 11, which I am forced to use on various work computers, represent a new era of impossible to predict UI behavior. Like, hats off if that was intended, they succeeded. I can't make heads or tails of anything anymore, and the things I want are several options deep now.

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                I've been an IT professional for nearly 30 years and it seems like every new version of Windows they do everything they can to make me feel like an idiot who has never used a computer before. Simple things like turning off the computer isn't intuitive. I only use Windows at work now, my personal computers are all either linux or MacOS... and I just installed linux on my old 2012 Macbook and 'it just (mostly) works'.

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                • O [email protected]

                  Yea, that's a Windows Home thing.

                  Upgrade to pro, where that stuff doesn't exist.

                  Not to justify it, but the thinking by MS is "this OS is free, so you get ads", like commercial TV or the rest of the nonsense on the internet.

                  Also, I've run Windows with updates disabled since Windows XP, and have rarely run into problems. I say this as someone who's been in IT since the early 90's. I've seen 10x more problems caused by updates at work than anything else.

                  At home I enable updates every 6 months, then go manually grab the updates I need, or else it'll update things that will break my system.

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                  I don’t use my Windows 10 desktop a ton, but I’ve definitely gotten the full page “Update to Windows 11” screen a few times, and it has Windows 10 Pro installed.

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                    The worst thing is the past few years android updates brought fuckall exciting new stuff and just more spyware and worse performance .

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                    Yeah, I was using stock pixel launcher forever until the most recent "update" that added yet another button to the search bar that you can't remove, that I used daily, and the button went conveniently right where my right thumb tapped. Switched to Lawnchair, and it's not without issue. Why can't shit that has worked just continue to work the same way?

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                      Your comment doesnt make any sense, i wouldnt want root access from GrapheneOS, that would break pretty much all of the security benefits.

                      The point is to not need to use expliots and break security just to configure your device how you want in the first place.

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                      The post was about someone losing root access via an auto-update which they disabled because it might remove their root access.

                      Your post was about GrapheneOS. If you rooted it, for whatever reason (maybe you need it to have privileged access to the apps on the hardware that you own), you will lose root access when you update it.

                      How does that not make sense?

                      I would rather think your post doesn't make so much sense, because GOS doesn't solve the root access issue when auto-updating, but it might honor the disablement of updates, I guess.

                      I am using GOS as well, but I wouldn't suggest it to someone needing root access for whatever reason.

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                        Gods above, I wish I could go back to before this stupid update. I was denying the update for months and then it went ahead and still updated in my sleep. I hate this update. Such a downgrade in so many ways.

                        If I understood it better, I'd change my OS at this point.

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                        I mean it didn't really change much? The few things it did, like the notification/action panel being separate you can undo

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                        • infinitevalence@discuss.onlineI [email protected]

                          Seriously this. I don't understand why suffering through manufacturers, customized skins and os's makes any sense when lineage is such a solid option.

                          Lineage on my phone Linux on my computers degoogling services running on a micro cluster. It's never been easier to get away from big tech.

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                          Did magisk become a lot better at hiding from banking apps? Because people have been saying "it's fine, just install magisk and use the option to hide it" but my experience is "it only works sometimes for some apps, otherwise you're fucked or you will be fucked next time the app updates its countermeasures". But that was a few years ago.

                          It's an absolute dealbreaker though. Without reliable mobile banking and eID it's very painful to do any kind of online payment or admin work.

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                            https://infosec.exchange/@ryanc/114901140203859448

                            i recomend this ancient talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUEvRyemKSg

                            https://redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=HUEvRyemKSg

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                            Yep, updated Sunday night after I pushed off the notifications for months. I feel like they punish you for making them do it too, because it turned my alarm off and I was late to work because of it. Funny how my last phone, an S8 never had the issue of me having to unlock my phone to initialize start up after restart.

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                            • ivanafterall@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

                              Thank God for the Bixby button though.

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                              I returned my Samsung phone over that button. Haven't touched their shit since.

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                                I use an app specifically designed to automatically dismiss notifications and I use it to dismiss this Samsung one you mentioned and the voice mail notification, which for some ridiculous reason can't be disabled.

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                                Which one

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                                  https://infosec.exchange/@ryanc/114901140203859448

                                  i recomend this ancient talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUEvRyemKSg

                                  https://redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=HUEvRyemKSg

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                                  I hate that my phone is held hostage. My computer is free thanks to linux, it just sucks theres few linux phones that work in the US.

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                                  • blackmist@feddit.ukB [email protected]

                                    Or that "Let's finish setting up your PC" box as if I haven't been fucking using it for ten years.

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                                    Which is just fucking using Onedrive to save your personal files on Microsoft's servers.

                                    Fuck you, Microsoft! I don't want to login with your fucking servers.

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                                      https://infosec.exchange/@ryanc/114901140203859448

                                      i recomend this ancient talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUEvRyemKSg

                                      https://redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=HUEvRyemKSg

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                                      But it’s cold outside.

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                                        “linux is too complicated”

                                        The worst part of this is that it's no longer true. Windows is WAY more complicated than Linux (can be) at this point.

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                                        I switched to Linux and it is "too complicated." Imo. There are a lot of compromises you have to make when you switch. I couldn't even get my first couple distros to work because they don't play nice with Nvidia.

                                        I switched to bazzite because it would actually work graphically and I mostly only use steam anyway, but it isn't all rainbows. I feel like I'm always switching Proton versions to get a game to load. I use Proton db, but idk I still have issues. GoG I use heroic and have the same problems. Also, installing software is a pain. It's not that hard to use CLI but I get sick of it when I just want my shit to work with 2 clicks. Ive tried to run windows apps wlbut just gave that up. Also getting used to the folder structure and placements take time.

                                        Plus, I can't seem to Google (or whatever) my problems. The help you get in Linux forums is usually " just switch to insert distro".

                                        I've worked IT jobs for about 10 years so I feel like I have some knowledge, but Linux has stumped me a couple times already. How is an non-tech person supposed to just switch?

                                        I'll never go back to Windows but you can't expect people to leave something that works for something that they have to fumble with to get working.

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                                          I feel Windows 10 and 11, which I am forced to use on various work computers, represent a new era of impossible to predict UI behavior. Like, hats off if that was intended, they succeeded. I can't make heads or tails of anything anymore, and the things I want are several options deep now.

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                                          You know you're on the right track when you click something, and suddenly the Fisher-Price interface goes away and it opens a dialog box that hasn't changed since Windows 2000.

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