[OC] That’s not the reason we need you for
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Twenty years ago, some savvy engineers created the Rumba. It's a kind of annoying overpriced vacuum cleaner, but you can at least see the edges of a useful appliance.
Ten years ago, everyone was smelling their own farts about the advent of autonomous taxis. And, idk, we can at least pretend we're in the ballpark right now.
Today, it's noticeable how AI feels like a surrender on actual autonomous machines. Like, the idea of doing actual robotics is out the window. We're only going to spend our money on a solved problem - data processing - and see what we can wring out of it.
I do wonder what this will mean in another ten or twenty years.
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Soon it will become good at cleaning and chores, then what would we do?
What happened to horses when the internal combustion engine became popular?
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I dont want chefs to be out of work either.
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Twenty years ago, some savvy engineers created the Rumba. It's a kind of annoying overpriced vacuum cleaner, but you can at least see the edges of a useful appliance.
Ten years ago, everyone was smelling their own farts about the advent of autonomous taxis. And, idk, we can at least pretend we're in the ballpark right now.
Today, it's noticeable how AI feels like a surrender on actual autonomous machines. Like, the idea of doing actual robotics is out the window. We're only going to spend our money on a solved problem - data processing - and see what we can wring out of it.
I do wonder what this will mean in another ten or twenty years.
It’ll get worse and more boring.
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What happened to horses when the internal combustion engine became popular?
We killed them all.
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We killed them all.
I don't think we killed them all, but there was certainly a lot less horse sex happening
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The robots make the music and art and the humans pack the boxes and deliver the food.
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Twenty years ago, some savvy engineers created the Rumba. It's a kind of annoying overpriced vacuum cleaner, but you can at least see the edges of a useful appliance.
Ten years ago, everyone was smelling their own farts about the advent of autonomous taxis. And, idk, we can at least pretend we're in the ballpark right now.
Today, it's noticeable how AI feels like a surrender on actual autonomous machines. Like, the idea of doing actual robotics is out the window. We're only going to spend our money on a solved problem - data processing - and see what we can wring out of it.
I do wonder what this will mean in another ten or twenty years.
there is plenty of work going on autonomous front but its solely focused on means to kill the peasants who try to inconvenience the oligarchs. take a look at palmers anduril industries. there are other such companies based in the confederate states.
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there is plenty of work going on autonomous front but its solely focused on means to kill the peasants who try to inconvenience the oligarchs. take a look at palmers anduril industries. there are other such companies based in the confederate states.
There's a lot of salesmanship going on. But whether it really does anything or it just outsources work to a Mechanical Turk or blows smoke up your ass?
Even Lavender AI seems more like an excuse for conventional manual massacre than a real Skynet for Palestinians.
What does Anduril do that the NSA or the CIA wasn't already doing, except maybe putting a thick coat of bullshit on the conclusion?
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There's a lot of salesmanship going on. But whether it really does anything or it just outsources work to a Mechanical Turk or blows smoke up your ass?
Even Lavender AI seems more like an excuse for conventional manual massacre than a real Skynet for Palestinians.
What does Anduril do that the NSA or the CIA wasn't already doing, except maybe putting a thick coat of bullshit on the conclusion?
nsa and cia can’t whack large number of americans without some risk of mutiny from the soldiers. ai based large scale precision strike does give them both the capability and excuse to do so. what’s easier, to ask 100k soldiers to kill 2-3 people each and feel no guilt or a dozen narcissistic psychopaths to kill 10k people each and feel godlike ? its not really rocket science just track their cell and do a missile/drone strike at the location with basic face detection. they don’t care for few false-positives. its not like any of the targets will be living near oligarchs palace or mega-yacht
you are right the lavender is far from skynet but it lets the israeli scums say that they are not indiscriminately killing innocents but based on petabytes of data analysed by microsoft. and you can’t punish ai for mistakes. bombing kids collecting water or destroying a dialysis center, oopsie sorry the ai hallucinated, we will ask trump for a multi-billion refund to buy more bombs for proper testing.
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Cooking can be an art too!
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Twenty years ago, some savvy engineers created the Rumba. It's a kind of annoying overpriced vacuum cleaner, but you can at least see the edges of a useful appliance.
Ten years ago, everyone was smelling their own farts about the advent of autonomous taxis. And, idk, we can at least pretend we're in the ballpark right now.
Today, it's noticeable how AI feels like a surrender on actual autonomous machines. Like, the idea of doing actual robotics is out the window. We're only going to spend our money on a solved problem - data processing - and see what we can wring out of it.
I do wonder what this will mean in another ten or twenty years.
So this is scary. We already know that POTUS has no quams about using ai to make shit fake videos. I would be surprised if his plan for indefinite term is actually chat gpt plan.
Ps. Chat gpt DOES actively try to manipulate you.
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Cooking can be an art too!
It's much easier to treat it as an art if you do it because you want to, not because you have to.
Like most things in life, really.
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It's much easier to treat it as an art if you do it because you want to, not because you have to.
Like most things in life, really.
Well said
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So this is scary. We already know that POTUS has no quams about using ai to make shit fake videos. I would be surprised if his plan for indefinite term is actually chat gpt plan.
Ps. Chat gpt DOES actively try to manipulate you.
Ps. Chat gpt DOES actively try to manipulate you.
No, it doesn't "try" to do anything. Don't antropomorphise it.
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So this is scary. We already know that POTUS has no quams about using ai to make shit fake videos. I would be surprised if his plan for indefinite term is actually chat gpt plan.
Ps. Chat gpt DOES actively try to manipulate you.
Ps. Chat gpt DOES actively try to manipulate you.
I think mostly it just tells you what it thinks you want to hear. If you push it hard enough to tell you something, it will tell you that. Grok, OTOH, is explicitly trained to try to give you biased answers.
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nsa and cia can’t whack large number of americans without some risk of mutiny from the soldiers. ai based large scale precision strike does give them both the capability and excuse to do so. what’s easier, to ask 100k soldiers to kill 2-3 people each and feel no guilt or a dozen narcissistic psychopaths to kill 10k people each and feel godlike ? its not really rocket science just track their cell and do a missile/drone strike at the location with basic face detection. they don’t care for few false-positives. its not like any of the targets will be living near oligarchs palace or mega-yacht
you are right the lavender is far from skynet but it lets the israeli scums say that they are not indiscriminately killing innocents but based on petabytes of data analysed by microsoft. and you can’t punish ai for mistakes. bombing kids collecting water or destroying a dialysis center, oopsie sorry the ai hallucinated, we will ask trump for a multi-billion refund to buy more bombs for proper testing.
nsa and cia can’t whack large number of americans without some risk of mutiny from the soldiers
I haven't seen any evidence of that. If anything, the number of ex-military in the new ICE would suggest the opposite.
it lets the israeli scums say that they are not indiscriminately killing innocents but based on petabytes of data analysed by microsoft
Sure. Drop a bomb, kill a dozen people, get a little print out that says "all of these people were terrorists".
It works well in Israel largely because the public (and particularly the military) are juiced on hate. They've already done 90% of the work of indoctrination up front.
You don't even talk about hallucinations. You just say "data indicated terrorists" and move on.
But it's trivial to tell a computer to tag a picture of a person as <img person="terrorist">. That's not something Palmer Luckey needs a multi billion dollar payday to accomplish. Just like with Elon, a bunch of this tech is smoke and mirrors. It's six guys dragging a CyberTaxi on stage, so a few dorks can step out and say "The Future is Magic Cars!"
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Cooking can be an art too!
Exactly, I'm not a bad cook, I'm a starving artist!
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Cooking can be an art too!
wrote last edited by [email protected]Honestly, everything that machines can do, there are some people who love doing it, and there can be an art to it. And for each such thing, other humans hate doing it and prefer automation.
Some people love cleaning, but we have robot vacuums and mops.
Some people love cooking and baking, but we have packaged food that requires minimal or no preparation.
Some people love woodworking or glassblowing, but most of our furniture and household items are mass produced.
Some people love managing their own computer or phone, but most people prefer to just let the manufacturer and operating system do it for them.
Some people love growing food with manual tools, but most farming these days is done with automatic machines.
Some people love driving, others can't wait for self-driving cars or prefer public transport just so they don't have to drive.
The list goes on. Anything can be an art.
I don't know what my stance is on this. I think automation is necessary for the sheer quantities we need. I also think passionate professionals can nearly always do a better job than a machine, but it's obviously more expensive and can't keep up with demand.
I guess the difference is that drawing and writing only have value as art. If I don't like drawing I almost never have to do it, but if I don't like preparing food I either suck it up and do it anyway hating every moment, or it can be (and, in fact, is) a serious detriment for my health and well-being.
