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    I love people getting upset when someone says fuck the troops 🥰

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      I love people getting upset when someone says fuck the troops 🥰

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      make sure you mean metaphorically

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        I'm not from the U.S., but why would people from the military get a discount? If you do that as a store, why not doctors and nurses too? Why stop there and why not include firefighters, government workers or teachers?

        And who compensates you as a business owner for these giveaways? If your store happens to be close to an army base, do you just accept the disadvantage of giving away part of your profit?

        It sounds pretty stupid. People should get paid enough to pay full price for their stuff. Especially by the government. Especially in a country that allocates an enormous part of their GDP to their military.

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        #130

        Teachers did actually get benefits in my country until 2016. It was a pretty decent system.

        If you are a landlord then having an operational school nearby increases local rent prices so you do get to profit from charging teachers less rent.

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          #131

          I worked at a popular restaurant near a major VA hospital, and this is how I explained why we only had a military discount for active duty, not veterans. Surprisingly, it seemed like a satisfactory explanation more often than not.

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            You're extremist that are driving politics to the fringes based on in/out group think. You're highly exploitable and manipulated by people in power while believing you're fighting for values that somehow superior to everyone and everything else. If you weren't all so ineffective you'd be dangerous.

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            being anti-mass murder is violent extremism, TIL

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              I don’t see how this is helpful. I guess you’re trying to remove incentives for joining the military? But really you’re just punishing veterans with PTSD. Keep in mind the military, at least in America, recruits what are effectively kids and then makes it a crime to disobey orders or quit. I’m not saying soldiers aren’t responsible for their actions, but also that kinda feels like punishing the working class for the crimes of the ruling class.

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              makes it a crime to disobey orders

              That's the opposite of the truth, if the orders are unlawful.

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                makes it a crime to disobey orders

                That's the opposite of the truth, if the orders are unlawful.

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                Getting an order proven unlawful in court martial is next to impossible. It's not like the movies. The order would have to be a long the lines of "shoot those pregnant women knitting socks for legless orphans"-level of evil in order to win the case.

                It'll be years of court while serving your sentence, a guaranteed separation, and questionable as to whether you'd even retain your benefits like healthcare or GI bill.

                You're probably better off pleading insanity than trying to argue an order was unlawful. It sucks but that's the way it is. The military is a machine made up of 100% expendable resources at this point.

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                  You're extremist that are driving politics to the fringes based on in/out group think. You're highly exploitable and manipulated by people in power while believing you're fighting for values that somehow superior to everyone and everything else. If you weren't all so ineffective you'd be dangerous.

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                  You’re extremist that are driving politics to the fringes based on in/out group think.

                  Can you elaborate on this, what in/out group think? Those that enable war crimes and those that dont?

                  You’re highly exploitable and manipulated by people in power

                  Which people in power recommend reading Marx, Lenin, Fanon, Feinberg or any of those people??

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                    Fuck Reddit and its suppression of my freedom to say removed

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                    Yeah, auto-censored Lemmy instances are peak freedom, indeed

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                      #137

                      The only time I would give a military discount would be if you are a military member that meets the following criteria:

                      • You were conscripted for a defensive war

                      OR

                      • You volunteered (as in you weren't paid) to fight a defensive war

                      If you fight for a professional army, you're a professional, and professionals don't need discounts because they're doing what they're paid to do.

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                        Actually that is not that insane. Canadian military often gets to take advantage to discounts in America.

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                        That something happens in America is not an indication that it isn't insane.

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                          I'm not from the U.S., but why would people from the military get a discount? If you do that as a store, why not doctors and nurses too? Why stop there and why not include firefighters, government workers or teachers?

                          And who compensates you as a business owner for these giveaways? If your store happens to be close to an army base, do you just accept the disadvantage of giving away part of your profit?

                          It sounds pretty stupid. People should get paid enough to pay full price for their stuff. Especially by the government. Especially in a country that allocates an enormous part of their GDP to their military.

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                          "Land of the free, home of the brave", but with the caveat that those other professions don't qualify as brave enough is my guess.

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                            Getting an order proven unlawful in court martial is next to impossible. It's not like the movies. The order would have to be a long the lines of "shoot those pregnant women knitting socks for legless orphans"-level of evil in order to win the case.

                            It'll be years of court while serving your sentence, a guaranteed separation, and questionable as to whether you'd even retain your benefits like healthcare or GI bill.

                            You're probably better off pleading insanity than trying to argue an order was unlawful. It sucks but that's the way it is. The military is a machine made up of 100% expendable resources at this point.

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                            Yeah that was my understanding as well. Mostly based on this video. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TwPLqGkYnBA

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                              Yeah, auto-censored Lemmy instances are peak freedom, indeed

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                              I censored it myself as a joke

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                                being anti-mass murder is violent extremism, TIL

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                                Same energy as being anti crime in Washington DC right now

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                                  I censored it myself as a joke

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                                  I guessed, because probably Fuck would also be removed. That's on point, still

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                                    Getting an order proven unlawful in court martial is next to impossible. It's not like the movies. The order would have to be a long the lines of "shoot those pregnant women knitting socks for legless orphans"-level of evil in order to win the case.

                                    It'll be years of court while serving your sentence, a guaranteed separation, and questionable as to whether you'd even retain your benefits like healthcare or GI bill.

                                    You're probably better off pleading insanity than trying to argue an order was unlawful. It sucks but that's the way it is. The military is a machine made up of 100% expendable resources at this point.

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                                    While I agree some cases may be like that, Law of War isn't very complex stuff and it is typically pretty easy to know whether an order is lawful or not (i.e., is a person or thing a lawful target or is it civillian in nature, etc.) The scenario outlined in the comment below about refusing Trumps orders wouldn't be interpreted by a low ranking grunt, but between much higher eschelons who will have access to an entire team of lawyers to determine legality.

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                                      My Dad died five years ago, and my mom will still spend 15 minutes haggling over his 10% military discount at Lowe's over $20 worth of plants. She doesn't do it anywhere else, just Lowe's.

                                      JFC, Mom, here's two bucks, let's move on.

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                                        I guessed, because probably Fuck would also be removed. That's on point, still

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                                        Ah dang, I didn't even think about that. It would've been funnier if I said "removed" instead of fuck too lol

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                                          My Dad died five years ago, and my mom will still spend 15 minutes haggling over his 10% military discount at Lowe's over $20 worth of plants. She doesn't do it anywhere else, just Lowe's.

                                          JFC, Mom, here's two bucks, let's move on.

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                                          you should warn her that could be considered a stolen valor crime.

                                          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stolen_Valor_Act_of_2013

                                          if someone wanted to report her she could face jail time and tarnishing your fathers military legacy.

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