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makes it a crime to disobey orders
That's the opposite of the truth, if the orders are unlawful.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Getting an order proven unlawful in court martial is next to impossible. It's not like the movies. The order would have to be a long the lines of "shoot those pregnant women knitting socks for legless orphans"-level of evil in order to win the case.
It'll be years of court while serving your sentence, a guaranteed separation, and questionable as to whether you'd even retain your benefits like healthcare or GI bill.
You're probably better off pleading insanity than trying to argue an order was unlawful. It sucks but that's the way it is. The military is a machine made up of 100% expendable resources at this point.
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You're extremist that are driving politics to the fringes based on in/out group think. You're highly exploitable and manipulated by people in power while believing you're fighting for values that somehow superior to everyone and everything else. If you weren't all so ineffective you'd be dangerous.
wrote last edited by [email protected]You’re extremist that are driving politics to the fringes based on in/out group think.
Can you elaborate on this, what in/out group think? Those that enable war crimes and those that dont?
You’re highly exploitable and manipulated by people in power
Which people in power recommend reading Marx, Lenin, Fanon, Feinberg or any of those people??
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Fuck Reddit and its suppression of my freedom to say removed
Yeah, auto-censored Lemmy instances are peak freedom, indeed
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The only time I would give a military discount would be if you are a military member that meets the following criteria:
- You were conscripted for a defensive war
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- You volunteered (as in you weren't paid) to fight a defensive war
If you fight for a professional army, you're a professional, and professionals don't need discounts because they're doing what they're paid to do.
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Actually that is not that insane. Canadian military often gets to take advantage to discounts in America.
That something happens in America is not an indication that it isn't insane.
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I'm not from the U.S., but why would people from the military get a discount? If you do that as a store, why not doctors and nurses too? Why stop there and why not include firefighters, government workers or teachers?
And who compensates you as a business owner for these giveaways? If your store happens to be close to an army base, do you just accept the disadvantage of giving away part of your profit?
It sounds pretty stupid. People should get paid enough to pay full price for their stuff. Especially by the government. Especially in a country that allocates an enormous part of their GDP to their military.
"Land of the free, home of the brave", but with the caveat that those other professions don't qualify as brave enough is my guess.
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Getting an order proven unlawful in court martial is next to impossible. It's not like the movies. The order would have to be a long the lines of "shoot those pregnant women knitting socks for legless orphans"-level of evil in order to win the case.
It'll be years of court while serving your sentence, a guaranteed separation, and questionable as to whether you'd even retain your benefits like healthcare or GI bill.
You're probably better off pleading insanity than trying to argue an order was unlawful. It sucks but that's the way it is. The military is a machine made up of 100% expendable resources at this point.
Yeah that was my understanding as well. Mostly based on this video. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TwPLqGkYnBA
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Yeah, auto-censored Lemmy instances are peak freedom, indeed
I censored it myself as a joke
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being anti-mass murder is violent extremism, TIL
Same energy as being anti crime in Washington DC right now
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I censored it myself as a joke
I guessed, because probably
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Getting an order proven unlawful in court martial is next to impossible. It's not like the movies. The order would have to be a long the lines of "shoot those pregnant women knitting socks for legless orphans"-level of evil in order to win the case.
It'll be years of court while serving your sentence, a guaranteed separation, and questionable as to whether you'd even retain your benefits like healthcare or GI bill.
You're probably better off pleading insanity than trying to argue an order was unlawful. It sucks but that's the way it is. The military is a machine made up of 100% expendable resources at this point.
While I agree some cases may be like that, Law of War isn't very complex stuff and it is typically pretty easy to know whether an order is lawful or not (i.e., is a person or thing a lawful target or is it civillian in nature, etc.) The scenario outlined in the comment below about refusing Trumps orders wouldn't be interpreted by a low ranking grunt, but between much higher eschelons who will have access to an entire team of lawyers to determine legality.
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My Dad died five years ago, and my mom will still spend 15 minutes haggling over his 10% military discount at Lowe's over $20 worth of plants. She doesn't do it anywhere else, just Lowe's.
JFC, Mom, here's two bucks, let's move on.
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I guessed, because probably
Fuckwould also be removed. That's on point, stillAh dang, I didn't even think about that. It would've been funnier if I said "removed" instead of fuck too lol
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My Dad died five years ago, and my mom will still spend 15 minutes haggling over his 10% military discount at Lowe's over $20 worth of plants. She doesn't do it anywhere else, just Lowe's.
JFC, Mom, here's two bucks, let's move on.
you should warn her that could be considered a stolen valor crime.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stolen_Valor_Act_of_2013
if someone wanted to report her she could face jail time and tarnishing your fathers military legacy.
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you should warn her that could be considered a stolen valor crime.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stolen_Valor_Act_of_2013
if someone wanted to report her she could face jail time and tarnishing your fathers military legacy.
"you will address me by my deceased husband's rank"
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The only time I would give a military discount would be if you are a military member that meets the following criteria:
- You were conscripted for a defensive war
OR
- You volunteered (as in you weren't paid) to fight a defensive war
If you fight for a professional army, you're a professional, and professionals don't need discounts because they're doing what they're paid to do.
wrote last edited by [email protected]As I understand it, it came from the military essentially vietnam vets off at bus stations and then letting the local communities figure out what to do with them from there. It's been co-opted to some degree, especially by the larger chains, but most of the local businesses near me keep up the practice because the military traps the uneducated into contracts that pay far less than poverty wages. Among many things, it's a way of maintaining some measure of goodwill between local communities and military bases, and it's looking more and more likely that we're going to need every scrap of good feeling we can get as this slow descent into fascism continues...
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I never even think to ask for a discount unless it's a large purchase. Then I'm just looking for any discount I can get. Or if it's a right leaning, boot licking type of place.
I only ever ask at corporate box stores, small business, and especially veteran owned business, I'll actually refuse a discount if offered.
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Years ago I used my USAA card to pay for food at a mall food court and the cashier gave me a military discount since my dad used to be in the army. Only time that's ever happened. I didn't ask for it, but I certainly didn't turn it down.
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That's not what a military discount is or does. It's for active duty only, or full time retired, meaning you need an active and valid military ID on your person that matches YOU. Not your wife, not your friend Larry, not your brother Darrell, not your OTHER brother Darrell, YOU. It's one of the things that makes life harder for people who leave the military. And while your in it, it does you little good.
I know this because I've managed stores with military discounts. The only thing worse than having to say ''we don't do that'' is ''Yes we do'' Because the reality is that unless your talking to an old guy in a military insignia cap, or a surprisingly young enlisted person in uniform or military sweats, they aren't getting the ID. You got your shins blown off in Vietnam? Well fuck you, the discount is for active enlisted and CAREER officers. No one the fuck else. Guess how many dessert storm, Vietnam, Iraq, Korean War, or WWII vets like hearing that shit explained to them. They are LIVID. They want ass pats and bjs they don't want to hear they can't save $0.07 on a pile of lumber because they didn't make being drafted a career just got PTSD and forever shrapnel. I LOVE telling people no discount for anyone. It's fantastic.
Ah I get it now, yup that is shitty. I have some compassion for someone who was stupid enough as a kid to enlist. But only for active members? Love how in America we all get fucked over, unless you win the wealth lottery.
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Ah I get it now, yup that is shitty. I have some compassion for someone who was stupid enough as a kid to enlist. But only for active members? Love how in America we all get fucked over, unless you win the wealth lottery.
Yeah and while your in, you don't have the free time or money to use a military discount for anything significant.
