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    So you're telling me it didn't completely change society immediately after airing?

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      That’s a rehash episode they did years or even decades later (hard to say with the simpsons offhand) when the writing got a lot more “phone it in”. The episode they tweet references an episode from the second season and she’s mad about itchy and scratchy, the meta cartoon inside the show.

      As others have said though this argument predates the simpsons by basically the entirety of modern human existence

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      itchy and scratchy, the meta cartoon inside the show

      Where’s Poochie?

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        I hate that this meme makes it sound like "can you believe we've been talking about the same thing since 1990?!" completely ignoring the Moral Majority movement of the 80s and even all censorship efforts in the decades prior to that.

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        What a shame that the efforts of Frank Zappa, John Denver, and Dee Snyder are all but forgotten.

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          What a shame that the efforts of Frank Zappa, John Denver, and Dee Snyder are all but forgotten.

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          Dee Snider's speech at the Senate Hearing is a fucking banger.

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            I hate that this meme makes it sound like "can you believe we've been talking about the same thing since 1990?!" completely ignoring the Moral Majority movement of the 80s and even all censorship efforts in the decades prior to that.

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            Or, you know... the Nazis.

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              I’m committing to Godwin’s Law:

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degenerate_art

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              Godwin's Law stopped applying when the internet became overrun with literal Nazis. Don't let them use that shit as cover.

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                So you're telling me it didn't completely change society immediately after airing?

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                1990 was 35 years ago. How exactly do you define "immediate"?

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                  I hate that this meme makes it sound like "can you believe we've been talking about the same thing since 1990?!" completely ignoring the Moral Majority movement of the 80s and even all censorship efforts in the decades prior to that.

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                  Kind of a dumb reason to hate it. Because it doesn't include the entire breadth of this issue?

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                    Yeah, there's nothing new under the sun. These conversations are likely as old as humanity. It's an ongoing and living discussion about societal boundaries. I don't see it being "resolved" any time soon either.

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                    That Venus of Willendorf, all with her big ol titties hangin out like smdh fr fr.

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                      I hate that this meme makes it sound like "can you believe we've been talking about the same thing since 1990?!" completely ignoring the Moral Majority movement of the 80s and even all censorship efforts in the decades prior to that.

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                      I guess that's one way to read it, but the Simpsons is still in living memory for most people since it's still running so it's more relatable thread for people

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                        So you're telling me it didn't completely change society immediately after airing?

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                        Well, not that chocked. Probably not all society was paying attention at the time. Or since.

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                          Or, you know... the Nazis.

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                          Or pope Clement chopping them dicks

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                            Know your history.

                            The Comstock Act

                            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comstock_Act_of_1873

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                              The only freedom which counts is the freedom to do what some other people think to be wrong. There is no point in demanding freedom to do that which all will applaud. All the so-called liberties or rights are things which have to be asserted against others; who claim that if such things are to be allowed, their own rights are infringed or their own liberties threatened. This is always true, even when we speak of the freedom to worship, of the right of free speech or association, or of public assembly. If we are to allow freedoms at all there will constantly be complaints that either the liberty itself or the way in which it is exercised is being abused, and, if it is a genuine freedom, these complaints will often be justified. There is no way of having a free society in which there is not abuse. Abuse is the very hallmark of liberty.

                              Lord Hailsham, Lord Chancellor of England

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                                I just can't even stand the personality of someone who's first fucking instinct when they see violent or sexual media is "If I don't like it no one should be allowed to see it." Fuck off.

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                                The worst are the people who are ok with their kids watching extreme violence or gore, like a SAW movie, but freak the hell out if their kid might see some exposed breasts, let alone a sex scene.

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                                  So you're telling me it didn't completely change society immediately after airing?

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                                  I still have that nagging impression that we're going backwards, that we were already further ahead a few years ago than we are now. The 90s and early 00s weren't perfect, but they felt more like good things are possible.

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                                    Know your history.

                                    The Comstock Act

                                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comstock_Act_of_1873

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                                    Isn't that the Bioshocl character

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                                      Isn't that the Bioshocl character

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                                      Impossible. The apolitical gem BioShock?

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                                        I still have that nagging impression that we're going backwards, that we were already further ahead a few years ago than we are now. The 90s and early 00s weren't perfect, but they felt more like good things are possible.

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                                        https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/abs/revolution-and-reaction/reactionary-waves-across-history/8D9C4F045DCEF9CADE1C323317A976B2

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                                          Mike Godwin: “By all means, compare these shitheads to the Nazis”

                                          But also, the qualification of certain types of art as “degenerate” is a symptom of second feature of Ur-Fascism, “traditionalism.”

                                          Traditionalism implies the rejection of modernism. Both Fascists and Nazis worshiped technology, while traditionalist thinkers usually reject it as a negation of traditional spiritual values. However, even though Nazism was proud of its industrial achievements, its praise of modernism was only the surface of an ideology based upon Blood and Earth (Blut und Boden). The rejection of the modern world was disguised as a rebuttal of the capitalistic way of life, but it mainly concerned the rejection of the Spirit of 1789 (and of 1776, of course). The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.

                                          Umberto Eco, Ur-Fascism

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