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YouTube just quietly blocked Adblock Plus — the internet hasn't noticed yet, but I've found a workaround

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  • viking@infosec.pubV [email protected]

    My thoughts exactly, what a heap of crap. Tom's Guide used to be one of the good ones out there, real shame.

    What I was wondering though is if they detect browser plugins through some public ID - how difficult is it to change those? In Firefox it's absolutely trivial, you can simply download the extension, open it as a zip file, and then edit the files inside with a text editor and change the ID.

    Haven't used chrome for years, but extensions used to be javascript files just as well, so I doubt they are that hard to edit. Unless they found a way to block installations from local files and enforce their shop, no idea if that's a thing.

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    if they detect browser plugins through some public ID - how difficult is it to change those?

    I actually dismissed that one from the get go since there is not confirmation of any mechanism they described in the article. Not going to spend time on technical-looking explanations from someone who calls a whole another extension a "workaround". Might as well be the case of broken or outdated filters in ABP.

    I'm sure if some major site finds a way to know your extensions we'll see some major unsolvable issues.

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    • sexy_peach@feddit.orgS [email protected]

      Everyone else has switched to Ublock Origin adblocker years ago 🙂 Try it, it's the only real one

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      10+years ago since they annouced the whitelisting of adlbock plus around that time.it was around the same time youtube to started drastically increasing thier advertisements.

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        I got a question in my head just now.

        DNS sinkhole doesnt help with youtube ads but UBO does. DNS doesn't help with twitch ads and neither UBO does. Why is that youtube doesn't do the same what twitch does?

        On a side note, my ads on twitch are basically "ad is in progress" screen and not an actual ad. And lately YT has couple of seconds with no video in the beginning as if it loads (1Gbit connection) but eventually loads up and plays with no interruptions after.

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          Yes even meta noticed that the qualityof videos on peertube is increased, they're illegally scraping all the content for training their closed source for-profit ai video generator

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          Illegally? Is training that actually illegal under any current laws?

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          • dremor@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

            To my knowledge, sponsors do not give money to Google, just to the creator. So SponsorBlock isn't needed.
            But I have to admit that some sponsored segments can be obnoxious as hell, so I can understand why one would use it.

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            When I'm using sponsorblock, I sometimes just stop watching if I see a long sponsor section, regardless. If the poster has like 20% of their video used to talk about shilling something, then they're probably not someone I trust.

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              No uBlock on my phone. 😞

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              On Firefox on Android you can use extensions. I've been using uBO for years on my phone.

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                Illegally? Is training that actually illegal under any current laws?

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                I mean the content is hosted under a license that doesn't allow commercial exploitation without permission.

                But this doesn't stop meta because copyright laws don't apply to them, see the over 2000 porn movies that they torrented

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                  Oh my. THANK YOU for that edgeblocker! Going to get that on every computer in my home.

                  Yeah I'm not "the boss" of my parents. My dad was very tech savvy, but he doesn't have the same memory and cognition as he used to so when I set it up nice he likes it, but any friction sets him off to "solve" the problem... By doing some random totally different thing that doesn't so much solve the problem as "gets it working, sort of" with a browser he recognizes. Then because there are ads he loses interest and just puts on the 24/7 news cycle. 😞

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                  On the off chance that you have not heard that Linux is way more user friendly now, I recommend switching over. Especially if you are able to update the computer frequently.

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                    Some of us made Gmail accounts long before Youtube even existed, and still rely on youtube for tutorials and other things of that nature that aren't found anywhere else.

                    Don't be a pretentious dick about it.

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                    I was just thinking that I should host a "how to" peertube instance.

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                      I got a question in my head just now.

                      DNS sinkhole doesnt help with youtube ads but UBO does. DNS doesn't help with twitch ads and neither UBO does. Why is that youtube doesn't do the same what twitch does?

                      On a side note, my ads on twitch are basically "ad is in progress" screen and not an actual ad. And lately YT has couple of seconds with no video in the beginning as if it loads (1Gbit connection) but eventually loads up and plays with no interruptions after.

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                      I don't work on uBlock or even webdev but it doesn't take much of a stretch to think YouTube's servers will refuse to immediately transmit a video stream after the webpage is requested; probably waiting for a typical user to skip 2 30-sec ads.

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                        I was just thinking that I should host a "how to" peertube instance.

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                        I think that's a great idea. We shouldn't turn away potential users, nor should we mock current YouTube users who might be willing but not have the knowledge to do so.

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                          On the off chance that you have not heard that Linux is way more user friendly now, I recommend switching over. Especially if you are able to update the computer frequently.

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                          Thank you. I have heard that, and I'm interested in switch my home computer and "Netflix and YouTube on the tv" computer over.

                          Any recommendations on where to start with that?

                          I used Linux as a 11 year old back in.... Late 90's? And it was not user friendly but I was so cool it didn't matter....

                          Until I couldn't get a game other than Quake 2 running on my lan network.

                          Haven't checked on it since but I'm overdue and ready.

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                            I see, but lite is much less effective. google has worked hard to make it lose its capabilities. it may still be effective at blocking youtube ads (though as it cannot use frequently updatable blocklists it probably has a higher delay for fixes when something breaks), but it cannot have specific rules for less popular sites, because of chrome's low limit on allowed filtering rules, and even though it can hide ads, that's not the sole function of ublock origin. ubo is a complex content blocker, with versatile tools to defuse site tracking on lots of websites. lite cannot do that anymore effectively, because both its capabilities have been reduced (e.g. it cannot edit network traffic anymore I think), and the number of filtering rules that it can load.

                            and even before lite, ubo could not be as effective on chrome as on firefox, because of slight differences in the extension api, with not so slight practical differences.

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                            yeah, lite is worse, no arguing there

                            Luckily I use Maxthon which stll supports uBlock Oriigin non Lite. When it stopps, Firefox here we go 🙂

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