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    Replacing everyone, especially on a global scale, is unlikely to be possible, since it is too expensive. But working in large companies and earning a lot of money may not work out as before, although this will depend on the country you are in and whether your government goes crazy or not.

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      It's so old that it was for purposes of saving memory.

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      Back when optimization was Black Magic. Now we just tell the customers they need better hardware.

      Someone probably had to argue hard to get 3 letter variables. Guarantee there was some one arguing for 1 letter variables.

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        And here I thought to have heard the funniest joke you can make. Farming. With current climate change dynamics. If I could do that, I would rather do something funnier, like bets.

        And about who would be where: if Lemmy still stands ten years after, chances are I will be here too. But I feel safe to count on "bubble has burst, it's in the news. How ya feel there" within a few years. Will ping you for sure

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        My great grandfather was a ferrier, a person who shoes horses. He trained from the age of 12 on how to trim hooves and set nails and repair damage. By all accounts he was very good at it. And at the time automobiles were only for the ultra rich as a hobby or a social statement. Horses were for everyone else, and my great granpappy was pretty sure he had a career for life and to heck with those new fangled rotomobiles

        But it took less than 15 years for horse ownership to collapse (and a good thing too, most cities were facing a dung removal logistical nightmare) and he went from a skilled tradesman to a day laborer to a dead alcoholic in less than 20 years

        Maybe you can learn some lessons from his arrogance.

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          My great grandfather was a ferrier, a person who shoes horses. He trained from the age of 12 on how to trim hooves and set nails and repair damage. By all accounts he was very good at it. And at the time automobiles were only for the ultra rich as a hobby or a social statement. Horses were for everyone else, and my great granpappy was pretty sure he had a career for life and to heck with those new fangled rotomobiles

          But it took less than 15 years for horse ownership to collapse (and a good thing too, most cities were facing a dung removal logistical nightmare) and he went from a skilled tradesman to a day laborer to a dead alcoholic in less than 20 years

          Maybe you can learn some lessons from his arrogance.

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          Oh, that I can, and thank you for your message, really. With that said, here is the differences: cars did work as a transport, and AI as it is marketed (magic replacer of all) does not, and even in the narrow use case of programming - no, it does not. It can produce heaps of lines of code, it cannot do the work of building a reliable software that does what is required of it. It has also failed to replace artists. So no, I am not afraid

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            Here ya go: in US someone has the audacity to ask people to use less water so that AI can function. Yet the whole city has been growing in population just fine for quite some time. A mystery, right?

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            I never said that. Reread my comment. I want people to say "hey we should use less resources" and a good way to do that is not endlessly replicate ego spawn like a mindless virus.

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              I once heard an arrogant fuck go on super confidently for like 2 hours about how AI will never master natural speaking voices

              So yeah, be blase about the biggest existential threat to your careers that has ever existed.

              The real tragic part is that all of you laughing are going to be unemployable within a decade

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              We meet again mr angry autist, and I must say, you have got a bit of an r/unpopularopinion

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                My great grandfather was a ferrier, a person who shoes horses. He trained from the age of 12 on how to trim hooves and set nails and repair damage. By all accounts he was very good at it. And at the time automobiles were only for the ultra rich as a hobby or a social statement. Horses were for everyone else, and my great granpappy was pretty sure he had a career for life and to heck with those new fangled rotomobiles

                But it took less than 15 years for horse ownership to collapse (and a good thing too, most cities were facing a dung removal logistical nightmare) and he went from a skilled tradesman to a day laborer to a dead alcoholic in less than 20 years

                Maybe you can learn some lessons from his arrogance.

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                yes, in future IF ai replaces me as a programmer(which as explained is not possible), then I shall start working alongside it.

                See cars replaced horses, but not humans, our need for progress is insatiable and I doubt any software program can emulate human intelligence

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                  I once heard an arrogant fuck go on super confidently for like 2 hours about how AI will never master natural speaking voices

                  So yeah, be blase about the biggest existential threat to your careers that has ever existed.

                  The real tragic part is that all of you laughing are going to be unemployable within a decade

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                  Some of us have applicable skills that can’t be replaced by a computer or a robot.

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                    The worst part of your undeserved arrogance is that I won't be there to see it bite you on your ass in a career ending way.

                    Maybe take up farming?

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                    You're very spiteful and for so little reason. Maybe don't do that?

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                      "assumptions"? Maybe consider how "I'm so sick of coding" implies you're doing coding? I'm so sick of driving, oh no somebody 'assumed' I'm a driver instead of a mechanic. Believe it or not, most people 'assume' something when you use sentences that imply it. CrAZy, riGhT? 😲

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                      ...why would a professional whatever make a remark for technology doing their job for them and making their career redundant?

                      Farmer, coder, driver, whatever. "I can't wait for the bots to do this" is not a common muttering. Except maybe if in the c-suite...

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                        Now, that is completely understandable. This is also a reason I don’t publish most of my things. They work, they work well, but… Some of it is kind of nasty. However, other developers are going to understand. Just mention this in the read me file. Or better yet, use this as an opportunity to refactor code. An LLM could be very helpful For that process.

                        If you are not familiar with the process of using git or GitHub, i’m sure many of us, including myself, would be more than happy to help you.

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                        Thanks a lot! I'll try to figure it out myself first, and might get back to you if the need arises!

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                          Oh, that I can, and thank you for your message, really. With that said, here is the differences: cars did work as a transport, and AI as it is marketed (magic replacer of all) does not, and even in the narrow use case of programming - no, it does not. It can produce heaps of lines of code, it cannot do the work of building a reliable software that does what is required of it. It has also failed to replace artists. So no, I am not afraid

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                          Compare AI generated content from now and 2 years ago and extrapolate the curve

                          It's not linear, but your monkey brain will insist it is

                          That's why you're not afraid.

                          Honestly taking programmer jobs isn't even close to the worst thing AI is going to do to us

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                            Ah, just kill half the humans. That will make water consumption go way down. Follow me for more resource-saving tips

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                            Well, not half. Just a tiny amount, some would say that just 1% is enough.

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                              Compare AI generated content from now and 2 years ago and extrapolate the curve

                              It's not linear, but your monkey brain will insist it is

                              That's why you're not afraid.

                              Honestly taking programmer jobs isn't even close to the worst thing AI is going to do to us

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                              Yes, it's not linear. The progress of GenAI in the past 2 years is logarithmic at best, if you compare it with the boom that was 2019-2023 (from GPT2 to GPT4 in text, DALL-E 1 to 3 in images). The big companies trained their networks on all of the internet and ran out of training data, if you compare GPT4 to GPT5 it's pretty obvious. Unless there's a significant algorithmic breakthrough (which is looking less and less likely), at least text-based AI is not going to have another order-of-magniture improvement for a long time. Sure, it can already replace like 10% of devs who are doing boring JS stuff, but replacing at least half of the dev workforce is a pipe dream of the C-suite for now.

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                                Some of us have applicable skills that can’t be replaced by a computer or a robot.

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                                Some of us will be replaced the old fashioned way. By a underpaid worker in a third word country that will ask for one tenth of the money for the same job.

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                                  I never said that. Reread my comment. I want people to say "hey we should use less resources" and a good way to do that is not endlessly replicate ego spawn like a mindless virus.

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                                  I didn't read it that way. In this case - yes, we most definitely should

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                                    Compare AI generated content from now and 2 years ago and extrapolate the curve

                                    It's not linear, but your monkey brain will insist it is

                                    That's why you're not afraid.

                                    Honestly taking programmer jobs isn't even close to the worst thing AI is going to do to us

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                                    My monkey brain keeps hearing of non-linear progress, and things keep staying here:

                                    Besides that, since you insist on being fearful: why AI of all things and not a handful of rich assholes who actually make our lives hard every damn day?

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                                      I once heard an arrogant fuck go on super confidently for like 2 hours about how AI will never master natural speaking voices

                                      So yeah, be blase about the biggest existential threat to your careers that has ever existed.

                                      The real tragic part is that all of you laughing are going to be unemployable within a decade

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                                      Living up to the username I see

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                                        Everyone complains about water consumption, energy use, and pollution of the ai yet fail to compare the use to its human counterparts

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                                        You can turn off AI/datacenters. If you try to turn off humans on a large scale, it's called genocide.

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                                          Listen to yourself, Thinking I'd start the reduction with unemployed people as if there isn't another class of people who do less for society. Try to think outside of the boomer education you received and those indoctrination Sundays

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                                          Ok, so you are advocating for mass murder, is that right?

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