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Bethesda's re-releases and remasters are getting outta control.

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    #22

    The original Oblivion was the first AAA game I played!

    IMO giving good games a second wave of hype like that isn't a bad thing, as long as it's not totally butchered.

    ...But Skyrim (specifically the latest re-release) has aged better than Oblivion, I'd say. It's kinda past a threshold where the visuals are okay enough, and gameplay ergonomic enough, where even the original isn't so jarring compared to, say, KCD II and all its hyper fanciness. Like, Daggerfall -> Morrowind was a different world, Morrowind -> Oblivion was like you're in reality, Oblivion -> Skyrim was dramatic, but... stuff after that feels more like icing?

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      Counterpoint, the System Shock 1 remake was an absolute banger and probably would not have been possible in the modern ecosystem as a faithful remaster. It absolutely needed to be cooked again from the ground up, and Night Dive did this very skillfully and turned a game that, while good, was notoriously difficult to parse and control, into a modern immersive sim RPG shooter that anyone can understand.

      Remakes can be good when the team behind them understands the product that they are remaking and the audience that will be playing it.

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        Okay, hear me out... I have no place for this anymore because conspiracy theories are overrun by super crazy people... but that's not my point right now...

        So, my conspiracy theory is that some government entity established satirical websites as a means to spread misinformation or to desensitize the population..

        It's really strange that like pre 2008 (i dont have excat dates here), there were basically none of these kinds of sites, and then they started popping up everywhere...

        It's one of those things that I believe got us to this point...

        But I'm probably crazy and wrong who knows

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        #24

        Speaking as someone who got literally any humanities education:

        The whole 'predictive programming' thing only works on absolute inhumanly stupid dumbfucks who unironically join the 'homelander' fan club. People need to be made that stupid, and doing it while teaching them how to read and fo arithmetic was a hell of an achievement.

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          "the government spreads conspiracy theories" has been a (proven) theory since conspiracy theories existed

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          • Carrots are good for your eyesight

          • the [common enemy] did it

          • Fats are bad for you

          This aes but three of many.

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            Bethesda made it sound like all studio resources prioritized starfield first, they've only been working on ES6 for a year or two. Just 10 more years to go!

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            The thing is with how tes5 went they kiiiiind of need to have nazi elves as the bad guys they were setting up, and they kiiiiind of need to be extremely the bad guys, and thats gonna be rough in the current political climate-they're literally in the same city as a naval academy and nsa hq; it would be super awkward.

            I mean, they should, but they're kind of owned by MS so...

            Edit: or we coukd just say that making an mmo is the end of any series.

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              I can assure you with absolute certainty that satire has been an established tradition for a very long time before 2008

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              But you provide no references, which mean none exist! My god, maybe this commenter is on to something and satire was invented in 2008 to turn us into sheeple!

              (I love a good/shit conspiracy theory and stand equally behind op and this comment)

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                I can assure you with absolute certainty that satire has been an established tradition for a very long time before 2008

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                Lies. Voltaire was a deep state psy op

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                  The trailer could use a remaster though

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                    Okay, hear me out... I have no place for this anymore because conspiracy theories are overrun by super crazy people... but that's not my point right now...

                    So, my conspiracy theory is that some government entity established satirical websites as a means to spread misinformation or to desensitize the population..

                    It's really strange that like pre 2008 (i dont have excat dates here), there were basically none of these kinds of sites, and then they started popping up everywhere...

                    It's one of those things that I believe got us to this point...

                    But I'm probably crazy and wrong who knows

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                    The Onion started publishing in 1988, and was online by 1996.

                    Landover Baptist has been on the net since 1998. I stumbled on it as kid, back when the family computer was for playing Neopets.

                    There’s been an increase in satire websites for sure, largely driven by the popularity of the Onion, and it does cause problems. There are conservative outlets which 100% put out complete and utter bullshit under the guise of “satire,” knowing that their audience has the gullibility of a five year old, and that’ll end up on garbage Facebook pages as unironic.

                    It’s not “conspiracy” but more - the Onion is very popular, popular things get knock offs, and opportunists saw a way to inject lies or laziness into the public discourse, while claiming they’re “satire.” (Similar to how CinemaSins on YouTube uses the term, “we were wrong about a basic thing in the movie? psych! the jokes on you for taking it seriously!)

                    I really miss that brief time that the Babylon Bee was good.

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                      I have zero interest in them remastering the older games. I 100% do not want an unreal engine Morrowind remaster. I want Morrowind to be a buggy exploitable mess where I can buff my intelligence and speed into 5 digit numbers.

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                        People who buy this crap are out of control. Vote with your wallet.

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                          People who buy this crap are out of control. Vote with your wallet.

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                          I was in highschool when skyrim came out, that one cracked install we had was shared like a used needle

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                            The original Oblivion was the first AAA game I played!

                            IMO giving good games a second wave of hype like that isn't a bad thing, as long as it's not totally butchered.

                            ...But Skyrim (specifically the latest re-release) has aged better than Oblivion, I'd say. It's kinda past a threshold where the visuals are okay enough, and gameplay ergonomic enough, where even the original isn't so jarring compared to, say, KCD II and all its hyper fanciness. Like, Daggerfall -> Morrowind was a different world, Morrowind -> Oblivion was like you're in reality, Oblivion -> Skyrim was dramatic, but... stuff after that feels more like icing?

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                            skyrim just needs a round of polish; bump up texture quality and polygon counts, and go over the actual content and make that less absurd and disconnected from the world.
                            Like go through every part of the game while having witcher 3 on another monitor, so the lackluster parts of skyrim inflict physical pain.

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                              The thing is with how tes5 went they kiiiiind of need to have nazi elves as the bad guys they were setting up, and they kiiiiind of need to be extremely the bad guys, and thats gonna be rough in the current political climate-they're literally in the same city as a naval academy and nsa hq; it would be super awkward.

                              I mean, they should, but they're kind of owned by MS so...

                              Edit: or we coukd just say that making an mmo is the end of any series.

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                              adding a more proper single player experience to ESO and rebranding it to TES6 would be a fucking universe brain move

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                                adding a more proper single player experience to ESO and rebranding it to TES6 would be a fucking universe brain move

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                                Nah. There's never more single player content after the mmo.

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                                  I have zero interest in them remastering the older games. I 100% do not want an unreal engine Morrowind remaster. I want Morrowind to be a buggy exploitable mess where I can buff my intelligence and speed into 5 digit numbers.

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                                  to be fair what has happened to oblivion is that the game still runs entirely on the old creation engine, but the renderer and all the graphics assets have been swapped for unreal engine. you get old bugs as well as new bugs.

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