Why aren't you creating more workers??
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I’d put a baby in you. Not like through sex. just standard surgical procedure
Oh! Could we keep it in my thigh? I want a fun new conversation piece!
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Currently living that live and fuck me is life easy right now. Cats instead of kids is a very tempting option.
Me too! Our cat is the perfect child, most of the time. Except when she pukes on the bed.
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Then they do the calculation on the costs to raise the children and decide it's not economically viable.
It’s always economically viable, just a matter of tracking all the expenses and adding it to the child’s debt. As soon as it’s old enough to work you can garnish it’s wages for all that unpaid debt
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Me too! Our cat is the perfect child, most of the time. Except when she pukes on the bed.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Children also do disgusting things but they usually grow out of it, whereas a cat can be joking up hairballs its entire life
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I think it is worth figuring out how to manage it - the alternative isn't super sustainable. The other thing is that it is like a 50 year challenge, which isn't insurmountable.
But that’s the thing - it will take 50 years …. After we start.
Continuing to make it more of a challenge to raise kids is not an auspicious start
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Most places are actually experiencing a birth rate decline. South Korea is having statistically less than one child per woman. Other places like Europe are also projected to shrink.
So, it’s already happening, that’s why countries are freaking out and trying to force births now. The policy shift in the US on abortion isn’t based on religion, it’s economics.
US birth rate hit 1.6, a “stable” birth rate is just over 2.1… mind you that’s the estimate for a population not growing or declining.
But we’ve usually made up for it with relatively high immigration, so we’re ok for now as long as we don’t screw with that …..
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Dumb question: do we really need more people? It feels very much like technology/productivity will allow us to support a good lifestyle with fewer people.
It’s only a dumb question if you’re looking at all the people now. Birth rates across the board are declining and most developed countries are well below replacement. We’re just not noticing yet because people live like 80 years.
Most population projections have us peaking in 25-50 years, then population declines. That’s not all bad but how steeply does population decline and when does it stop? How does it impact economies, politics, who had influence and power. It looks like it could be steep and disruptive, with no prediction on when it will level off.
However if we start mitigating that, start encouraging people to have children, provide more support for raising children, give more hope to potential parents, working together for a brighter future consistently for the next 50 years perhaps we can manage the decline for least disruption. Perhaps we can find a sustainable population to level off at which is still big enough for today’s rapid advancements
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On a more positive note the newest IPCC report on climate has population decline being the biggest positive impact on climate change, so keep at it!
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Capitalism would also charge for every part of the process, raising the price as some techno feudal lord thinks they can find the right balance between extinction pricing and maximum shareholder value.
Capitalism
would alsocharges for every part of the processFTFY
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A friend of mine has three kids and works 70 hours a week. He is not able to make enough to support his family, and social services have been cut so much that his only option is to take out a personal loan, which will only make his problem worse.
14 hours leaves you barely 2 hours of personal time in a day. That's barely enough to just eat and maybe relax but then if you have 3 kids even that time is gone taking care of them. How and why would anyone put themselves through this, like after the first or second kid wouldn't your own limits become apparent
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You said ban birth control and porn? Got it.
So that's why suddenly there's all this interest in banning porn
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Growing up, I was of the mindset that I would have got married and started a family by this point in my life. But as of the last few years, my thoughts have done just about a 180.
Even if I was currently with someone/married, I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t want to raise kids in this day and age in the US (the bullet dodged me when my ex-girlfriend used plan b after we got intimate without protection). I think best case scenario for me now would be DINK, but gotta find someone that can put up with my dumpster fires first.
Same dink is my dream but hard to find partners who are into it, or who you like and who like you
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I'm trying to get pregnant, but it's kinda hard when you're a guy. I won't stop trying, tho. 🫡
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14 hours leaves you barely 2 hours of personal time in a day. That's barely enough to just eat and maybe relax but then if you have 3 kids even that time is gone taking care of them. How and why would anyone put themselves through this, like after the first or second kid wouldn't your own limits become apparent
14 hours leaves you barely 2 hours of personal time in a day
You've misspelled "commute"
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14 hours leaves you barely 2 hours of personal time in a day
You've misspelled "commute"
Yeah didn't think about that but that's probably another 2 hours of energy spent on driving, because everything is spread out and there's no good public transportation options outside of specific areas
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I'm trying to get pregnant, but it's kinda hard when you're a guy. I won't stop trying, tho. 🫡
Never give up
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I'm trying to get pregnant, but it's kinda hard when you're a guy. I won't stop trying, tho. 🫡
Auto-insemination?
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This raises birth rates
I was born with a penis but Luigi Mangione activated my ovaries
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I want biological kids, and I'm right about the point in my life where it would make the most sense to have them. But whenever family asks about it, I tell them I'm not raising children in this kind of administration. They try to suggest that it's not that bad and I stand firm that they're not seeing grandbabies until the government stops being so fashy.
Actually, millennials could probably hold our hypothetical babies hostage, see what's more important to them.
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I want biological kids, and I'm right about the point in my life where it would make the most sense to have them. But whenever family asks about it, I tell them I'm not raising children in this kind of administration. They try to suggest that it's not that bad and I stand firm that they're not seeing grandbabies until the government stops being so fashy.
Actually, millennials could probably hold our hypothetical babies hostage, see what's more important to them.
Women have a biological clock on them, makes no sense waiting for different admin.
