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Why aren't you creating more workers??

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  • sunbrrnslapper@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

    Dumb question: do we really need more people? It feels very much like technology/productivity will allow us to support a good lifestyle with fewer people.

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    It’s only a dumb question if you’re looking at all the people now. Birth rates across the board are declining and most developed countries are well below replacement. We’re just not noticing yet because people live like 80 years.

    Most population projections have us peaking in 25-50 years, then population declines. That’s not all bad but how steeply does population decline and when does it stop? How does it impact economies, politics, who had influence and power. It looks like it could be steep and disruptive, with no prediction on when it will level off.

    However if we start mitigating that, start encouraging people to have children, provide more support for raising children, give more hope to potential parents, working together for a brighter future consistently for the next 50 years perhaps we can manage the decline for least disruption. Perhaps we can find a sustainable population to level off at which is still big enough for today’s rapid advancements

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      On a more positive note the newest IPCC report on climate has population decline being the biggest positive impact on climate change, so keep at it!

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      • C [email protected]

        Capitalism would also charge for every part of the process, raising the price as some techno feudal lord thinks they can find the right balance between extinction pricing and maximum shareholder value.

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        Capitalism would also charges for every part of the process

        FTFY

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          A friend of mine has three kids and works 70 hours a week. He is not able to make enough to support his family, and social services have been cut so much that his only option is to take out a personal loan, which will only make his problem worse.

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          14 hours leaves you barely 2 hours of personal time in a day. That's barely enough to just eat and maybe relax but then if you have 3 kids even that time is gone taking care of them. How and why would anyone put themselves through this, like after the first or second kid wouldn't your own limits become apparent

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            You said ban birth control and porn? Got it.

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            So that's why suddenly there's all this interest in banning porn

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              Growing up, I was of the mindset that I would have got married and started a family by this point in my life. But as of the last few years, my thoughts have done just about a 180.

              Even if I was currently with someone/married, I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t want to raise kids in this day and age in the US (the bullet dodged me when my ex-girlfriend used plan b after we got intimate without protection). I think best case scenario for me now would be DINK, but gotta find someone that can put up with my dumpster fires first.

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              Same dink is my dream but hard to find partners who are into it, or who you like and who like you

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                I'm trying to get pregnant, but it's kinda hard when you're a guy. I won't stop trying, tho. 🫡

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                  14 hours leaves you barely 2 hours of personal time in a day. That's barely enough to just eat and maybe relax but then if you have 3 kids even that time is gone taking care of them. How and why would anyone put themselves through this, like after the first or second kid wouldn't your own limits become apparent

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                  14 hours leaves you barely 2 hours of personal time in a day

                  You've misspelled "commute"

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                    14 hours leaves you barely 2 hours of personal time in a day

                    You've misspelled "commute"

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                    Yeah didn't think about that but that's probably another 2 hours of energy spent on driving, because everything is spread out and there's no good public transportation options outside of specific areas

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                    • kolanaki@pawb.socialK [email protected]

                      I'm trying to get pregnant, but it's kinda hard when you're a guy. I won't stop trying, tho. 🫡

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                      Never give up 💪

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                      • kolanaki@pawb.socialK [email protected]

                        I'm trying to get pregnant, but it's kinda hard when you're a guy. I won't stop trying, tho. 🫡

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                        Auto-insemination?

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                          This raises birth rates

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                          I was born with a penis but Luigi Mangione activated my ovaries

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                            I want biological kids, and I'm right about the point in my life where it would make the most sense to have them. But whenever family asks about it, I tell them I'm not raising children in this kind of administration. They try to suggest that it's not that bad and I stand firm that they're not seeing grandbabies until the government stops being so fashy.

                            Actually, millennials could probably hold our hypothetical babies hostage, see what's more important to them.

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                              I want biological kids, and I'm right about the point in my life where it would make the most sense to have them. But whenever family asks about it, I tell them I'm not raising children in this kind of administration. They try to suggest that it's not that bad and I stand firm that they're not seeing grandbabies until the government stops being so fashy.

                              Actually, millennials could probably hold our hypothetical babies hostage, see what's more important to them.

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                              Women have a biological clock on them, makes no sense waiting for different admin.

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                                I'm trying to get pregnant, but it's kinda hard when you're a guy. I won't stop trying, tho. 🫡

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                                Nothing is impossible.

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                                  Track everything people do and arrest them for unauthorised opinions? Got it.

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                                  The proliferation of unathorized opinions is threatening democracy! Doubleplus ungood.

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                                    A friend of mine has three kids and works 70 hours a week. He is not able to make enough to support his family, and social services have been cut so much that his only option is to take out a personal loan, which will only make his problem worse.

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                                    In the USA? If yes, the US is a sick country in regard to income distribution, labor laws, healthcare and public services. However, if your friend voted MAGA, zero sympathy and he/she can carry on.

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                                      Women have a biological clock on them, makes no sense waiting for different admin.

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                                      Not disagreeing with your point, but women can have children until menopause. It gets riskier and harder but not as much as most people commonly believe. "Biological clock" is a largely made up concept.

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                                      • ininewcrow@lemmy.caI [email protected]

                                        Just find someone with similar dumpster fires, then you'll both burn in the passions of what you love

                                        Also, thanks for mentioning DINK - Double Income No Kids .... never heard of that before and now I learned something new.

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                                        Like yuppies was a play on hippies except it stood for Young Urban Professional

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                                          Want higher birthrates? Just convince people that tomorrow will be better than today.

                                          That's how you see a spike in birth rates.

                                          To maintain a steady birthrate, just convince potential parents that the world will not be any worse for their children than it is today.

                                          See, easy.

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                                          They're taking the opposite approach.

                                          In the past families had a bunch of kids because they needed extra laborers to stay afloat, plus childhood mortality rates were so dire they needed spares to cover for the ones who wouldn't make it.

                                          We're already seeing pushes towards removing child labor laws, and RFK Jr is well on his way to ensuring death from easily preventable diseases makes a comeback.

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