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    Do you mean Subverse? Searching for Subspace is just redirecting me to Subverse, but maybe I'm missing it

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    they do mean subverse!

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      And this isn’t just the lead and the love interest: supporting characters look this way too, and even villains (frequently clad in monstrous makeup) are still played by conventionally attractive performers. Even background extras are good-looking, or at least inoffensively bland. No one is ugly. No one is really fat. Everyone is beautiful.

      Heh, this reminds me of this scene in Last Action Hero (Just watch until 1:34 or so for the scene I'm referring to.

      Honestly though, I think this might be starting to change. Looking at shows like Resident Alien and Wheel of Time, for example, there are plenty of casting choices that go against that trend. Now, I'm not saying anyone in these shows is ugly or anything like that, but there are a lot of folks being cast who are not "classic Hollywood pretty" and it's very nice to see. I like seeing people playing the everyday Joe art who actually looks like an everyday Joe. It really breaks immersion for me when the "ugly girl" part is played by someone who is beautiful dressed in a frumpy outfit.

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      Yeah, usually the stars are classically attractive still, but there's a lot more space for other people in other roles. I think comedy in particular has a lot of stars who aren't incredibly hot.

      However, probably a lot of people who are getting jobs as extras are trying to make their way in the industry. The industry, being dominated by attractive people, attracts attractive people. Ugly people fear they wouldn't succeed, so it creates a selection bias.

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        Karryns prison has a fantastic combat system and the voice actress is "chefs kiss". You can not go wrong with it in my opinion.

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        One of the best rpg maker games out there in general which is wild

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          Karryns prison has a fantastic combat system and the voice actress is "chefs kiss". You can not go wrong with it in my opinion.

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          One of the best rpg maker games out there in general which is wild

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            I've written porn comedy before. No I will not be linking it, but yeah I enjoyed it and the bad porn book club I was in over the pandemic enjoyed it too.

            I think part of the problem is that oftentimes once something erotic has merit beyond the erotic it often loses its porn classification in the public eye. Venus in Furs is porn, the word masochism is a reference to Sacher-Masoch who wrote it the same as sadism is named after the Marquis de Sade, but it's also classic literature.

            I definitely do want to get back into writing porn comedy, but I haven't been pissed off sufficiently stupid porn writing since that book club stopped.

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            once something erotic has merit beyond the erotic it often loses its porn classification in the public eye.

            This definitely poses a problem. Er... depending on what we think a problem is, I guess. But the stuff I'm thinking of, it would be very hard to do this to.

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              You're not alone, James Gunn (yes, that James Gunn) thought the same.

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              Ha, I had no idea these existed. If anyone would, he seems like the type to, though.

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              • apeman42@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                I've never really played any porn games more hardcore than Baldur's Gate 3 before, but you remember a couple weeks ago when GOG gave away those NSFW games, as a direct response to the whole thing?

                Well I claimed the bundle just to boost their numbers (because censorship is bullshit), but recently I needed a low-difficulty gaming distraction, so I checked a few of them out, and... some of them are kind of good?

                Like first off you have to be okay with visual novels (usually), but if you're cool with that, some of them actually have some compelling characters, and occasionally even good gameplay in between all the fucking and whatnot.

                Leap of Love is amusing, kind of adorable when it comes to the not-sex stuff, and charming. It is also a game where you (a former frog) can marry and simultaneously bed 3 princesses and their stepmother after deposing of the evil king. My brain is still trying to reconcile this.

                Huniepop is one of the best match 3 puzzle games I've ever played, with a chill as hell soundtrack. Also a scantily-clad foul-mouthed love fairy wants you to fuck every woman in a 5 mile radius who can fog a mirror.

                And Crom help me, when I finished... sigh... Fetish Locator Week 1, I actually cared enough about some of the characters to buy the next one.

                The point is, some of these games have more depth and value than I'd been led to believe, and I wouldn't have known that if the censorship thing hadn't started that chain of events. So congrats censorship people, and honestly thanks, I guess? Completely the opposite of your intended effect. Task failed successfully.

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                Subverse is really funny in its writing and the renders are high quality as expected of StudioFOW.

                HuniePop's main game loop with the "connect"-style game loop on dates is actually pretty fun to play.

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                  I've never really played any porn games more hardcore than Baldur's Gate 3 before, but you remember a couple weeks ago when GOG gave away those NSFW games, as a direct response to the whole thing?

                  Well I claimed the bundle just to boost their numbers (because censorship is bullshit), but recently I needed a low-difficulty gaming distraction, so I checked a few of them out, and... some of them are kind of good?

                  Like first off you have to be okay with visual novels (usually), but if you're cool with that, some of them actually have some compelling characters, and occasionally even good gameplay in between all the fucking and whatnot.

                  Leap of Love is amusing, kind of adorable when it comes to the not-sex stuff, and charming. It is also a game where you (a former frog) can marry and simultaneously bed 3 princesses and their stepmother after deposing of the evil king. My brain is still trying to reconcile this.

                  Huniepop is one of the best match 3 puzzle games I've ever played, with a chill as hell soundtrack. Also a scantily-clad foul-mouthed love fairy wants you to fuck every woman in a 5 mile radius who can fog a mirror.

                  And Crom help me, when I finished... sigh... Fetish Locator Week 1, I actually cared enough about some of the characters to buy the next one.

                  The point is, some of these games have more depth and value than I'd been led to believe, and I wouldn't have known that if the censorship thing hadn't started that chain of events. So congrats censorship people, and honestly thanks, I guess? Completely the opposite of your intended effect. Task failed successfully.

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                  I've been into nsfw games for a while, but I do genuinely enjoy a lot of them. Corruption of Champions 2 is a great game, with a lot of customization and great characters, though it is apparent that the game isn't finished yet.

                  Tales of Androgyny has some of the highest quality scenes I've encountered in an nsfw game. It's also pretty funny. More games should have a femboy protagonist, is all I'm saying.

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                    Ha, I had no idea these existed. If anyone would, he seems like the type to, though.

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                    It's a sadly forgotten relic of the old internet.

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                      I've been into nsfw games for a while, but I do genuinely enjoy a lot of them. Corruption of Champions 2 is a great game, with a lot of customization and great characters, though it is apparent that the game isn't finished yet.

                      Tales of Androgyny has some of the highest quality scenes I've encountered in an nsfw game. It's also pretty funny. More games should have a femboy protagonist, is all I'm saying.

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                      Oh man, CoC is a name I haven't heard in a loooong long time. I think I have a save file and the original flash version hanging around somewhere.

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                      • apeman42@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                        I've never really played any porn games more hardcore than Baldur's Gate 3 before, but you remember a couple weeks ago when GOG gave away those NSFW games, as a direct response to the whole thing?

                        Well I claimed the bundle just to boost their numbers (because censorship is bullshit), but recently I needed a low-difficulty gaming distraction, so I checked a few of them out, and... some of them are kind of good?

                        Like first off you have to be okay with visual novels (usually), but if you're cool with that, some of them actually have some compelling characters, and occasionally even good gameplay in between all the fucking and whatnot.

                        Leap of Love is amusing, kind of adorable when it comes to the not-sex stuff, and charming. It is also a game where you (a former frog) can marry and simultaneously bed 3 princesses and their stepmother after deposing of the evil king. My brain is still trying to reconcile this.

                        Huniepop is one of the best match 3 puzzle games I've ever played, with a chill as hell soundtrack. Also a scantily-clad foul-mouthed love fairy wants you to fuck every woman in a 5 mile radius who can fog a mirror.

                        And Crom help me, when I finished... sigh... Fetish Locator Week 1, I actually cared enough about some of the characters to buy the next one.

                        The point is, some of these games have more depth and value than I'd been led to believe, and I wouldn't have known that if the censorship thing hadn't started that chain of events. So congrats censorship people, and honestly thanks, I guess? Completely the opposite of your intended effect. Task failed successfully.

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                        Oh man! You've just giving me something that I think will really help stoke the fire in my relationship!

                        I've never really been into sexual roleplay and it's one of the things my partner previously expressed an interest in. We regularly game together either doing co-op or single player since we feel it's more engaging sometimes than zoning out on a movie., so the recommendations like "Leap of Love" sounds like the perfect gaming/drinking night that might kinda dip into the roleplaying aspect!

                        I really wish I claimed it when I saw it, just a few clicks and I'm kicking myself for it now. Are there any others you or anyone else would recommend that are more fantasy roleplay focused and might be good for two people?

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                          once something erotic has merit beyond the erotic it often loses its porn classification in the public eye.

                          This definitely poses a problem. Er... depending on what we think a problem is, I guess. But the stuff I'm thinking of, it would be very hard to do this to.

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                          Maybe but like Story of O is on the verge (apologies as these are all going to be bdsm) by nature of it being old and remembered. The 120 Days of Sodom is likely mostly read by people not into it in a sexual way (mind you I think it's mostly read by the edgy). 50 Shades of Grey is atrociously written and yet despite being a story existing to package soft core pornography that's the dissenting opinion on it, not the mainstream consensus. Sunstone meanwhile is the inverse, soft core pornography to entice and enhance a story about bdsm. All of these except Sodom are edge cases where some people might be uncomfortable regardless of which box you put it in

                          Though I'll acknowledge it does get harder for much more explicit stuff with less non-sex content.

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                            It's because both sides were always divided on sex. The "beer, titties, and jesus" crowd and the anti porn feminists had been the lesser voices of their side for a while. But in the fallout of the sexual revolution, in the 70s and 80s second wave feminism developed a really anti sex stance, especially towards deviant types of sex. This was the feminist sex wars, and its the era of a lot of the more batshit bits. But it did begin with reasonable criticism. There was fighting back however, from lesbian feminist sadomasochism groups like Samois to owned porn cooperatives where radical ideas wete tried like having the entire crew be naked so the performers weren't the only ones exposed.

                            People like to blame third wave feminism for the swing back, and I disagree. The third wave was the movement born of the critiques of the second wave, and the renewed push for sexual liberation in the 90s ans 00s was quintessentially third wave. And it got far, it did a lot, and it also left us with a lot to criticize. Whether it's media criticism like Sarkeesian was harassed for daring to do, or it's the unfortunately common stories of women being pressured into sex acts they don't want with feminist language critiques had been mounting in the early 10s.

                            The theoretical fourth wave is often called twitter feminism, and i think it's best to consider that the first real thing it did that impacted anything was the metoo movement. I believe metoo was a good thing. It's next to the Arab spring as among the few things Twitter ever did that are good. But it and the late third wave criticisms gave room for the sex negative side to return to prominence. That's where we are now, but I dont think it will last.

                            Because I think we need to remember that while there is an internal back and forth, there's also the realpolitik of the fact that you can pull horny people if nobody else does. A chunk of gamergate is straight up that. Shining feminist media critiques through the worst possible lens to horny boys and men. Anyways the right has dropped their horny-prude coalition recently and is all in on prude, which is coinciding with chunks of the left getting tired of the dominant position of our prudes.

                            Anyways free the nipple, and what 20 consenting adults do behind closed doors is their right to do.

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                            Since you seem knowledgeable, maybe I'll bug you about something I've wondered about?

                            Did you notice a significant (huge by my measure) increase in attempts at polyamory for a period of time? As in, that trend seemed to have almost a start and an end, and a real big swell in the middle. And if so, any comments on how that fits into your timeline overview above? Some of your thoughts sound like they may point to this but I certainly don't want to put words in your mouth.

                            Anecdotally, it seems to me like I watched a huge chunk of my (significantly) younger sister's generation get themselves into plural relationships, then realize after a year or two of various attempts (often including some serious abuse) that actually they didn't like that idea at all.

                            And don't get me wrong, I absolutely encourage people to try what they are curious about, it's a tragedy to spend a life never exploring what one might like. But that phenomena with polyamory / plural relationships in particular stuck out to me, largely because many of the people I saw try it had never previously indicated even remote interest in similar, some behaved fairly jealously toward their partners actually. It felt like a strange societal motivation, some kind of soft cultural pressure among peers, to go for it. And I personally never witnessed a positive outcome, either (which is not me saying that no one should live that way if they enjoy it, or that no one can find it genuinely fulfilling, healthy, and preferable). And for those with clear gender lines in the plural relationships, it was always polygynous - never polyandrous (please let me know if those terms are offensive). Felt like weaponized sexual liberation, frankly, by horny dudes, but that's me making some possibly unfair leaps and introducing my own bias into the interpretation.

                            I guess more than anything else I was just struck by what felt like a wave in popularity, followed by an accompanying wave of "oh, nah fuck that actually, forever". Was interesting to watch. Any thoughts?

                            (Disclaimer: this can be a thorny topic, anyone should feel free to correct anything I've misrepresented, misunderstood, or just been unkind about, I'm not a jerk on purpose usually).

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                              I've never really played any porn games more hardcore than Baldur's Gate 3 before, but you remember a couple weeks ago when GOG gave away those NSFW games, as a direct response to the whole thing?

                              Well I claimed the bundle just to boost their numbers (because censorship is bullshit), but recently I needed a low-difficulty gaming distraction, so I checked a few of them out, and... some of them are kind of good?

                              Like first off you have to be okay with visual novels (usually), but if you're cool with that, some of them actually have some compelling characters, and occasionally even good gameplay in between all the fucking and whatnot.

                              Leap of Love is amusing, kind of adorable when it comes to the not-sex stuff, and charming. It is also a game where you (a former frog) can marry and simultaneously bed 3 princesses and their stepmother after deposing of the evil king. My brain is still trying to reconcile this.

                              Huniepop is one of the best match 3 puzzle games I've ever played, with a chill as hell soundtrack. Also a scantily-clad foul-mouthed love fairy wants you to fuck every woman in a 5 mile radius who can fog a mirror.

                              And Crom help me, when I finished... sigh... Fetish Locator Week 1, I actually cared enough about some of the characters to buy the next one.

                              The point is, some of these games have more depth and value than I'd been led to believe, and I wouldn't have known that if the censorship thing hadn't started that chain of events. So congrats censorship people, and honestly thanks, I guess? Completely the opposite of your intended effect. Task failed successfully.

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                              "Some hentai games are very good." -Edward Snowden, referring to Lovers

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                                I've been into nsfw games for a while, but I do genuinely enjoy a lot of them. Corruption of Champions 2 is a great game, with a lot of customization and great characters, though it is apparent that the game isn't finished yet.

                                Tales of Androgyny has some of the highest quality scenes I've encountered in an nsfw game. It's also pretty funny. More games should have a femboy protagonist, is all I'm saying.

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                                He's the main love interest, not the protag, but have you seen Haunted by Femboy? A little on the silly side, but I enjoyed the demo.

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                                  I've never really played any porn games more hardcore than Baldur's Gate 3 before, but you remember a couple weeks ago when GOG gave away those NSFW games, as a direct response to the whole thing?

                                  Well I claimed the bundle just to boost their numbers (because censorship is bullshit), but recently I needed a low-difficulty gaming distraction, so I checked a few of them out, and... some of them are kind of good?

                                  Like first off you have to be okay with visual novels (usually), but if you're cool with that, some of them actually have some compelling characters, and occasionally even good gameplay in between all the fucking and whatnot.

                                  Leap of Love is amusing, kind of adorable when it comes to the not-sex stuff, and charming. It is also a game where you (a former frog) can marry and simultaneously bed 3 princesses and their stepmother after deposing of the evil king. My brain is still trying to reconcile this.

                                  Huniepop is one of the best match 3 puzzle games I've ever played, with a chill as hell soundtrack. Also a scantily-clad foul-mouthed love fairy wants you to fuck every woman in a 5 mile radius who can fog a mirror.

                                  And Crom help me, when I finished... sigh... Fetish Locator Week 1, I actually cared enough about some of the characters to buy the next one.

                                  The point is, some of these games have more depth and value than I'd been led to believe, and I wouldn't have known that if the censorship thing hadn't started that chain of events. So congrats censorship people, and honestly thanks, I guess? Completely the opposite of your intended effect. Task failed successfully.

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                                  On the m/m side, the visual novel Coming Out on Top is a remarkably well-written, if saccharine, dating game about a college guy figuring things out. I don't usually like VNs but this one was worth playing. It's has a lot of gay sex in it, that is literally the entire point so, you know, be aware of that.

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                                    Since you seem knowledgeable, maybe I'll bug you about something I've wondered about?

                                    Did you notice a significant (huge by my measure) increase in attempts at polyamory for a period of time? As in, that trend seemed to have almost a start and an end, and a real big swell in the middle. And if so, any comments on how that fits into your timeline overview above? Some of your thoughts sound like they may point to this but I certainly don't want to put words in your mouth.

                                    Anecdotally, it seems to me like I watched a huge chunk of my (significantly) younger sister's generation get themselves into plural relationships, then realize after a year or two of various attempts (often including some serious abuse) that actually they didn't like that idea at all.

                                    And don't get me wrong, I absolutely encourage people to try what they are curious about, it's a tragedy to spend a life never exploring what one might like. But that phenomena with polyamory / plural relationships in particular stuck out to me, largely because many of the people I saw try it had never previously indicated even remote interest in similar, some behaved fairly jealously toward their partners actually. It felt like a strange societal motivation, some kind of soft cultural pressure among peers, to go for it. And I personally never witnessed a positive outcome, either (which is not me saying that no one should live that way if they enjoy it, or that no one can find it genuinely fulfilling, healthy, and preferable). And for those with clear gender lines in the plural relationships, it was always polygynous - never polyandrous (please let me know if those terms are offensive). Felt like weaponized sexual liberation, frankly, by horny dudes, but that's me making some possibly unfair leaps and introducing my own bias into the interpretation.

                                    I guess more than anything else I was just struck by what felt like a wave in popularity, followed by an accompanying wave of "oh, nah fuck that actually, forever". Was interesting to watch. Any thoughts?

                                    (Disclaimer: this can be a thorny topic, anyone should feel free to correct anything I've misrepresented, misunderstood, or just been unkind about, I'm not a jerk on purpose usually).

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                                    Kinda, I'm actually polyamorous myself and most of my social circle still is. But I've heard of what you described. In my circles it's been a lot more women lead and queer though. I think a lot of people jumped in without breaking their mental monogamy as well. Polyamory can be difficult, and for a lot of people especially those who jump in without thinking or who began their relationship monogamous it can be a spectacular shitshow, much like many relationships where incompatible desires are present or where people go in without knowing how to do it well.

                                    I once had a relationship that I think a lot of my ex's friends probably see as exactly like you described. We began monogamous, it was my first relationship and it was in the mid 10s, and within a year I realized monogamy wasn't for me. So we opened up, then did full poly, got engaged, and she realized she couldn't do poly. She pressured me into monogamy (I had been willing to call it quits) and I hated it. It was an ugly breakup that she likely blames on me pressuring her into polyamory. Funny enough a few months after the breakup when I wasn't looking for anything serious I met someone else who'd recently had a breakup over wanting to stay poly, and we're happily married with a clear mutual understanding that neither of us is open to closing the relationship.

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                                      On the m/m side, the visual novel Coming Out on Top is a remarkably well-written, if saccharine, dating game about a college guy figuring things out. I don't usually like VNs but this one was worth playing. It's has a lot of gay sex in it, that is literally the entire point so, you know, be aware of that.

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                                      Nice. I don't typically go for M/M unless femboys are involved, but it's what my wife likes, and that's one of the ones I linked her when she asked me to research a few games for her to try.

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                                        Some of these games have incredible writing. Personally, I'd recommend trying Eternum. It's not finished yet but there's already a ton of content and the writing is incredible. Another game by the same person called Once in a Lifetime is also really good but shorter.

                                        Besides those two, I'd really recommend The Princess Trap. Also unfinished but still lots of content. This one is definitely a bit more niche and might not be for everyone but the drama and mystery in it is really incredible.

                                        All of these games are pretty slow to get to the sex stuff to be honest (especially The Princess Trap). But every moment in-between makes it so worth your time.

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                                        I just finished what exists so far for The Princess Trap last night. I have to recommend holding off on it till it’s finished so you don’t end up in as much despair as me.

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                                          Nice. I don't typically go for M/M unless femboys are involved, but it's what my wife likes, and that's one of the ones I linked her when she asked me to research a few games for her to try.

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                                          Femboys can be hot too, though often authors seem to mix up femboys with trans women and that ends up being frustrating when I try a CHOYA game marked as m/m and it doesn't have any actual m/m in it.

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