Where is Immich going to be in 1 year? What's your prediction?
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I'm just learning about the software but all the tasks you listed (crop, rotate and adjust), can be done easily with imagemagick simple one-liners.
For example:
Convert in.jpg -rotate out.jpgOr
Using the auto-orient option or using jhead.
Why is it so hard for this app to implement it?
wrote last edited by [email protected]I know nothing about coding, but its probably not trivial in a project the size of immich to add "one simple one-liner".
Think of the Web UI, the mobile apps, the internal API, the filesystem handling, preview generation etc.
I'm sure it can be done, but it probably takes a couple of days.
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That would be an insane amount of phone storage. I don't think a single available smart phone could sync an entire professional library of photos. Especially considering how large each photo is.
Could use folders per project. Come on.. you're still commenting on this ?
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This issue closed as fixed but not fixed for me: https://github.com/immich-app/immich/issues/8216
That sounds like a very different thing though? Or you're saying you have two issues?
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I was one of the first Immich core developers but had to leave a year ago due to a change in my job situation.
Just wanted to say that the team (especially Alex, the founder) are wonderful people and very dedicated to the project. When they don’t implement the features everyone wants, there is usually a very good reason, like security or architectural concerns.
The philosophy behind the project is also to do things slowly but right.I believe they continue focussing on robusness and bugfixing. A topic that we discussed a lot was e2e encryption. We really wanted to implement that, but it was very hard and back then would have compromised performance too much. I still think that e2e encryption will come at some point.
It'll be good if it can be decrypted by the device itself. Almost perfect security tbh
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Just an idea: Maybe a simple photo editor would fit in nicely? Crop, rotate and adjust the colors/brightness/contrast.
And ... please let me rotate videos that are accidentally 90 degrees off.
Does it not already have basic image editing? I can crop/rotate and apply some preset filters.
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Does it not already have basic image editing? I can crop/rotate and apply some preset filters.
I disagree.
Yes, there is some editing capability in the app, but it doesn't edit the image, it stores a new file in your local (non-immich) gallery. As I don't sync this particular folder on my phone, I had to reupload it - and now have this image twice in immich, and one version with the wrong timestamp (now).
That's barely any more helpful than downloading the image and editing it with another app.
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That sounds like a very different thing though? Or you're saying you have two issues?
Yes, it seems that I copy/pasted a wrong link.
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I was one of the first Immich core developers but had to leave a year ago due to a change in my job situation.
Just wanted to say that the team (especially Alex, the founder) are wonderful people and very dedicated to the project. When they don’t implement the features everyone wants, there is usually a very good reason, like security or architectural concerns.
The philosophy behind the project is also to do things slowly but right.I believe they continue focussing on robusness and bugfixing. A topic that we discussed a lot was e2e encryption. We really wanted to implement that, but it was very hard and back then would have compromised performance too much. I still think that e2e encryption will come at some point.
Very cool post. I didn’t mean to denigrate the dev team at all. They’ve done incredible work, and I’ve read some of the threads about rotation. They’re definitely aware of the issue, and they want to make sure it’s done right, which I appreciate. Also, it’s FOSS, so I don’t want to be negative about the outlook when its users already get so much more than they pay for!
Still, it’s such a thorn in my side!
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A more sophisticated query system would be interesting.
For example if I want to see every picture with Joseph in it, that's really easy. But what if I'd like to share those with Joseph along with the albums he's in?
Similar to that would be a query by location and person. Or a query that includes two people.
I believe Piwigo had the first feature you mention. Actually, there are quite a few things from Piwigo I’d love to see implemented in Immich. One that was pretty unique was designating an image as the back of another one, for scanned files. Niche, but really useful in those cases.
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I disagree.
Yes, there is some editing capability in the app, but it doesn't edit the image, it stores a new file in your local (non-immich) gallery. As I don't sync this particular folder on my phone, I had to reupload it - and now have this image twice in immich, and one version with the wrong timestamp (now).
That's barely any more helpful than downloading the image and editing it with another app.
I think this highlights the difficulty with “basic” image editing. For example, with G Photos or Mac Photos, or others, you can edit, and the edited version is what you’ll see by default going forward, but the original is still there. This is why I highlighted rotation. That’s strictly a metadata change, AFAIK. Last thing I read on their site was they were hung up getting it to work properly with HEIF.
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Forgive me if I'm being dumb... But is there a way to share a photo with my own editor, then save the result as an "edited" version of that asset? Currently if I send it to Snapseed, and save it, it will be placed in a different random folder
I don’t think so. I think for any kind of editing, they’d need to implement some kind of asset versioning.
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In my mobile app, I can select a photo > edit > crop, and get rotate options there. Does that do what you're looking for? I can't confirm right now since I'm not home and haven't exposed it beyond my home network yet, and haven't tried it from the web interface. I agree though, as I continue to use it, rotating will be a common use case and I'd hope it handles it gracefully.
Yes you can do all of that, but it’s saved as a separate asset that is not related in any way to the original. That’s the issue. Also, it would be nice to be able to do these things in the web app as well.
As for syncing, if all your phones are logged into Immich as the same user, you wouldn’t have any issues syncing photos. I don’t thing Immich currently allows sharing assets between users. That can be troublesome for family albums.
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I've never used it, but one should also ask a
what kind of 90 degree rotation does it do. Good image editors can do lossless 90 degree JPEG rotation, meaning they don't compound the JPEG lossiness and potential artifacts every time.AFAIK, it actually doesn’t require modification of the original file at all. It can be done with a metadata change in a sidecar file.
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Copying this from Reddit (I still get the daily emails)
You know you can just delete the email address from your reddit account, right? I don't know why you'd want to willingly tie reddit to your email in the first place.
wrote last edited by [email protected]It’s a throwaway address I use for online vendors. Most of those get an addy.io address nowadays, but Reddit still goes to the original address.
TL;DR: I’m aware, thanks.
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I was one of the first Immich core developers but had to leave a year ago due to a change in my job situation.
Just wanted to say that the team (especially Alex, the founder) are wonderful people and very dedicated to the project. When they don’t implement the features everyone wants, there is usually a very good reason, like security or architectural concerns.
The philosophy behind the project is also to do things slowly but right.I believe they continue focussing on robusness and bugfixing. A topic that we discussed a lot was e2e encryption. We really wanted to implement that, but it was very hard and back then would have compromised performance too much. I still think that e2e encryption will come at some point.
Man, I sure hope they're free of the container crutch.
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I know nothing about coding, but its probably not trivial in a project the size of immich to add "one simple one-liner".
Think of the Web UI, the mobile apps, the internal API, the filesystem handling, preview generation etc.
I'm sure it can be done, but it probably takes a couple of days.
Also ImageTragick was a thing, there are definitely security implications to adding dependencies to implement a feature in this way (especially on a shared instance). The API at the very least needs to handle auth, so that your images and videos don't get rotated by others.
Then you have UX, you may want to show to the user that things have rotated (otherwise button will be deemed non-functional, even if it uses this one-liner behind the scenes), but probably don't want to transfer the entire video multiple times to show this (too slow, costs data).
Yeah, it is one thing to add a one liner, but another to make a well implemented feature.
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Man, I sure hope they're free of the container crutch.
What do you mean by container crutch?
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Why not? They absolutely should be using something like Backblaze. In fact someone who has digital photos as their business would be dumb not to use cloud storage.
wrote last edited by [email protected]You're not uploading to Backblaze as you shoot photos. You're dumping the SD cards, or saving RAW files directly, onto a fileserver or computer of some sort.
Nobody in their right mind would use Immich or GPhotos for that kind of thing, which is what this chain was about. Backblaze is a completely different scenario, for backing up data after the fact.
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Could use folders per project. Come on.. you're still commenting on this ?
Man, you're the one who came in and said Immich could be used by professional photographers. Don't make dumbshit statements and then get pissy when others explain how you're wrong.
