A Deal You Cannot Refuse
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are you alive?
Believe me, I am still alive
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Sell weed.
If I was going to commit crimes why would I go to grad school?
Might as well not even get the debt
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That's why I'm a socialist
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If I was going to commit crimes why would I go to grad school?
Might as well not even get the debt
Hey I hear ya. That's how I did it, personally.
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That's why I'm a socialist
But not that socialist
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I deserved that, and amazing meme
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I love that this goofy-looking kid is now the (other) heartthrob from The Bear.
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In the ancestral environment we would still work all day to survive, and we wouldn't have medicine or YouTube for it either. There could obviously be a more equitable system today, and the end goal is that humans don't have to work any more, but it's disingenuous to imply that the capitalist division of labour model is an alternative to not working and still getting stuff.
Good, we are in agreement. No one is implying that work is unnecessary. Labor has existed for as long as we have -- much longer than capitalism. To equate this sentiment with the original post appears disingenuous.
Capitalism is exploitative by necessity. The rise of machines during the industrial revolution divorced the worker from the fruits of their labor and from the tools with which to produce them. Now we, the workers, are dependent on the owners for wages to sustain the material conditions of our existence. Much like how the manorial system forced the feudal serf to cultivate the land, today's workers are institutionally coerced: we sell ourselves by the year or by the hour. Meanwhile, the owners reap the vast profits watered by the sweat of labor while seeking to reduce the price of labor down to whatever minuscule sum allows us to continue working. There is, indeed, a more equitable system available.
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In the ancestral environment we would still work all day to survive, and we wouldn't have medicine or YouTube for it either. There could obviously be a more equitable system today, and the end goal is that humans don't have to work any more, but it's disingenuous to imply that the capitalist division of labour model is an alternative to not working and still getting stuff.
Yeah, it used to be sunup to sundown, 6 days a week. And the seventh was hardly a day of rest. And, there was no retirement at 65. There was working until you died, or at least working until you were very feeble and hoping that your children would take care of you in your old age (which just added to the work they had to do). Work also wasn't this thing that you had to start doing after university. It was this thing you started going before you hit puberty. You'd be feeding the animals, or helping mend the clothing as a child, and that work would continue for your entire life.
And, even if things were distributed more equitably, work would still be necessary. In fact, if things were distributed more equitably, it wouldn't be illegal immigrants or immigrants on short-term visas doing a lot of the agricultural work, it would be the kinds of people who complain about their 9-5 jobs.
The sad fact is that getting enough variety on your plate, a comfortable roof over your head, and entertainment in your eyes requires a lot of work from a lot of people. It would be really nice if we lived in a post-scarcity world with replicators to provide any food anybody desired, and robots to repair everything that broke. But, we're not there yet. Spending all day working 5 days a week feels rough, and maybe if things were more fairly distributed we'd only be working 3 days a week. But, until we invent the replicator, we're still going to need farms, and farms will need farm workers, and farm workers will need mattresses and roofs and vehicles, and those vehicles will require tires, and those tires will need to be tested for safety, and those safety testers will need computers, and those computers will need programmers, and those programmers will need caffeine...
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But not that socialist
The Socialist
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Yeah, it used to be sunup to sundown, 6 days a week. And the seventh was hardly a day of rest. And, there was no retirement at 65. There was working until you died, or at least working until you were very feeble and hoping that your children would take care of you in your old age (which just added to the work they had to do). Work also wasn't this thing that you had to start doing after university. It was this thing you started going before you hit puberty. You'd be feeding the animals, or helping mend the clothing as a child, and that work would continue for your entire life.
And, even if things were distributed more equitably, work would still be necessary. In fact, if things were distributed more equitably, it wouldn't be illegal immigrants or immigrants on short-term visas doing a lot of the agricultural work, it would be the kinds of people who complain about their 9-5 jobs.
The sad fact is that getting enough variety on your plate, a comfortable roof over your head, and entertainment in your eyes requires a lot of work from a lot of people. It would be really nice if we lived in a post-scarcity world with replicators to provide any food anybody desired, and robots to repair everything that broke. But, we're not there yet. Spending all day working 5 days a week feels rough, and maybe if things were more fairly distributed we'd only be working 3 days a week. But, until we invent the replicator, we're still going to need farms, and farms will need farm workers, and farm workers will need mattresses and roofs and vehicles, and those vehicles will require tires, and those tires will need to be tested for safety, and those safety testers will need computers, and those computers will need programmers, and those programmers will need caffeine...
wrote last edited by [email protected]Of course we have to work. We still need food, water, shelter, etc., and machines will not fulfill these needs on their own (at least not yet). However, given the recent increases in productivity and corporate wealth, do you believe it is necessary for us to work as much as we do in order to fulfill everyone's needs?
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I love that this goofy-looking kid is now the (other) heartthrob from The Bear.
Wait, who is this kid? I have clearly missed some things
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Of course we have to work. We still need food, water, shelter, etc., and machines will not fulfill these needs on their own (at least not yet). However, given the recent increases in productivity and corporate wealth, do you believe it is necessary for us to work as much as we do in order to fulfill everyone's needs?
Not quite as much, but not enough to make a major difference.
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Wait, who is this kid? I have clearly missed some things
wrote last edited by [email protected]In "We're the Millers", the source of this image (from 2013) he was a goofy-looking kid.
Now, on The Bear he's Hot Chef Luca.
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This post was probably posted by an a US or Europe person doing more than 2k usd a month.
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This post was probably posted by an a US or Europe person doing more than 2k usd a month.
When your rent is almost a thousand, then it dries up fast.
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In "We're the Millers", the source of this image (from 2013) he was a goofy-looking kid.
Now, on The Bear he's Hot Chef Luca.
Oh wow, TIL, thanks! So crazy
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When your rent is almost a thousand, then it dries up fast.
Only $1000? Most basic falling apart apartments are almost $2k in many states from what I've seen
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Only $1000? Most basic falling apart apartments are almost $2k in many states from what I've seen
If you live in a fly over state like me it’s on average like 700
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The secret to reclaiming your life is the the 8 hours that've been stored away and you're that you'rw missing out on.
snorts caffine
